High Definition Props and Textures - Discussion thread

Ennedi · March 28, 2009, 05:53:23 PM

Quote from: Rayden on March 28, 2009, 05:50:39 PM

OK I go to testing

superhands · March 28, 2009, 05:55:21 PM

buddybud, goose great work.

out of interest, does it take say 200 x 200 pixels? or is it confined to 256. (for non model networks ie road)

dave

mightygoose · March 28, 2009, 05:57:57 PM

[linkie] we are using this link..... buddybud and me tried 512, they work but you get compression errors on the image and it becomes pixelated.... he better go find the picture.....

buddybud · March 28, 2009, 06:00:18 PM

this is a base texture.....

bud

edit the top of this is 512

Swamper77 · March 28, 2009, 06:03:12 PM

512x512 images are viewable ONLY to the users that run SC4 with Hardware Rendering. Vester and I learned this the hard way with our automata.

Please keep things compatible for ALL users.

-Swamper

Rayden · March 28, 2009, 06:05:32 PM

Sorry, what's the eagraph.exe for?

Quote from: Swamper77 on March 28, 2009, 06:03:12 PM
512x512 images are viewable ONLY to the users that run SC4 with Hardware Rendering. Vester and I learned this the hard way with our automata.

Please keep things compatible for ALL users.

-Swamper

Oops, good to know that before something gets released that way, so far I've used just for myself.

buddybud · March 28, 2009, 06:11:16 PM

thanx for the info swamper

good to know.

mightygoose · March 28, 2009, 06:11:54 PM

Quote from: Swamper77 on March 28, 2009, 06:03:12 PM
512x512 images are viewable ONLY to the users that run SC4 with Hardware Rendering. Vester and I learned this the hard way with our automata.

Please keep things compatible for ALL users.

-Swamper

actually we decided against 512, too many compression errors... see all the black & white artefact pixels....

Quote from: Rayden on March 28, 2009, 06:05:32 PM
Sorry, what's the eagraph.exe for?

using it for direct PSD to FSH format conversion... and automatic alpha map creation.

Rayden · March 28, 2009, 06:16:27 PM

How is it used and where is it placed, does it need to be executed or Photoshop will do that when converting to fsh?

Sorry for asking so much?

Ennedi · March 28, 2009, 06:19:55 PM

Quote from: mightygoose on March 28, 2009, 06:11:54 PM
using it for direct PSD to FSH format conversion... and automatic alpha map creation.

Can't we use FishMan?

buddybud · March 28, 2009, 06:23:35 PM

Quote from: Ennedi on March 28, 2009, 06:19:55 PM
Can't we use FishMan?

you'd have to try...i have no idea...i found this tool because i wanted to replace some irregular shaped textures in a rock plop mod.....you have to experiment!...but please let us know!! I've only ever used sc4tool before..

Bud

buddybud · March 28, 2009, 06:29:32 PM

Quote from: Rayden on March 28, 2009, 06:16:27 PM
How is it used and where is it placed, does it need to be executed or Photoshop will do that when converting to fsh?

Sorry for asking so much?

see page two there is a step by step explanation of the process...cheers

edit sorry for the double post

SimGoober · March 28, 2009, 06:41:59 PM

Hmmm ... I wonder what Cycledogg could do with this information....

Haljackey · March 28, 2009, 06:54:26 PM

Just had a brainfart:

"This is like going from the NES to the Super Nintendo!"

The difference here is we are going from 128x128 to 256x256 pixels, not from 8-bit to 16-bit. Interesting analogy eh?

nerdly_dood · March 28, 2009, 07:41:38 PM

DUDE. this isn't like going from the NES to the Super Nintendo - thats what Dedgren's texture updates for rail are. If someone makes a full set of those hi-def textures Buddybud has there it's more like going from the NES to a Wii! Those are SHOCKINGLY realistic.

andreharv · March 28, 2009, 07:56:12 PM

Hmm...this will come in handy for new interchanges and puzzle pieces in the future. I'm getting ideas.

XiahouDun · March 28, 2009, 08:12:07 PM

Quote from: SimGoober on March 28, 2009, 06:41:59 PM
Hmmm ... I wonder what Cycledogg could do with this information....

... I think i just drooled some. That be... wow :lmao:

carkid1998 · March 29, 2009, 12:51:52 AM

All hail the discoverer of this!!

wouanagaine · March 29, 2009, 02:43:43 AM

For terran texure, I think there are some properties in the terran examplar that dictate how much tiles a texture will cover.

z · March 29, 2009, 03:25:52 AM

Definitely a wonderful discovery!

I am sure that a number of texture creators and transit modelers will be modifying their creations to take advantage of this new method. I'd like to suggest that there be a thread where people can post which textures they've enhanced - maybe call it "High Definition Texture List". I know that for the RTMT team, such a list would be invaluable, as it would allow us to easily convert our stations to use the higher definition textures when they become available. And such a list would undoubtedly be used by many other developers as well.

For the list itself, if the textures are contained in released files, then the name of the file, the texture ID, and a short description would be useful. Or instead of a texture ID, there could be an ID range, or simply the word "All." This could easily fit on a single line. If textures have been developed but not formally released, then a link to them could be furnished.