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Offline eugenelavery

Re: PIMX Official support thread
« Reply #480 on: February 12, 2019, 05:52:47 PM »
I made sure i have all the .dll files mentioned on the first page. Now when I click on the application nothing happens at all, not even an error message. Was I meant to have all the .dll files mentioned? My computer already had a couple of them and I copied them over to the PIM folder, the other two I downloaded.

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« Reply #480 on: February 12, 2019, 05:52:47 PM »

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Offline mgb204

Re: PIMX Official support thread
« Reply #481 on: February 13, 2019, 03:04:03 AM »
Yes you need all of the .dll files, think of them as dependencies.

Have you tried right clicking on the shortcut and selecting Run as Administrator? It may be you need elevated privileges to open the application. Check also that the application is white listed in any anti-virus/security software you may have, since that may be preventing the application from running.

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« Reply #481 on: February 13, 2019, 03:04:03 AM »

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Offline eugenelavery

Re: PIMX Official support thread
« Reply #482 on: February 14, 2019, 08:24:52 AM »
Yes you need all of the .dll files, think of them as dependencies.

Have you tried right clicking on the shortcut and selecting Run as Administrator? It may be you need elevated privileges to open the application. Check also that the application is white listed in any anti-virus/security software you may have, since that may be preventing the application from running.

Hmm, still no luck. Kind of confused as to what the issue is, don't normally have such problems.

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« Reply #482 on: February 14, 2019, 08:24:52 AM »

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Offline mgb204

Re: PIMX Official support thread
« Reply #483 on: February 14, 2019, 09:36:32 AM »
Have you checked the log file? Does it's time/datestamp update when you try to run PIM-X? If it does, could you post a copy of it's contents.

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« Reply #483 on: February 14, 2019, 09:36:32 AM »

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Offline eugenelavery

Re: PIMX Official support thread
« Reply #484 on: February 14, 2019, 08:57:33 PM »
Have you checked the log file? Does it's time/datestamp update when you try to run PIM-X? If it does, could you post a copy of it's contents.

My log file says this:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "SC4PIM.py", line 1, in ?
  File "SC4PIMApp.pyo", line 96, in ?
  File "wx\__init__.pyo", line 45, in ?
  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 4, in ?
  File "wx\_core_.pyo", line 12, in ?
  File "wx\_core_.pyo", line 10, in __load
ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found.

This means I am missing a DLL? Not sure how, I downloaded them or copied them over to the PIMx folder.

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« Reply #484 on: February 14, 2019, 08:57:33 PM »

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Offline mgb204

Re: PIMX Official support thread
« Reply #485 on: February 14, 2019, 11:50:51 PM »
Which specific location did you copy these .dll files too. Please can you list each .dll file in that location.

Note too, where a 64-bit or 32-bit variant of .dlls exist, which you need is nothing to do with your O/S, but the application. So if you've installed any 64-bit files, those won't be the ones the application is looking for.

Also, I asked about the Date/Time Stamp of that log file and whether or not it updates when you run the application. This is because, if it does not, this information might be a total red herring, so it's really, really important you confirm if this is the case or not.

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« Reply #485 on: February 14, 2019, 11:50:51 PM »

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Offline eugenelavery

Re: PIMX Official support thread
« Reply #486 on: February 15, 2019, 11:52:54 AM »
Which specific location did you copy these .dll files too. Please can you list each .dll file in that location.

Note too, where a 64-bit or 32-bit variant of .dlls exist, which you need is nothing to do with your O/S, but the application. So if you've installed any 64-bit files, those won't be the ones the application is looking for.

Also, I asked about the Date/Time Stamp of that log file and whether or not it updates when you run the application. This is because, if it does not, this information might be a total red herring, so it's really, really important you confirm if this is the case or not.

Ah, I installed 64-bit thinking it related to the OS. I will fix that and see what happens.

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« Reply #486 on: February 15, 2019, 11:52:54 AM »

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Offline eugenelavery

Re: PIMX Official support thread
« Reply #487 on: February 15, 2019, 02:05:18 PM »
The log file was irrelevant. I uninstalled everything and then reinstalled. Nothing happens when I try to start PIM and I get no log file.

I saved all the .dll into Windows (C)/Program Files (x86)/SCPIM

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« Reply #487 on: February 15, 2019, 02:05:18 PM »

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Offline mgb204

Re: PIMX Official support thread
« Reply #488 on: February 15, 2019, 04:52:25 PM »
Well the lack of a log file is relevant, because it tells us the program isn't getting far enough to create one. However, when the .dll files were missing, it did get this far, so the question is what has changed? You could have determined this from the time/date stamp of the log file, I suspect re-installing the application may have simply confused the issue.

Depending on how the uninstaller works, or more specifically how you uninstalled SC4PIM, most likely it is now necessary to start over with setting it up. That means installing the Windows Vista+ fixes, adding the .dll files and setting any compatibility modes for the application. Because all that information is typically lost when you uninstall something and it cleans up the install folder.

Hopefully at that point, the log file will be working again, because it's really the only information we have to determine what's wrong.

Outside of that, the following possibilities present themselves:

  • Windows is not granting the application the permissions required to run successfully.
    Just as before, ensure it's got Admin (elevated) privileges. You may also need to manually assign such rights to the install folder, but typically if that were the problem, you'd expect an error message to appear.
  • Another application/process is interfering/conflicting with PIM-X.
    Possible, but not highly likely.
  • You have a compatibility issue with your system and PIM-X.
    Again, not likely.

Frankly, all three of these possibilities are debunked by the fact that previously it was running, but with errors. Which tells me there is no reason we shouldn't be able to get back to that state. At which point, I suspect one of the .dll files you've used is either incorrect or in the wrong place.

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« Reply #488 on: February 15, 2019, 04:52:25 PM »

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Offline eugenelavery

Re: PIMX Official support thread
« Reply #489 on: February 15, 2019, 05:09:43 PM »
When I go to the site to download the .dll files there are multiple options for most of them, does it matter which one I use? I just selected one of the 32-bit versions. Thank you for your continuing help with this pesky issue.

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« Reply #489 on: February 15, 2019, 05:09:43 PM »

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Offline mgb204

Re: PIMX Official support thread
« Reply #490 on: February 15, 2019, 05:36:34 PM »
Sadly it's very difficult to say, because .dll files are pesky buggers and the specific ones you need depend entirely upon what was used when making the application.

As a programmer, these files are listed by the programming tool when you compile your app. But, unless you pay big bucks, it's not usually possible to re-distribute them directly with the application. Hence these issues with tools made by hobbyists are rarely there with commercial apps, who's developers pay the fees.

Confusing the issue more, none of these .dll files were intended to be distributed as standalone files. In fact, most such downloads are probably in breach of copyright, since it's highly unlikely the site you've found them on pays royalties to Microsoft etc. for them. Instead you are supposed to download the "runtime" kit which includes them and installs them correctly on your machine, it gets very complex quickly.

Where possible it's better to copy those you have manually to the system folder C:\Windows\SysWOW64. Any that remain, do a Google search, but don't download the .dll, find the "kit" it was included with and get that instead.

MSVCP71.DLL requires the Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable (x86) package, I think version 2008.

GLU32.dll and GLUT32 come from the OpenGL drivers, which should already be on your system as part of your videocard drivers.

Lastly the GDIPLUS.dll comes from this Microsoft Runtime (GDI+).

If you install these correctly from the runtime packages, they should just work. Of course, there any many versions for all different development environments, if you get the wrong version it won't work properly because it may not contain the modules needed by the application.

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Re: PIMX Official support thread
« Reply #490 on: February 15, 2019, 05:36:34 PM »

 


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