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Upcoming BATs and lots
« on: April 26, 2007, 05:43:20 PM »
Well, I promised new SFBT creations, so let's start a showcase. :)

Diagonal Filler Lots

T Wrecks is working on some diagonal filler lots in order to get rid of those jagged edges next to diagonal streets and roads. It started with a simple request for a triangular texture, but then we thought it might be useful to cover the basic SC4 sidewalk textures and the like, and voilà, a new set was born. The they were just submitted to the beta testers a few minutes ago. Here are some impressions:

Gasthaus Maria

Mathe Man created a great "step by step" BAT journal at SimForum, where he described the whole process from starting a model to the finished BAT. The Gasthaus Maria is a hostel/restaurant with beer garden, a very common sight in the European alps. If you don't mind the German language, take a look: :) For everyone else, here are some pics. The BAT is finished as well and currently being tested.

Rail Catenaries

Kenworth is one of the rail fanatics in the SFBT, and he wanted to create realistic looking catenaries for his railroads. Not familiar with the BAT at all, he learned to create some wonderful models within a few days, and now he's developing an extensive set of all kinds of catenary props.

Ok, that's all for now, I'll let you safe some drool for later. ;)
« Last Edit: April 26, 2007, 05:45:38 PM by Andreas »

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Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2007, 05:57:12 PM »
Bring me..a towel..too much drool..

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Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2007, 05:57:24 PM »
 &apls &apls &apls
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Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2007, 06:18:31 PM »
Who needs SC5 when we got people like yourselves. &apls &apls &apls

These will be very much appreciated by the whole community I think  :D :D :D

Thanks in advance :thumbsup:


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Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2007, 06:25:28 PM »
Hi Andreas - I like the rural one with the wooden fences and trees.
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Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2007, 08:37:51 PM »
Truly amazing ...all of it!!!  I need my towel!!  :P
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Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2007, 08:46:09 PM »
omg omg omg, I love the rail lots, I want them NOW!!! :P

Fabulous work, I also love the filler lots, great work indeed  &apls &apls &apls

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Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2007, 01:28:20 AM »
I want them all ! Oooops , sorry ; I would like to get them all , please ... $%Grinno$%

It's incredible to see all different and complementary stuff now in pipelines by all different teams ... ::)
I totally aggree with TTC , we don't need a SC5 or more exactely , SC5 in already in construction here (and not only there ) day by day , and already in our hands . A revolution .
I hope evereybody realize this unique fact in all games history .

A warm welcome to Andreas & SFBT . &apls &apls &apls

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Offline cammo2003

Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2007, 04:40:07 AM »
Hmm, the track centre ones look like they'd also work well with the GLR... Has that been considered? They very much look like they'd work well as LR overhead catenaries. I assume those ones are implemented using Type 21's? I know they'd look kindof silly in the denser parts of the network, but I still don't mind the idea of them being next to each other in those areas (my "excuse" for journaling purposes would be to permit work to take place on one section of overhead without interfering with other track pairs.

It's only a small part of my networks that are ever uber-dense (the areas in close proximity to the CBD).

As for the diagonal filler lots, they look wonderful... Which base texture ID is that, BTW on the rural ones? I'm forever trying to look for that one in the LE but I always zoom past it.  &Thk/(

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Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2007, 04:57:52 AM »
Team, that are some great projects that you started. The diagonal filler lots are awesome, but also the catenaries are splendid  &apls

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Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2007, 05:27:23 AM »
Whew, quite a few comments here, thanks guys! :)

At the moment, the catentary props are implemented as overhanging props, like the ones that frogface created a while ago. But they will have transparent base textures, so they can be used with any terrain mod. As you can see on some of the screenshots, PEG's Alternate Rail Set Mod looks best with them, esp. when you place those that span more than two tiles. They will be placed in the power menu, which makes sense, and which isn't too overcroweded yet. ;)

I'm also pondering about making a mod that changes the type 21 exemplar files, so the props will show up automatically when you drag rails, so you don't need lots at all, but the main problem is that they will show up everywhere. It looks esp. odd if you place parallel tracks on two or more tiles (i. e. in the area in front of a large terminal station), and usually, only main lines have catenaries, while they are rarely found in industrial areas, for instance.

Considering this (and the fact that making such a mod is some tedious work ;) ), I'm not sure if I'll proceed, but I'll definitely look into it again. Once this set is finished, Kenworth wanted to create some concrete poles, which might also look good on GLR tracks (that's what crossed our minds immediately after the first experiments :) ). Some of the catenaries for the first set are still under construction, but I think they will be available very soon.

About the texture on the filler lots: That's the light green grass is used on the Maxis pastures and orchards (0x25D60000, if I'm not mistaken). It should be close to the other field textures in LE. BTW, the Cycledogg trees that are used on the diagonal filler lots use the prop family ID of my Street Tree Mod. So if you place them next to a diagonal street or road, they will show the same trees, creating a uniform look. But if you want, you can also use them without the actual mod; you only need the tree prop files that are supplied with the mod (I might include them in this set, too).

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Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2007, 05:43:33 AM »
 &apls wow.... i like those filler sets..... :thumbsup:

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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2007, 07:04:04 AM »
 :o  Wooww.......................
Being revived now. 
Alright.....I'm okay.
Love the filler set, very useful and the industrial part looks like it will be in my MD for sure.  Great work.

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Offline T Wrecks

Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2007, 02:40:36 AM »
Glad to see the reactions are positive so far. :) Some additional comments on the diagonal filler set:

- It will be bilingual.
- It will not overcrowd the park menu thanks to it coming with an MML.
- The industrial diagonal fillers rely on jestarr's wonderful diagonal props, I assembled a hand-made adhoc prop family tailored for this lot which comprises ~35 different props, from cement bags to trailers or entire trucks.
- The lots will be easy to place thanks to positioning props that indicate either the position of the diagonal road (for the diagonal lots) or the position of the fences (for the fillers with orthogonal fences). Once the lots are placed, the positioning props will disappear never to be seen again.

The dependencies will be:
- SFBT Essentials (Query UI, positioning props, overlay textures, green chainlink fence, some props on the MML)
- Cycledogg's Mega Props (tree models)
- SFBT Streetside Mod (for tree prop families)
- Jestarr's Mega Props (only for the industrial lots, else they will only show the fence)
- The NAM (for the textures used on the NAM Ped Mall fillers)

Oh yes, speaking of NAM: There will be fillers included for all paved NAM Ped Mall Tiles, too. I thought it was about time to add this possibility as well.

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Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2007, 02:05:25 PM »
Andreas I cannot wait for the catenaries and those filler tiles! Ex-cel-lent!  &apls
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Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2007, 05:46:18 AM »
nice!! i really like the catenaries, the look very german and i like it!! those fillers look also very good, can't wait for release!
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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2007, 12:53:15 PM »
this will absolutely look GREAT on my "Ruhrgebiets" City Journal!!

great idea, great work, great views &apls

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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2007, 01:02:08 PM »
I'm extremely interested in those rail lots. I use FF's lots right now to put wires over my railroads but I love these, very nice work especially for a new BATer!

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Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2007, 10:13:23 AM »
Looking forward to these lots/ bats! &apls

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Re: Upcoming BATs and lots
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2007, 05:51:02 PM »
wow I can't wait for those to come out

I definetely think those middle ones would go great on GLR and EL rail tracks
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