Macs: PowerPC or Intel

[Jonathan]

Thanks for the link, would this one also work: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250495323378&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123

Just it's cheaper and as the auction is ended with seemingly no buyer I can get it faster than 3 days.

[callagrafx]

Yep, should be fine 

[Jonathan]

Didn't manage to get that item, so if anyone knows where to buy the OS at a fairly reasonable price (given that it is not the latest Mac OS) that will work on a G4 ibook?

I desperately need to upgrade it, maybe if anyone has a copy I'd willing to pay for it.

[callagrafx]

You could watch this one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Apple-MacOS-X-10-5-Leopard-Retail-Box-mint_W0QQitemZ300348197302QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_Software_Software_SR?hash=item45ee25c9b6&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

All my OS disks are for Macbook Pros and Powerbooks...

[Jonathan]

Thanks,
I'll keep an eye on it

Btw, another question, still Apple related, my friends iPhone screen got smashed while in his pocket playing football. Would that be covered by the standard warranty, and is there consumer laws (?) that if it isn't could get him a new one without paying hundreds of pounds.

Jonathan

[callagrafx]

Depends on whether his contract has an insurance policy (I pay an extra £5 per month for this). If it's a PAYG, then it's doubtful he could get a replacement free of charge.  His best bet is to claim for it on house contents insurance, as long as it covers accidental damage outside of the house.  It certainly won't be covered by Apple's warranty, which only covers for item failures, as outlined in the Sale of Goods Act.

btw, I've found a 1GB PC2700 DDR chip that should work in your ibook, so I'll send it to the address you gave me 

[Jonathan]

Thanks,that's great!

I just hope it isn't too hard to install.

I just lost out at that Mac OS so off to find another one, and found this;
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mac-OS-X-10-5-Leopard-Full-UK-Retail-Single-License_W0QQitemZ160362942410QQcategoryZ80258QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSI%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%252BFICS%26otn%3D10%26ps%3D63

If it says retail then that means it can be installed on any mac/laptop? Only discs that come with Macs can't be used on any mac?

[Andreas]

"Retail" is the common term for hard- or software that you can buy as a box in a shop, so you should be able to install it on any Mac.

[Jonathan]

I just realised my cousin has a Mac, which most likely has Leopard on it. If she has the disc, would I be able to install (upgrade)my mac laptop with it? Or would it be illegal?

[WC_EEND]

I think it would be possible (I did something similar with Windows XP) but I don't know about how legal it is

[callagrafx]

What Mac does she have? Any OS X shipped with a machine is locked to the machine range (as I mentioned before).....

Will post the RAM on Monday....Fitting on the Powerbook is a doddle.  Under the machine is a plate held on with 4 very small screws...under there is the RAM expansion slot. 

[Jonathan]

She has some sort of desktop, I guess theres no way to unlock it and if there was it would be illegal?

I have an iBook G4, so did you just type it wrong? I'd hate to find you went to all the trouble of posting the RAM for the wrong machine

Jonathan

[callagrafx]

Is it white, not silver?  If so, watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3406L3yL0

The RAM itself should be compatible, according to the Apple specs.  You will need to remove the 256MB chip in the expansion slot to give you a maximum of 1280MB.

[Jonathan]

Thanks for the vid, it is the same one as in the video. It seems quite simple.

I bought a Mac OS X Leopard, so hopefully I'll be able to use the Mac better this week.


Thanks very much for all your help!!

[callagrafx]

No worries...and despite the lack of an Intel chip and only being 1.2Ghz, you should enjoy using the Mac.  What will you be using it for, if you don't mind me asking?

[Jonathan]

Well 3 reasons, 1) I've always used Windows, so was just plain curious 2) half needed/wanted a laptop 3) and more than that wanted to take a look at iphone apps(I realise about the whole official only-on-Intel thing, but as I understand it you can use the SDK on a PowerPC)

But there are some differences(like maximising, isn't actually maximising. and that FireFox doesn't really maximise properly on some websites) that will take some getting used to (though after spending a whole day on the Mac and the going back to PC I keep pressing Ctrl+Left click instead of just right clicking )

[callagrafx]

Little hint... OS X will use a 3 button mouse in the same way as a PC does (left/right click plus scroll wheel) and they are dirt cheap these days   And working with both is a bit of a pain with the keyboard shortcuts.

[Jonathan]

Thanks Lee, the RAM arrived today and I installed it, the machine is now much better, though I notice that once turning on and seeing how much RAM was installed, it says 1.25GB, even though the stick was 1GB?

Turning on was much faster as is loading programs! So thanks loads!!

Jonathan

[callagrafx]

There is 256MB RAM onboard....the slot is for expansion.  256MB plus the 1GB gives you the 1.2GB system RAM.  The good thing about Apple is that the GPU RAM is not part of the system allocation so apps have full access to the installed RAM..that and the fact that the OS is Unix based and not overly bloated.  It's a pity you couldn't stretch to an Intel machine, as Snow Leopard is something else....3GB less disk space and so much faster than previous OSes.

Welcome to the Brotherhood 

[Jonathan]

Yep I wish I could of got an Intel machine, I was looking at them but they all went for ~£200 more than PowerPCs did.

Hopefully i'll enjoy being part of it!

Jonathan