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Offline noahclem

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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2018, 05:43:18 AM »
What I great surprise! This is something that's been on my wish list for many years. Can't believe you kept this under your hat for so long :D  Thanks a lot man!!

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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2018, 07:27:47 PM »
Hi Alex!

Is this behaviour normal on your street texture replacement mod? (see picture below) On medium and high density zoning it's turning back to maxis default street at the intersections.
I have installed the NAM v36 (with the NWM MRCs, since I'm working on these paths), but I emptied everything else. In the install dir plugin folder contains the simmaster patch dll and the extra cheat dll, but apart from these nothing else.

I thought it's interfering with some other mod from Rivit or MGB or others (because I got strange turning back behaviour with street roundabouts, but I'm using some overrite mod for that, so that could cause troubles), but I don't have a clue what's the problem with it and an empty plugin folder.

Thanks in advance!

- Tyberius (Tibi)

PS: I've installed it with the RHD/Euro-International/RRW option.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2018, 07:34:23 PM by Tyberius06 »
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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2018, 08:05:48 PM »
Looks like the NAM optional textures are overriding the mod. Did you try to load it after the z_NAM folder?

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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2018, 08:17:58 PM »
Its default folder structure is supposed to load after the NAM folders but I have the same result with five underscore (z____).
Also I don't have any wealth texture by agricultural zones, but that's not a problem.
Anyway it's more or less a clean NAM install what I used here.
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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2018, 10:20:21 PM »
The original North American version of the NAM Retexture and Cosmetic Mod by superhands did include additional mid/high-density wealth textures that looked exactly like that, for the Street x Street OxO + and T-intersections.  They weren't particularly popular, and we had quite a few requests to remove them, and eventually did at some point after the R&C Mod was brought into the Monolithic NAM.  It does appear, however, that the Euro version that MandelSoft did also included those same mid/high-density textures, and those escaped removal.

The Default Asphalt mod did not include the texture IIDs for the mid/high-density textures, so these weren't covered up, allowing the retextured Maxis Streets to show through.  In the process, I found that this also needed to be done with the RRW crossings. 

Fortunately, it was a pretty quick fix, and I have updated the mod to Version 1.1 on the LEX as of just now.  Simply install the new version right over top of your existing installation--it will overwrite the old files automatically.

Thanks for spotting that, Tibi! :thumbsup:

-Alex

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« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2018, 09:08:24 AM »
Thanks Alex!

It's working now, but I encountered an other odd thing, which I don't understand about street roundabouts. But as I see the default NAM street (2ns pic) has the same strange behavour. See the below attached pictures. In with certain set-ups the whole street roundabout geometry is changing. I don't know if it's a new or an old leftover NAM feature or what is that, but it's only working as it is on the picture. If I want to draw any other side streets from the roundabout it falls appart. The Rivit TSR streets doesn't have this behaviour, I guess it's due to the texture replacement of some kind.

Also I was wondering if there would be a chance to get a copy from your street mod texture repository, because I would like to make a version which doesn't have any grass, if it's possible. It's basicly an NGN (No Grass NAM - MGB's mod) version of your street. MGB already made the NGN mod which covers the default maxis street and made an additional experimental "NGN-type" repository which works with Rivit's TSR Streets repository, so I could make my No Grass TSR streets. And that would be the plan for your street mod too.

Edit: well I got the information that it's not that easy, but the plan is still a No Grass TRK asphalt override...

Thanks in advance!

- Tyberius/Tibi
« Last Edit: November 20, 2018, 09:33:57 AM by Tyberius06 »
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« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2018, 04:40:53 PM »
Pictures 1 & 2 show a special roundabout "End Piece", which only appears when drawing one from a cross-intersection. This is intended NAM behaviour, actually I've some work on supporting this for all SAM sets.

Picture 3 is simply an unsupported RUL setup, street roundabouts were not designed to be placed together like this. However the road ones can have multiple roundabouts strung together.

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« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2018, 10:24:34 PM »
Glad to see it worked, Tibi--and to follow up on the NGN question, here is a link to the source files.  I did indeed try to follow the original NAM behavior, and modeled my textures with the roundabouts to be like the NAM defaults.

And now for something completely different . . .



What's the saying . . . "cactus makes perfect"? ;D

In any case, I had been on the search for a proper "tree" controller to handle more Arizona-type desert flora, and as it turns out, there isn't one.  c.p. did make a bunch of models in his Mega Props Vol 02, and while both he and tfinvold over at ST did make MMP brushes that cycle through a selection, a God Mode Brush does not exist, nor do MMP brushes for single types of desert flora (i.e. being able to plant saguaros one by one). 

So, I've started diving into this whole other area of modding . . . my God Mode Brush isn't quite working well enough (still need to get the hang of FloraPreferences--only the sagebrush wants to get planted right now), though my individual MMPs, as seen above, are working well.  They're also semi-seasonal where applicable (much like CP's multi-flora brush).

-Alex

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« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2018, 01:49:22 AM »
Ohh, that looks very promising! :) I discovered Cycledogg's cactus and Joshua tree props long ago, and always thought "I'd have to use the Arizona terrain mod once", making a huge region with a map of the Arches National Park, but then I found out that there wasn't any flora mod that would suit such a desert area - and using MMPs would have taken ages to fill the map... I'm not very familiar with this type of desert flora, but I hope you get the hang of the flora properties (I always struggled with those myself) for a nice-looking result. :thumbsup:

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« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2018, 02:58:36 AM »
Thanks, Andreas--knowing there's others out there who are also interested in this definitely gives me additional motivation, beyond that already provided by my recently acquired cactus enthusiasm. :thumbsup:  I'm probably going to make an alternate version that swaps the saguaros out for Joshua trees, for more of a Mojave look--though technically, there is a small swath in Arizona along US Highway 93 where the Sonoran and Mojave ecosystems elide for just a bit, and both co-exist. 

I've attempted to adjust the FloraPreferences a bit more, trying the ChrisAdams3997 trick of setting all 256 values to 1 for all the flora in the controller.  Allegedly, that's supposed to make everything fight for space, but the result I'm getting is nothing but organ pipe cacti--which happens to occupy the last two in IID order for my controller (the two organ pipe cacti models are set up as a cluster).  If there's anyone out there with tree controller experience, I'd love to get some tips as to where I might be going wrong, and in the meanwhile, I'll continue to experiment with it.

-Alex

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« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2018, 11:07:51 AM »
Alas, my knowledge is very limited as well; I once made a custom tree controller with Cycledogg's first pack of tree props, which provides such a "wild" mix. But even knowing that the 256 values represent different levels of height and different levels of moisture, I realized that I couldn't properly imagine which REP of that property does what. ;)

I ended up creating a matrix of random numbers in Excel, with values ranging from 0 to 1, and all kinds of fractions in between, and to my surprise, the result didn't look that bad. Maybe I still have the source files buried in a folder somewhere, so if you're looking for some kind of template that randomly plants a dozen types of different flora props or so, this might help a bit.

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« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2018, 02:41:34 PM »
11241036 made a tutorial on this, which can be found here on ST.

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« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2018, 03:48:15 PM »
Very nice start indeed  &apls

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Lol I could def make a model for this ^^

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« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2018, 07:28:41 PM »
Nice! Remind me... CACTUAR...



...from Final Fantasy 8 games!  :thumbsup:
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