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Title: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 05, 2008, 04:08:19 PM
Commonwealth of Marathon
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Yoman on November 05, 2008, 04:11:49 PM
Wooo! Excellent cities here, my only suggestion would be to get some more custom automata, maxis stuff just doesn't compliment the nice city.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: turtle on November 05, 2008, 04:16:08 PM
I think it look very nice. Wouldn't like to be on that highway que though. I'm always late as it is...
Look forward to proper updates  ()stsfd()
Thomas
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metasmurf on November 05, 2008, 04:25:02 PM
You're off to a great start my friend :) Great use of green space in the first picture!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on November 05, 2008, 04:44:30 PM
I leave for a few minutes, and I find a pleasant surprise.  This is starting out as a very nice MD, Dustin.  The highlights of this MD for me so far are the sunken highway and the park, although I also like your skyscrapers. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on November 05, 2008, 04:50:02 PM
WOW!! for a moment I tought that I was seeing a RL picture!! Good,Perfect, Awesome... Oh I got it!! EXCELLENT
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 05, 2008, 05:02:56 PM
Dustin this is amazing!! WOW, I can't believe it that you started to MD finally!!! wooooooooohooooooooooo!!!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: praiodan on November 05, 2008, 05:16:32 PM
Dustin, these are excellent pictures and I look forward to the first real update. I'm sure it'll be a true hit - not only the update, but the MD itself  :thumbsup:

The park infront of the Gare du Nord is wonderful... very good idea.  :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on November 05, 2008, 09:29:46 PM
 &apls &apls Yes great start. I `m really happy to see one of your MD. Looking forward for sure.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: phoenix7 on November 05, 2008, 11:14:20 PM
Your city looks great, and your use of custom content makes it unique. I am looking forward to a proper update, especially the downtown, which looks very realistic because of the mix of skyscrapers and smaller office buildings.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 06, 2008, 12:41:10 AM
Nice pic Dustin.

I like your style (american) and your ambiance.  &apls

The parc is fabulous but at the second pic, the Carrfour as not strange ?  ;D

For you, just excellent.

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on November 06, 2008, 06:38:49 AM
I felt this suden and unresitable urge to return the visit. Now I see that it was good that I did so for what you have shown thus far look realy wonderful. I would with sincere pleasure take a walk in the greens of the park that so peacefuly lays between the whites and blues of surownding buildings. The sunken highway looks simply right with the bridge that passes over it...what a view. For now everything looks simply great and shows the work that you put to making those little yet important details. I promise, my friend, that I shall return and walk the roads of your MD.

Excelent work!  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bob56 on November 06, 2008, 06:40:49 AM
great buildings... i hate where in the maxis version you have 10 of the same building right next to each other. The custom content makes it really realistic &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kbieniu7 on November 06, 2008, 09:00:28 AM
Nice, nice. You made it not too dense, and not too loose. And great park.  :thumbsup:
But, I think this intersection would be better if you change it to roundabout  ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on November 06, 2008, 10:49:11 AM
Very nice start on your MD Dustin, a lot of beautiful picture of this very nice town ! The park is looking very fine too ! The "gare du nord" look good in your city my friend ! You do a great banner and the sunken highway look good !
And also , looking forward to more pictures of your great city  :thumbsup:
Arthur
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on November 06, 2008, 12:23:54 PM
Hi Dustin
It's nice to see you here  :). This is a really good start of MD, your city is looking really superb.
I love the first picture with the park who is very good. Fantastic work my friend

And also I'm looking forward to the next update  :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on November 06, 2008, 12:45:49 PM
Wow....

And you told me during MSN conversations that you thought you might not be any good.  I'll tell you one thing....those pics are great!
Love the fsix way intersection.  Please show the me the opposite view of the Gare du Nord, I want to see what you did with the back side.  ;)
I hope you'll be entering one of these pics in the SC4 Picture Contest.
I really, really can't wait for a true update.  It's going to blow me away.
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [11/06/08]: UPDATE I: We Begin...at the Beginning!
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 06, 2008, 02:08:14 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Yoman: Thanks for breaking the ice here, my friend! Automata, eh? I knew I was overlooking something! If I'm honest, I'm not up to speed on what's out there, so if you (or anyone else, for that matter) have any suggestions on where to look, I'd love to hear them. Hope to see you back here!

turtle: Hello! That's quite the queue, isn't it? Thanks for stopping in!

metasmurf: Hi! Thanks for your kind words!

metarvo: Welcome! I'm a big fan of sunken highways, too. Rest assured, you'll be seeing more of them! Hope you'll return!

alan_vzla: Thanks so much, my friend!

Pat: Hey, there, Pat! Thanks for stopping by, bud!

Lars (praiodan): Danke schön! Your words mean so much to me!

kimcar: Thank you! This is actually my first MD, so you're seeing things from the very beginning!

phoenix7: Thanks! I hope to see you here again!

Earth quake: Hello, my friend, and thank you! I'm not sure what you mean by "Carrfour," though. Take care!

Lilojame: I'm so glad you stopped in! I am a big fan of Rainbow Falls, and I will definitely be returning the favor, my friend!

bob56: I won't lie to you, I've got the whole 10 Maxis building to a block thing going on, outside the pictures! For me, it's another challenge that the game gives us. Thanks for coming by!

kbieniu7: Thank you! I thought about a roundabout there, but I went with the intersection so I could work in on of those great diagonals by prepo. But don't worry, there'll be roundabouts!

Arthur (art128): Hi, Arthur! Thanks so much for your very kind words!

Simpson:  Merci beaucoup! I hope to see you back again!

Robin (rooker1): Hey, Robin! I'm glad you made it, my friend...(though, I still stand by what I said on MSN)...And I'm debating my first Picture Competition entry, as well--provided I don't match up against you!




UPDATE I
We Begin...at the Beginning! (Or, Constructing Marathon Island)
6 November 2008

Since this is the first update here, I feel the need to do a bit of a proper introduction to things.

What do you hope to accomplish with the MD? Well, the main goal with this MD is to give everyone, including myself, a look at me, through an MD. For me, cities, regions, etc., are not merely buildings and roads made of cement (or pixels in our case), but a living and changing thing that has a personality of its own. Marathon will also have it's own personality--mine! Hopefully, if you stick around (and you're probably thinking "Heck, no!" as this paragraph lengthens...) you will not only get a window into how I (attempt to) play the game, but also into who I am.

A word of caution. In response to so many wonderful comments you've all made here thus far, I feel the need to say this up-front in the hopes of quelling any grandiose expectations--my playing skills are mediocre at best, laughable at worst! I will apologize now (first of many, I'm sure) for any lackluster, pedestrian, or otherwise subpar work, and I hope that all of you who have inspired me so much will help push me on the right track! Proceed at your own risk!

With that out of the way, we shall begin--as the title stated (clever, eh?)--at the beginning...

MARATHON ISLAND

The main focus of the infancy of this MD will be on Marathon Island, which I have envisioned as the centerpiece of a major metropolitan area, much like Manhattan Island in New York, or Hong Kong Island in Hong Kong. The island itself originated in my head as this...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Maps/1032graph.jpg)

The hand-drawn map was tweaked a bit, and the official Commonwealth of Marathon, Department of Transportation Blueprint Map (DOT BWW-807/8647DKE3) was commissioned...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Maps/1031bpmap.jpg)

So the goal is to try to replicate the above in the game...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1025.jpg)

...on a 3x6 medium-sized tile map, one tile at a time.

We begin with a blank slate.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1001.jpg)

Then, I've found the center of the map...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1002.jpg)

...and marked it with an avenue intersection. This will allow me to move a certain amount of tiles and line things up a bit easier. Kind of...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1003.jpg)

...like that!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1004.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1005.jpg)

The construction continues.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1006.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1007.jpg)

Now we have the rough outline.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1008.jpg)

Time to move on to some terraforming.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1009.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1010.jpg)

I use the traffic view to keep an eye on the aforementioned avenue outline. We get closer...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1011.jpg)

And now, a bit of detailing.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1012.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1013.jpg)

The flood waters rush in!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1014.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1015.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1016.jpg)

Then, I get the bright idea (after the fact) to raise the terrain up.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1017.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1018.jpg)

Don't know why I had the toolbar up on these last two (-1 point for Dustin...).

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1019.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1020.jpg)

And the final product!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1021.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1022.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1023.jpg)

One tile down...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1026.jpg)

Following the pattern as used on this tile, the remaining ones come together...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1027.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1028.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1029.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%201/1030.jpg)

And that's Marathon Island!

Two quick points:

1. There will be more to the region than just this island, I just started here because, well, you have to start somewhere right?
2. The straight-lined border of the island will serve a specific purpose--seawalls!

While I do plan to employ this procedural, step-by-step method for certain aspects and areas, I will also intersperse updates with random pictures from here-and-there to keep things not only interesting, but also from becoming an "exercise," for lack of a better term.

So, that's it! Comments and criticism are more than welcome, friends. I really don't know what I'm doing!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 06, 2008, 02:12:04 PM
Dustin its my plesure to stop in here so far wow!!! Daaaaaaaaaaang!!!!! What more can I say here but other then that... I love the map and the detailed step on you made the Island... I so cant wait to see more of Marathon!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 06, 2008, 02:14:48 PM
Humm, Dustin....

Just what excellent. Really impressionant and great tutorial.  &apls
The region is fabulous.  :thumbsup:

The terrain mod is splendid (C.p no ?) and I like the water.  ;)

Excellent work

For the carrefour, you prefer Crossroad ?
I have a really good english, no ?  $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Badsim on November 06, 2008, 02:28:23 PM
Hey Dustin ! I missed that great event ! Welcome to this rewarding adventure MDing is ... &apls &apls &apls

Great start , and same first advice than Owen ; upload mikeseith automatas untill there's no original & outdated ones anymore ! ;)


While I do plan to employ this procedural, step-by-step method for certain aspects and areas, I will also intersperse updates with random pictures from here-and-there to keep things not only interesting, but also from becoming an "exercise," for lack of a better term.


... and you're so right ! I love "making of" views , real pictures , side notes and so on .  :thumbsup:

And good luck with your own statistics now , among ... your statistics .   ;D

Cédric.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: praiodan on November 06, 2008, 02:28:50 PM
Very interesting update, Dustin. It's very well done, how you show the way how you terraformed that island just after your own thoughts. Though, for my very personal taste the coast lines are very straight-lined... but I'm sure you'll do come up with some good developements there.  :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Tarkus on November 06, 2008, 02:44:08 PM
Dustin, wow!  It's great to see you finally entering the MD realm yourself.  I had seen a few of your "test" pics over in 3RR over the past few months and was impressed by those, so I'm excited to see more of your work with the game.  The teaser pics were a great introduction--some very creative Photoshopping and obviously some inventive transportational stuff going on. 

The first official update was fascinating as well--you really do have an interesting way of regional terraforming, and it was great following it in such detail. 

And I'd concur with Cédric here on mikeseith's automata.  I've been using them for quite some time myself.

I'm looking forward to seeing what else you have in store for us . . . the mention of a DOT, plus that little grid map of the island really piqued my interest. :)

-Alex (Tarkus)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: south park on November 06, 2008, 03:37:56 PM
hi my friend ,great start on your MD and excellent terraforming I have hâte to see your future city !! :) &apls

vincent
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Yoman on November 06, 2008, 05:27:41 PM
I was going to suggest mikeseith as well, but Cedric beat me to it. Any idea what seawalls you are going to use?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Zaphod on November 06, 2008, 10:28:30 PM
Marathon is going to be a really epic city, I know it.

I applaud your effort in forming all those coastlines there, I tried the same thing once and got sick of doing it like 15 minutes later. Go ahead, take away my simcity geek card...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Ryan B. on November 07, 2008, 12:00:52 AM
You're quite the sandbagger, Dustin!  I had no idea you were going to start a MD! 

This was a very informative first update - I learned something I didn't know!

Best of luck, and you can be sure I'll stay tuned!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: turtle on November 07, 2008, 04:25:18 AM
Nice work on the terraforming. I too like to be let in at the very start of the region and be able to follow the whole process. Only criticism I can think of is maybe the flatness of the island, but I guess that's the cost of a metropolis. Looking forward to more.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on November 07, 2008, 04:33:10 AM
Hi again!

I am very glad to see that the update has been launched! I personaly find your approach to the teraforming very fresh, precise and interesting and am there-for pleasantly surprised.
The only thing that bothers me in this first update is you statement, let me quote: "my playing skills are mediocre at best, laughable at worst". Dont put yourself down and let us be the judge of that.  ;) For now nothing even slightly proves your statement for what you shown thus far shows a person who is good at planing and making the plans alive with dedication, precision and imagination. So in all ways:  :thumbsup:

Looking foward to see how the Marathon evolves!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: CarmineHilton on November 07, 2008, 05:50:06 AM
OMG, Fabulous terraforming! Must have taken quite some time to do =p
Anyway.. Good to see that you finally took the plunge and started out your very own MD!
I'm sure with everything you've seen from other MD's, you'll make up the perfect mix and blow us all away XD

Can't wait to see what's up next =) embankments?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on November 07, 2008, 06:16:27 AM
I might have to try that method of terraforming some day.  I look forward to seeing your seawalls, despite the fact that I am no good at using seawalls in my own cities.   :-[  A good update, Dustin.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sheep49 on November 07, 2008, 06:37:11 AM
OK, great update! I wonder how much did it take for you to terraform this island &Thk/( I have to say that I like the fact you have planned everything on paper first. I wanted to do the same with my city once, but the effect was terrible to say the least ::) But hey! You are pretty good at it. In fact, I'll try to do this again :P

Advice of a day from Sheep49: If I were you, I'd build the seaport in the south of the island. Most of the central islands of cities (e.g. Manhattan in New York) have seaports on them, and I think it would look nice. Now I'm being quiet, because I don't want to bore you :D

Great MD and update! I'll come back for more, definitely! $%Grinno$%
Piotr
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on November 07, 2008, 07:43:35 AM
Tough I don't precisely enjoy terraforming updates, I'll have to say: GREAT UPDATE! Just one question, I noticed that in your god-mode toolbar, more exactly the sub-menu showed on pic.15 (game pics) you have some tools that flood the depressions or something like that, may I ask where did you get them?

Anyway, great update and looking forward to more of this very promessing MD
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on November 07, 2008, 09:56:08 AM
Hi Dustin
This is an excelent update, It's what I call a incredible terraforming

This is very good to see the progression of your region who is really splendid
Fantastic work my friend, and also I'm looking forward to the next update
Bye, David :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on November 07, 2008, 02:43:38 PM
Fantastic start there of your MD there!

And great first pictures, too!
Beautiful first update, Dustin!

Looking forward to more of Commonwealth of Marathon... ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bluesinjid on November 08, 2008, 05:02:53 PM
Wow really good cj here my friend! U really took the time to terraform that island it must have took for ages!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [11/08/08]: Replies...
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 08, 2008, 05:09:09 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Pat: Thanks for comin' back, my friend! I'm glad you enjoyed the first update!

Earth quake: "Crossroads"--I understand now! And, yes, my terrain mod is the CPT Italia Terrain Mod (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1527) by c.p. Thanks for stopping in!

Cédric (Badsim): Hello and welcome! It's such an honor to have you come by here! Thanks for your advice on the automata--I've downloaded a bunch of them by mikeseith. Hope to see you again!

Lars (praiodan): Thank you, Lars!

Alex (Tarkus): Welcome, Alex! Thanks for your great comments, my friend! I look forward to seeing you around here!

south park: Hello and welcome! Thank you for your kind words!

Owen (Yoman): Which seawalls, eh? You pose an interesting question...

Zaphod: Thanks! And don't feel bad, I've wanted to smack my head against the wall a few times doing that kind of terraforming. It can be pretty nerve-wracking.

Ryan (burgsabre87): Hey, Ryan! Thanks for stopping in! And I'm glad you learned something, too!

turtle: Hi! As for the flatness--it's hard to tell from the region view, but there are a few elevation differences on the island, but we'll get to those! Thanks for coming by!

Lilojame: Thank you so much for your support! It's comments like yours that help me get my MD legs and gain some confidence!

CarmineHilton: Hey! Thanks for stopping in! I hope to be able to do things only half as well as the great MD authors here, such as yourself!

metarvo: Thanks, my friend! And good luck with the terraforming!

Piotr (Sheep49): Hello! It took quite a number of hours to do all the terraforming, if you count in how many times I had to stop and walk away from frustration!

alan_vzla: I'll actually have to get back to you on those extra buttons in God mode. I'll send you a PM when I have your answer. Thanks for ocming by!

Simpson: Bonjour! Thank for your lovely comments!

bat: Welcome, my friend! Thanks so much!

bluesinjid: Indeed, it took quite a while! Thanks for stopping by!



OK, just a quick teaser for now...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/004.jpg)

For those that missed the question that Owen (Yoman) asked above:

... Any idea what seawalls you are going to use?

That's where we'll head next update--possibly later tonight, but definitely by tomorrow!

See you then!

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on November 08, 2008, 06:26:55 PM
Geez , a lot of work for doing a great island like this one.  &apls &aplsAnd very interesting how you done that . Thanks for sharing  and can`t wait for your update :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 08, 2008, 06:37:51 PM
Hey Dustin now your pickin up on the teasin game lol!!! That is a good teaser there at that!!!  I cant wait to see the seawall devolpment!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 09, 2008, 02:40:54 AM
Wow,
This simply Fabulous.

I like your teaser and you have a big choice of a splendid american Bat. ( ;D)

Just Excellent.

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on November 09, 2008, 03:48:48 AM
Fantastic picture Dustin, Very realistic  &apls I like the fog effect , It's very well done  :thumbsup: The terraforming of the island is perfect, you have spent a lot of time to make the cast ! It's perfect !!
Can't wait to see more development my friend ,
Arthur
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on November 09, 2008, 07:50:08 AM
Fantastic teaser there! And looking forward to a new update... ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on November 09, 2008, 01:05:55 PM
Really fine teaser my friend, your city is looking very good. And also very fine effect  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [11/09/08]: UPDATE 2: See—Walls!
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 09, 2008, 02:00:02 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

kimcar: Hi! Thank you for your great comment! The terraforming was a bit of work, but I'm happy with the result! Hope to see you again, my friend!

Pat: Yessir, the teasin' game seems to be the way to go!

Earth quake: Hello! Thank you so much!

Arthur (art128): Hi, Arthur! I appreciate your words and your support very much, my friend!

bat: Look forward no more—it's here!

Simpson: Thank you, my friend!



UPDATE 2
See—Walls!
9 November 2008

So, the question has been asked by our good friend Owen (Yoman):

... Any idea what seawalls you are going to use?

And also our good friend Carmine (CarmineHilton):

...

Can't wait to see what's up next =) embankments?

In an effort to help answer these questions, and also due to my stumbling—rather fortuitously, given the aforementioned questions—upon a little issue, I've decided to preempt was was supposed to be my original Update 2 with this new Update 2.

So, let's dive in, shall we? This is Tile E, according to the Blueprint Map (http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Maps/1031bpmap.jpg)...([Ctrl]+G! [Ctrl]+G!)...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2001.jpg)

Here's a look at the eastern shore of Marathon Island.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2002.jpg)

Currently, I have four different seawalls in my Plugin folder. This first set is the Shore Conforming Seawalls (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=114) by jeronij...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2003.jpg)

I am a huge fan of these seawalls! However, for this current application, I think they may be a bit too industrial. So we move on to...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2004.jpg)

...the JS Seawalls (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?page=1&Keyword=jaystimson&view=all#) by jaystimson, available on the STEX.

While I quite like these walls, as well, I must admit that I'm not too crazy about a tree at each tile. So, we keep going.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2005.jpg)

Here, we have the JRJ Breakwater Set (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=112), also by jeronij. These are great seawalls, too—but, alas! There are no diagonals, so they cannot be employed here.

Finally, we come to my choice...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2006.jpg)

...the Marrast Embankment Set (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1700) by marrast. They are versatile, they have both orthogonal and diagonal, and they seem to fit the overall "feel" that I'm going for.

So there they are—I hope you like my choice of seawalls! Though, if there are any other walls available that I have overlooked, please let me know, and I'll give them a shot.

I also stated that I ran into a bit of an issue when shopping for seawalls. Let's rewind a second to...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2002.jpg)

...Marathon Island's eastern shore once again.

When originally formulating my plan for the island, I didn't take into account the effect that the height from the island level to the ledge at seawall would have on the retaining walls.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2007.jpg)

See? The switchback (That's what I would call them, anyway!) staircase doesn't even reach the ground, and as for the normal one, it's about as close to 90° as a staircase can be. I wouldn't want to try walking up them!

So, solution? Well, I found two. But first, some more terraforming. Breaking out the Level Terrain tool...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2008.jpg)

I begin to create a wider ledge around the island.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2009.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2010.jpg)

You can see where I went a little too close on the diagonal. I hit the avenue place-holder.

Now for the solutions.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2011.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2012.jpg)

Through the use of the Ground Lifter tool, which is part of the Hole Digging Lots (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=3599) package by smoncrie, we raise things up a bit, and get this:

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2013.jpg)

Solution One—a terraced approach.

And for the second...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2014.jpg)

Solution Two—a gentler slope.

Solution Two does have a few caveats, I'm afraid.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2015.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2016.jpg)

Neither of the larger staircases work with this approach, they don't seem to line up. And for the smaller, one-tile ones...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%202/2017.jpg)

To line the stairs up, the walls from the top of the stairs break up the continuity, as the blue circle indicates.

So, what does all of this mean, exactly?

Well, I'm leaning towards the terraced approach of Solution One, but the jury is still out. Does anyone else have an opinion? Or perhaps a solution to the issues in Solution Two?

I'd love to hear from you!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on November 09, 2008, 02:04:07 PM
Wow, this new update is perfect my friend
Your terraforming is really excelent, the last picture is very beautiful. Fantastic work
And also I'm looking forward to the next update
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on November 09, 2008, 02:07:37 PM
Hey Dustin, congratulations on your grand entrance to the Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad world of MDing! That first update is fascinating and tells me something about how you'll approach the overall idea of city design and building. Those first few photos look great, too, so I can tell that following Marathon will be an exciting experience.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: CarmineHilton on November 09, 2008, 02:12:49 PM
Well, you could re-lot the stairs and save it under a different name so that you have the stairs that have the small fence on top and a staircase that fits in the middle...
Anyway, I'm sure you'll come up with something :)

Can't wait for your next update, Dustin!!



xo
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sheep49 on November 09, 2008, 02:54:07 PM
Good update! Glad you've chosen Marrast's seawalls. They're really universal :D

Now, to your problem... (I can post my opinion, right? :P)
I would choose the first option. It looks really nice, clean and realistic. I think, though, that you should make several lots for the middle way, so that it won't be so repetitive and pretty boring. ;)

BTW, where can I find those retaining walls if I may ask you that question? Help would be highly appreciated ;D

Good work Dustin! I'm anxious about what you're going to prepare now... Maybe some downtown shots? :D
Piotr
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on November 09, 2008, 03:13:16 PM
Great update Dustin.
I like all the retaining walls that you experimented with and adding in the links to them was a fantastic idea. (Piotr  ::) )
I have found myself using several different ones in my MD, even next to each other sometimes.  All it takes is a little tinkering around to see which ones will work for you.
This MD seems to be moving at full steam.  I can't wait for the next update.
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on November 09, 2008, 03:15:09 PM
The terraced approach looks best in this situation, IMHO.  At least the stairs line up correctly this way.  As far as terraforming goes, I am in the process of doing some myself, in a new city tile.  It sure is hard, though.  That's why I have a lot of respect for what you are doing, Dustin. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: turtle on November 09, 2008, 03:38:28 PM
Very nice update. I would go for the terrassed version as well. Would it be possible to only have the terrasses where you need the staircases? I don't have much experience in using these walls, so maybe this is a stupid question? Anyways, it would give some variations to the uniformity of the walls to do this.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Yoman on November 09, 2008, 04:11:25 PM
Hey Dustin,

I think I may have another set of seawalls that might prove useful. http://blog.livedoor.jp/gurry/ (http://blog.livedoor.jp/gurry/)

Hope that helps, and I like Solution number two, but I think number one will be more versatile and would work better :P.

Owen
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 10, 2008, 02:55:02 AM
Wow, excellent work Dustin, really impressive and more realistic :thumbsup:
I like the terraforming. :thumbsup:
Nice Update My friend.  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on November 10, 2008, 07:28:35 AM
Very interesting again how you build it. Great choice of seawalls and embakment too. Like some i do prefer solution one , it`s more realistic that way. Looking very good btw &apls &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: emilin on November 10, 2008, 07:30:32 AM
Hi Dustin!

I didn't notice that you started this journal untill now. Sorry about that.

I must say that I think you really have something great going on here. I very much like these in detail description of the building process. And your skills are undeniable. &apls &apls

I don't really have an opinion on the different seawall solutions... but my initial thought was that you should try MAS retaining walls for longer slopes (it might be solution no 4 if they work out as I think they will).

Anyways, good luck with the continuing work on Marathon (great name, by the way), and I'll be following this with great interest...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: NASCAR_Guy on November 10, 2008, 07:35:58 AM
The Terraced approach is your best choice.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on November 10, 2008, 11:55:22 AM
Nice work on these walls! And it looks good now! ;)

Looking forward to the next update, Dustin...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on November 10, 2008, 12:26:15 PM
great terraforming Dustin, It's excellent  &apls good choice of seawalls  :thumbsup: By my opinion , I chose the first solution, but i think the terraced approach should be bigger  ;) but it's my opinion  ;D
looking forward to the development of the island !
Arthur

BTW, 1500th post =D
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [11/10/08]: Replies...
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 10, 2008, 05:28:13 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Simpson: Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it! Come on back!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan, and welcome! It is indeed a "Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World," isn't it? Though, I can't seem to find Milton Berle anywhere—Or Phil Silvers, or Mickey Rooney, or Ethel Merman! Thanks for stopping in, Joan, and for your support, not only here, but everywhere!

Carmine (CarmineHilton): Hey, Carmine! Re-lotting them is definitely an option! I'll have to look into that. Thanks for your help!

Piotr (Sheep49): Thanks for your insight, Piotr, and your kind words!

Robin (rooker1): Hello, Robin! There are a lot of options for the retaining walls, I may have to take up your idea of using different ones! Thanks for stopping by, my good friend!

metarvo: Hey! As I said, I'm leaning for the terraced approach, too. Good luck with your terraforming, too!

turtle: Only use the terraces where there is stairs...that's a fine idea! I going to play around with that! Thanks so much!

Owen (Yoman): Hi, Owen! I've got the walls by Gurry in the queue for download—I'll check them out and take some pictures. Thanks for your suggestions and support, my friend!

Earth quake: Thank you!

kimcar: Another vote for solution one! Thanks so much!

Emil (emilin): Hello, and welcome, my friend! I am deeply honored to have you stop by here and give your support! Your words mean so much to me! Hope to see you here again!

NASCAR_Guy: I think so, too—Thanks for stopping by!

bat: Thank you, bat!

Arthur (art128): Bigger terrace, that could work in places, too! Thanks for your suggestion, and congratulations on your 1500th post!



Boy, so many great suggestions for the seawalls, I've got a lot of ideas to work through now. But, no matter which direction I head, there's a pretty big obstacle I'm going to have to endeavour...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/005.jpg)

We'll endeavour somewhere I've never endeavoured before...(not at length. anyway)...Next update!

Thanks again for coming by!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 10, 2008, 07:49:13 PM
Dustin fantastic update and I soo cant wait to see what you do with the LE!!!!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on November 10, 2008, 10:04:08 PM
Hey Dustin, I can't wait to see this..... ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 11, 2008, 02:46:23 AM
Nice lot Dustin.  :thumbsup:
I recommend to use the SG prop and C.P prop for this lot.  ;)

I impatient to see the next update.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on November 11, 2008, 02:56:56 AM
Dustin, I can't wait (too) to see what you do with this lot  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dedgren on November 11, 2008, 02:41:43 PM
I was going to say, "Pretty crafty there, Dustin- sliding this in under the radar screen."  Then I just realized that it's me- I just don't get out enough anymore.  An excellent start here- I've learned a thing or two already.

Good luck, my friend.  Endeavor away!


David
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on November 11, 2008, 02:50:59 PM
Hey Dustin, I've only just seen you've started an MD.

I've got to start by saying a great big WELCOME.

You're going to love creating an MD (I can see you are already) and we're going to love following along.  You've made a fantastic start and already have one of the fastest growing MDs EVER.

It's interesting to see your approach to your region - I use the Marrast Embankments a lot myself, plus mixed in with Mas71's walls.  I went for the terraced approach in the West End city of Charing Cross.  You may recall it, but if not you can find it from the TOC at West End if you want to see how I approached it - you may see some errors to avoid!!

Good luck with the next steps - rest assured I'll be a more frequent visitor from here on.

Paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 11, 2008, 04:08:28 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Pat: Hi, my friend! Thanks so much!

Robin (rooker1): Hey, Robin! I have to warn you, I'm not very "up-to-speed" on the LE! Thanks for coming by, my friend!

Earth quake: Thanks so much for your suggestions—I'll give them a shot!

Arthur (art128): Thanks, Arthur!

David (dedgren): Hello and welcome, David! Glad you made it, my friend, and that you've learned some things here. Though, I must say if we were keeping score on that front, it would be about a googolplex to 2, in your favor! Take care!

Paul (paroch): Thank you so much for such a warm welcome, Paul! I am enjoying making an MD very much so far, thanks to you and all the other great friends here that have been so supportive! I will definitely be heading over to WEST END to check out your terraced in Charing Cross. Perhaps there's something I can steal learn! Hope to see you here again, my friend!



Not on to our third update quite yet, I've been playing around a little bit while trying to get the leaves cleaned up in the yard...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/007.jpg)

And a first here in Marathon—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/006.jpg)

a mosaïc!

Many thanks go out to iamgoingtoeatyou / ilikehotdogsalot for his great tutorial, How to Make Mosaics (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=916.0).

Our foray into the LE will follow forthwith (did he actually just use the word "forthwith?"). In the meantime, it's Veterans Day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Day) here in the United States, and our good friend Pat has put together a tribute over at Waterfalls... (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=722.0), which is currently OSITM!

While over there, check out the other OSITM MDs for November (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?board=152.0)—Paul (paroch) is always doing great work in WEST END (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.0), bat and his fantastic animations are moving along nicely in Capporth City (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=1247.0), and my good friend Robin (rooker1) is pushing the envelope with a massive and meticulous terraforming project over at Mind Scape (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=601.0).

Until next time, when we hop into the LE!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on November 11, 2008, 04:40:30 PM
Hi again! I am apoliaging for not commenting in here before but I was kindda occupied... anyhow, to pay a debth... ;)

The reaser on page 2 look gorgeous. I love the ambiental felling you added so its a speldid work.  :thumbsup:

The presentation in Update 2 is also very well done. I actualy need to say "Thank you!" regarding it because thanks to you I now exactly know wich of walls I want to use in future and where exactly to get them and on top of that your presentation will be helpfull for me avoiding the side kick with terraforming and using walls.
I noticed that you used "mayor tools" for changing the terrain and that can be very expensive. Therefore I suggest you download  GTM by Warrior wich can be found on http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1711 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1711)  wich I personaly find extremly helpful and its quite a revelation. Basicaly it enables the usage of God tools in Mayor mode of playing.
I know it is late but I personaly would go for teraced look with the seawalls.

And mmmm... a sneak-a-peak in LE. Thisa shall be very very very interesting.  ()stsfd()

As for your "not yet update 3" it is very apealing and therefore  :thumbsup:.

I have to say that I definetly love what your are doing in here, my friend!

Fixed the link, Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on November 11, 2008, 04:48:05 PM
It's very thoughtful of you to provide the links, Dustin.  As far as the update goes, you have put together a fine neighborhood.  I anticipate your next update very much.

 &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on November 11, 2008, 05:12:16 PM
Both the cityscape and neighborhood look great, Dustin - the neighborhood is especially well laid out. I, too, await the results of your foray into depths of LE. Unfortunately it takes much longer to find a prop than necessary so I've put off working with it. I was, however,  in the midst of creating a cross-index system which would make prop location easier, but had to put it on the back burner temporarily. Still, LEing is a bridge I'll have to cross eventually, so I shall watch with interest as you take the lead.

And as always, looking forward to the next installment in Marathon's history!
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on November 11, 2008, 05:59:05 PM
Great an update . An nice one with this super mosaic pic.  &apls &aplsWow should be in the pics contest. Great work :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on November 11, 2008, 07:28:27 PM
This has to be the fastest growing MD ever.  What a beautiful city and you told me on MSN you thought you were no good.  You're crazy my friend, you were right, you are no good.....you're great.  I want to see more, lots more, huge mosaics and more of that city, please....please.

That was very thoughtful of you to plug the OSITM and Pat's update, which BTW today was awesome and very fitting. &apls

I'm going to wait right here until you update again......
......
......
Okay than I'll be back often to make sure I don't miss anything.  ::)

Robin  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on November 11, 2008, 10:01:51 PM
Wow, I'm very impressed, Dustin! Your pre-update looks terrific! I see a number of buildings in the cityscape that I need to get my hands on (people want to see more BATs in Nyhaven, and one has to keep one's fans happy). Your first mosaic looks great too! I like how you've laid out that suburb, and it's nice to see Mas71's seawalls in use like that. Just out of curiosity, did you use them along an actual shoreline, or is all that water plopped? I want to know if I'll actually be able to use them myself.

Happy LE-ing, and keep up the terrific work!

Zack
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 12, 2008, 12:47:06 AM
Excellent, really excellent mosaïc, I like your suburbs.  :thumbsup:
The first is really interesting and I like the mixture with the Ill tonkso Bat and the HK bat.  &apls

Another, I like your canal in the mosaic and this Update is more realisti, good work Dustin.  &idea
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on November 12, 2008, 05:35:02 AM
Oh my friend  :o
This update is incredible as well, your mosaic is looking very good and the city is superb

The first picture is really excelent, fine work on the L.E.
So, take care and also I'm looking forward to the next update
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on November 12, 2008, 06:58:28 AM
The suburbs look really great there Dustin. You do an excellent work on your city my friend  :thumbsup: Also great work on the mosaic ! And the first picture is splendid  &apls
can't wait the next update (or teaser !! )
Arthur
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: NASCAR_Guy on November 12, 2008, 08:28:27 AM
Stop teasing us with teasers dustin. &mmm :P
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on November 12, 2008, 01:16:11 PM
Nice small mosaic there! And wonderful new two pictures of your city, but looking forward to a new update... :) :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Yoman on November 12, 2008, 02:40:54 PM
Excellent two pictures there Dustin, and that mosaic tutorial is quite helpful, especially when you have the writer of it available to bug with questions :P

I like the buildings you've chosen for that downtownish kindof area, not high at all, but they all blend together very well, looking forward to more  :thumbsup:

Owen
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 12, 2008, 03:25:57 PM
Dustin looking real good there with this update wow!!! I love that Mosiac!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [11/12/08]: Adventures in Lotting, Part I
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 12, 2008, 04:28:25 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Lilojame: Hi! Thank you so very much for your kind words and support, my friend! Actually, you brought up point that I overlooked initially, and that is the use of money in the game. Short answer, I cheat! I use the "Moolah" cheat and give myself about $4 billion whenever I am doing any long-term building. And thanks for the link to GTM by Jonathan (Warrior)! I've been meaning to download that for while! I usually go back and forth between Mayor mode and God mode, depending on the size and scope of the terraforming to be done. Hope to see you around again soon, my friend! Thanks again!

metarvo: No problem, my friend! What kind of friend to the community would I be if I didn't help to point out the great things that are happening in it? Thanks for your comment, too!

Joan (Jmouse): You touched on the crux of my LE frustrations, Joan. I never know what to look for or where to find it...or what to do with it when I do find it, for that matter...but that's a different story! Good luck with your own LE foray, my friend, and thanks for stopping by!

kimcar: Thanks so much!

Robin (rooker1): Like I said on MSN, Robin—you're embarrassing me! No kidding, though, my friend, thank you so much for not only your support, but talking me into starting an MD to begin with. Without your friendship and gentle nudging, I'd still be toiling in the game starting over, and over, and over... And don't worry, there will be more mosaïcs in the future!

Zack (woodb3kmaster): Welcome, my friend! The shoreline and ploppable water are part of the JPN River Project (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1674) by MAS71. It's a great tool that I'm just getting acquainted with. If you want to see it at it's finest, I suggest checking out Region of Balnavia (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=1431.msg198028#msg198028) by our good friend Dave (tooheys). He's doing wonderful stuff with it—and other things, too!—over there!

Earth quake: Thank you, my friend! I didn't think the HK BATs would fit well with the NDEX ones, but it seems to have come out OK. Thanks for stopping in!

Simpson: Thank you, my friend!

Arthur (art128): Thanks, Arthur! I'm glad you enjoyed them. Hope to see your back!

NASCAR_Guy: Ha! If I can't tease with teasers, what can I tease with? Thanks for coming by!

bat: Thanks so much, bat! Wait no longer, my friend!

Owen (Yoman): That's such a great tutorial, isn't it? So easy to follow and works like a charm! Thanks for your comments and support, Owen!

Pat: Thanks, bud!




UPDATE III
Adventures in Lotting (Or, The Scourge of "Repetitive and Boring")
Part I: A First-Time Foray

12 November 2008

First—and a rather large first—I have to admit that I have never, ever worked at length in the Lot Editor. Sure, I've fired it up and played around with it and, within minutes, even seconds, I'd close it and walk away in frustration. But, inspired by the philosophy of David (dedgren), who, when presented with an obstacle over at 3RR (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=112.0) tackles it head-on (puzzle-pieces, ploppable items, wide runways, you name it!), I figured that my best course of action was to jump into the LE and see what I could do.

Luckily for me, this is not too a daunting task, technically speaking, but æsthetically? That could prove to be a horse of a different color.

A ways back, Piotr (Sheep49) posted the following:

...

I think, though, that you should make several lots for the middle way, so that it won't be so repetitive and pretty boring.

...


Repetitive and boring. Two adjectives that, in my humble opinion, any MD author should recognize as their sworn enemies, and both fear and respect them. So, in an effort to avoid these pesky adjectives, opening up the LE and trying my hand at some small variations seems like the best course of action.

We begin!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%203/3001.jpg)

A blank lot with the sandstone texture is as good a place to start as any, eh? But, we could do that with a NAM Pedestrian Malls, and it's rather...pedestrian (cousin to "repetitive" and "boring," another adjective to avoid like the plague).

I start small...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%203/3002.jpg)

A few benches, maybe some...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%203/3003.jpg)

...trash receptacles and a lamp post, perhaps? Still rather plain, however.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%203/3004.jpg)

So we go in search of something...some tables might work, placed rather randomly.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%203/3005.jpg)

Add into the mix a few newsstands and some people—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%203/3006.jpg)

And that seems like start. To me, at least! So, we'll save it...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%203/3007.jpg)

...as "Terrace1."

But one lot does not "repetitive and boring" conquer, does it? No—no, it does not. Plus, I think a bigger lot will not only help with some randomness, but also cut down on plopping so many 1x1 tiles around the island.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%203/3008.jpg)

A 2x1 lot, it is. A lot that might be a bit more special for in front of the staircases.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%203/3009.jpg)

This time, we've upped the bench count and added a bit of flourish in the middle lamp post.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%203/3010.jpg)

A few more tables and a couple bushes later, and we have a 2x1 lot. So, into the game we go!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%203/3011.jpg)

It's still repetitive, but it's a start! I've found a little issue that probably has our LE veterans here at SC4D laughing at my inexperience...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%203/3012.jpg)

As you can see, the tables are obstructed a bit by the big staircase, and the bushes have been covered completely.

But—I am hopeful! My first experience with making a lot in the LE and getting into the game went off without a hitch, technically speaking. As I said the æsthetics probably need some work, so we'll stop here for now and head back into the LE.

TO BE CONTINUED...

In the meantime, if anyone has any suggestions, advice, critiques, please offer them. As I said, I'm not even a beginner, I'm a full-on rookie with the LE! What seems like nothing to you may be pure gold to me!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Yoman on November 12, 2008, 04:44:59 PM
Good work here, its all in the small details ;) However do you plan on using restaurants all the way around the island? Would be quite large :P You also may want to put a food cart on the lots occasionally, gotta get the hot dogs from somewhere :P
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on November 12, 2008, 05:37:34 PM
Hi there my friend!
As first, you are welcome. ;) I guess we are both "cheating" then, with the difference that I use BSC Funding Mod (freezes the expenses) when I feel that I need it.  :D
Since I realy like the way you are making your MD and am sincerly interested where you shall take us, I can honestly claim that I shall return often. ;)
So, now to your 3rd Update:
I liked the approach in showing us your "step-by-step" LE adventure.  :thumbsup: For those who never opend it, it might be encuraging to do so; and to those of us who did is a pleasant sight to see you "in action". I personaly liked these sweet little lots that you made. They fit the seawalls excelently and making a shoreline alive. "Dont sweet" because of that little "pesky" thing with stairs obscuring with some tables for I am sure that that kid of things happend even to the best lotters that are out there.  ;)

To sum things up: you have done another great update!  &apls

Looking foward to see where you shall take us next.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on November 12, 2008, 05:59:33 PM
That isn't bad at all for a first try, Dustin. If you want some variety, I'd recommend prop families - you can use existing ones or create your own. Also I'd try making the tables a bit less dense and see how it looks. In fact, if I were doing something like this, I'd make several different lots with props placed in various positions and orientations, plop them in game and see what works best for your particular needs. Also you can create your own overlay textures more easily than you might imagine if you so desire.

Unfortunately, I'm unable to recommend specific props or families - the information is temporarily unavailable - but if the situation improves soon, I'll look through what I have. Paul's (paroch) market lots come to mind as food vendors, though.

Meanwhile, just keep after it. You've gone farther than many who have dipped a toe into the pool and recoiled because it was "too much trouble." There is no substitute for experience, and you already have some so keep building on it.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on November 12, 2008, 06:04:22 PM
Hey Dustin,

I just noticed you started an MD! I'm a little late due to being absent from the site for a couple weeks. Everything looks nice; clean and organized.

Not bad for your first lot. I don't want to plug myself in your MD, but if you need some ideas, check out my tutorials I have linked in my signature. Hope to see that update soon!

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 13, 2008, 12:03:08 AM
Dustin I for one am not laughing at you at all but am applauding your attmepts grow your learning curve!!!  Owen does make a valid point that there is a need for a food cart here and there and I would add a restroom or two at that!!! I cant wait to see what you do next!!!

pat
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 13, 2008, 12:55:00 AM
Wow, another nice update Dustin.

Your lot is really simply, but more realistic and fantastic for me.  :)
You have a excellent choice of prop, really good.

Another, this a good tutorial my friend.

I'm impatient to see an another update.  &hlp
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: tooheys on November 13, 2008, 04:08:50 AM
I can see this is going to be a pleasure to watch  :thumbsup:

A great looking MD, plenty of LE work and the odd ad thrown in  :D

A very nice start there Dustin  :thumbsup:

Quote
As you can see, the tables are obstructed a bit by the big staircase, and the bushes have been covered completely.

Well that's easy fixed, it's a traffic area between the two lots of stairs so lose the tables and use only the base texture (add some peeps though).

I like that double wall effect, perhaps you could add some market stalls here and there. Well you did ask for ideas  ;)

I'll be watching, looking fwd to the day you promote yourself to OSITM  ::) (You are well on your way mate)

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: squidi on November 13, 2008, 04:34:36 AM
hi dustin,
following your md and espacially how you show the progres was very intressting.
when i saw your idea of deviding the slope with 2 wals my first thought was -wow- there can be a very nice terrace for the relaxing sims :)
and i was glad that you did it that way.
because you asked for some advices to it i will give it a try.
what i can suggest is of cause always a question of taste as it doesnt touch any technicaly things.
my first idea was to make the scene a bit more complex and more flexible by
making different kinds of space between the 2 walls.
if you make the terrace with a width of 2 or 3 tiles you will be able to use bigger props like a small restaurant or a little gift shop, maybe some kind of a little green. however.. this way you should have much more flexibility in making more variations to it.
it is of cause much more complex this way but i think there is a huge potential in that place.
of cause it could also be that you prefer the straight setup what looks much more organized.
so i will continue with some secondary ideas:
first of all i think there are a bit to much newspaper stands  ;)
and now some props you maybe will be intressted in:
i always like to use some kind of public signs like bsc mapbox or pk pub,
and put them to public spaces or in front of buildings.
in your case i think that would look nice next to the stairs.
the people sitting on the tables of cause need a place where they get somthing to eat or to drink while they are relaxing there,
there are som kinds of little foodcarts that would solve this.
next to a food cart or somting similar i always put that hotdogsunday sign (i dont know how to call that kind of sign in english) there is also one from pk that way.
so as you can see my main thoughts are if poeple come there to enjoy there will come other people to get their money :D
maybe you would like to place that ballon selling man there.

so its a huge amount of what can be done on that place and what i told you where just what came in my mind first and i hope there was something in it you like to see there. and if not iam sure i will get some other ideas :)

-paul

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on November 13, 2008, 06:43:49 AM
Dustin,
Everyone has to start somewhere and you have definately started in the place.  You opened LE, have an useful idea and have tried to make it happen.  Can't ask or expect anything more than that on the first try.
Not sure if you know about this, but open your this folder, Maxis/SimCity 4 Deluxe and look for the word document called "Lot Editor Manual".  In here you'll find all the hot keys and some other useful tips.  If you alrready know about it, sorry.  I didn't for a very long time.  ::)

Other than that, I can only suggest making several more LOTs for randomness and move the props in to the center more than you'll see them no problem.  ;)
I also have to agree with squidi about varying the width of the terrace, this will provide the ability to add different LOTs in these spaces and will make things look alot more realistic.  And a small tip, remember that props can be over hanging, I just had an idea, but I'll leave it up to you to figure that one out, or just MSN me later today and we can talk.  ;)
Something else that might be nice is some trees in a dirt circle.  For the dirt circle, go to props and in the search bar type in "dirt circle" or "dirt rectangle".
The only problem that I have found with LE....is that it can easily become addictive and I for one am in big trouble.  :D
Anytime you need help with this just give me a buzz.
Great work and it looks like I'll be moving this awesome MD to Best Sellers within the next day or so.  &apls
Seeya around,
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on November 13, 2008, 07:53:07 AM
First, you decided to start an MD, and now you're making custom LOTs.  I must commend you on a job well done, Dustin. :thumbsup:  The lots do look good, by the way.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on November 13, 2008, 08:17:11 AM
Great work on that lot there! And it is looking very nice... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on November 13, 2008, 02:29:38 PM
Great to see that you want to do some lot with LE for avoid repetition like you said, and that`s a very good things. Excuse if i`m honnest but i find that you have to much table . Like some suggest better space them and you can use some food cart or why not a restaurant . just enlarge a special zone for do it and some times just lots with a sculpture. Hope it`s help but hey great things you do some and keep it up. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Dark_Jedi06 on November 13, 2008, 03:40:32 PM
Wonderful! This is absolutely beautiful. ;D ;D

I just have one question; on the picture with the train running along the river, how did you get such a clean edge where the railway grass meets the terrain? Is this actually a straight section in-game, then manipulated by Photoshop? Just wondering. :)

And as for the LE...the most important thing is organization. The main section of my Plugins folder is filled with tons of lots, models and props (270 items total), all with terribly undescriptive names, because they all automatically save there and I don't bother to put them into folders. When I want to go back and edit a somewhat older lot I've made, its like finding a needle in a haystack. %confuso
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 14, 2008, 12:18:43 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Owen (Yoman): Hi, Owen! Thanks for your suggestions and support, my friend! I didn't plan on having the tables around the entire island—that would get very repetitive and very boring! I will certainly look for some food carts to throw in, too. Thanks again!

Lilojame: Thanks for coming back, my friend! I appreciate your comments and your support very much! See you over at Rainbow Falls (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6142.0)!

Joan (Jmouse): I was playing with prop families when I went in for this excursion, but I felt as though I was wandering in something above my pay grade. With your tips, though, I will definitely be giving it a try next round. Thanks for coming by, Joan!

Dan (dsrwhat316): Hi, Dan! Don't worry about the plugging either—I'll be heading over to The Source (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=5399.0) to check out your ideas and see what I can learn!

Pat: Thank you, my friend! And restrooms...I should have thought of that! Of course we need those!

Earth quake: Thank you so much! Though I don't think I'd call it a "tutorial!" Maybe "learning by trial and error?" Thanks for stopping in!

Dave (tooheys): Welcome to Marathon, Dave! I had actually considered keeping the tiles by the staircases just a blank texture, and now that you've suggested it, I think I may. Not only would it look less cluttered, it's quite easy to do, too!

Paul (squidi): Thanks for coming by and for kind words, Paul! Your suggestions are fantastic, and coming from what I've seen over at Orlach (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2865.0), they're sure to look great, too...if I can make it happen. Thanks again!

Robin (rooker1): You know, Robin, your point about having a "useful idea" cannot be more true. The previous times that I've opened up the LE, only to walk away in frustration was partly because I had no plan of what I wanted to. This time, I've got one, and things are moving much more smoothly. And with the suggestions and ideas from you and all these fine folks here, I'm sure things will start looking up very soon!

metarvo: Why slide into the pool when you can dive in head first, right? Thanks so much for your comments and support, my friend!

bat: Thank you so much, bat!

kimcar: Hello! We'll be taking some of the tables out next time around to lessen the "cluttered" feel. And I like your idea of enlarging areas, as well. Thank you!

Dark_Jedi06: Greetings, my friend! About the train—the space on the highway side is just a row of 1x1 parks that I used to counteract the textures on the tiles with rails from "skipping," due to the catenaries. On the river side, the tracks are directly next to the river embankment. Hope that answers your question, but if not, please let me know, and I'll try to clarify. Thanks for coming by!



I was playing with some industry today. I downloaded a pile of factories by our good friend Jess (jestarr)—whose CML here at SC4D, Industry Giant, sums it up perfectly—and they are nothing short of extraordinary.

Here's a quick snippet...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/008.jpg)


And...

http://www.youtube.com/v/ch5uxvMr8hE&hl=en&fs=1
"Factory (http://brucespringsteen.net/songs/Factory.html)" by Bruce Springsteen. Darkness on the Edge of Town, 1978.
Video by enricsalas (http://www.youtube.com/user/enricsalas).

...a little treat! Well, one for me anyway...and for you, if you're a Springsteen fan, as I am! Forgive me, but this song has been in my head all day long since I was tinkering with factories. Another song was popping in and out as well, but I'll keep that one secret in case another video pops up...

More to come!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 14, 2008, 12:47:44 AM
Wow, excellent teaser Dustin.  &apls
Great Industrial district.

And the Video.  :D
This is my favourite video.  :-\

So, I impatient to see the Update.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on November 14, 2008, 07:31:10 AM
You're teasing us, aren't you?  Even so, I'm glad to see it.  This is a great industrial area, Dustin. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on November 14, 2008, 09:04:42 AM
The last update is really fantastic, this is an excelent work on the LE
The teaser is superb and so réalistic ( I'm sure this picture could be in HoF  :)). The vidéo is looking good too  :thumbsup:

Also I'm looking forward to the next update my friend
David
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [11/15/08]: UPDATE IV: Photoshop, a Mosaïc, and...
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 15, 2008, 03:28:29 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Earth quake: Thank you, my friend! I'm glad you enjoyed the teaser and the video!

metarvo: Hi! Yeah, I'm teasing...but just a little! Thanks for stopping by!

David (Simpson): Merci! I appreciate your support very much, my friend! Hope to see you back!




UPDATE IV
Photoshop, a Mosaïc, and Industrial Disease
15 November 2008

Well, today just so happens to be my 27th birthday, so I'm not sure how available I will be throughout the day (my girlfriend got me a Nintendo DS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS)!), as I'll be heading out in a few hours.

But, as a present to all of my great friends here, I thought I'd put together a quick little update containing three mosaïcs—well, just one mosaïc, really, with a few adjustments here and there—of the industrial area that I introduced in our last teaser. I thought I'd give a bit of a step-by-step on how I made the adjustments in Photoshop, in case you're curious!

A quick WARNING, though—at 800 x 5826, these are quite large.

The first step before anything, if you aren't adept at making a mosaïc, check out How to Make Mosaics (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=916.0) by iamgoingtoeatyou / ilikehotdogsalot. It is a comprehensive tutorial for making these monsters, and it's very easy to follow and apply.

So here we go! Up first...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%204/4002.jpg)

...a simple black and white mosaic, which can be done rather easily by going to Image on the main menu bar, then finding Adjustments, and choosing Desaturate. Or, simply hit [Shift] + [Ctrl] + U to take care of it!

Next, a little more in-depth...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%204/4003.jpg)

First step, go to Image, then Rotate Canvas, and Flip Canvas Horizontal. That will flip the picture.

Then, go to Layer, which is next to Image in the menu bar, and choose Layer Style, followed by Blending Options... I choose to use Color Overlay and moved the Opacity slider to between 35-40%. Then, using the Eyedropper Tool (just hit the I key), I clicked on the brick color of one of the buildings to match the color for the overlay.

Third step—the clouds. For this, we'll need a new layer, so either go to Layer, then New, then Layer..., or simply hit [Shift] + [Ctrl] + N.

Once the new layer has been made, go to Filter in the menu bar, then Render, and choose Clouds. Then entire picture should now be a big mess of clouds! Don't fret, though—in the Layers Window (the one that shows your layers), just fiddle with the Opacity and Fill sliders until you get the cloud cover to your liking.

Seems complicated, but it's not. All it takes is some playing around!

Finally, just the regular in-game picture...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%204/4001.jpg)

...only adjusted a tiny bit to make it look a bit nicer (well, nicer, in my opinion. You may disagree!)

Step one, go to Image, then Adjustments, and Brightness/Contrast. I usually go with +15 for Brightness and +15 for Contrast, but play with it and see what you like!

Step two is to sharpen! So we head to Filter, then Sharpen, and then Sharpen. I usually do this only once, but again, play around and find your preferences.

So, there you have it. A novice's approach to image enchancements in Photoshop! If our Photoshop veterans out there see an easier or better way to tackle these things, please don't hesitate to let me know, because, as I said, I'm a Photoshop novice.

Also, in putting this together, I realize that taking some [PrtScn] pictures to follow along with the steps may have been a good idea. Perhaps I'll go back and do that, then edit them in here.

Oh, and...

http://www.youtube.com/v/Kvfa8xWMyoQ&hl=en&fs=1
"Industrial Disease (http://brucespringsteen.net/songs/Factory.html)" by Dire Straits. Love Over Gold, 1982.
Video by LilOilDerrick.

...the other song that has been stuck in my head while playing with all the factories! Again, I apologize for these videos—they won't be a regular occurrence. Only when playing the game puts songs in my head!

Have a great weekend!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on November 15, 2008, 03:46:39 PM
Those are some super great mosaics.

I have to look at them a few more times before I can make a really good posts.  I'll be right back.

Robin  ()stsfd()
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on November 15, 2008, 03:55:41 PM
Hey Dustin,

Marathon is coming along mighty fine.  I'm glad to see you've taken to MD'ing like a duck to water.

I really like that residential housing suburb pic you showed over the page - very realistic and I love a good suburb pic - that is Picture Comp material IMHO.

Good to see you in the LE as well.  I really enjoy working with the LE and my take on it is that as you get a feel for what props are in which packs, it's often best just to have a few prop packs in your plugins folder before firing up the LE.  This way it's quicker to load and also you're not totally daunted by the sheer volume of props available.  It depends on what you're lotting but SGvol1 is always good, and I also like GasCooker's props.  D66 is great for flowers and bushes, JES for industrial type stuff and I like jen_p's fences.  The more you play with it the more you'll get the feel for what prop packs you use.

Another tip is to also use LE Prop (if you need a link let me know and I'll try find it).  Not sure if you've used it before but it's great for setting plop costs and park values etc.  You can also use it to put your lots in a specified menu.  As an example, when I was building Kingly (West End's Amsterdam like city) I created about 40 ploppable lots of dutch buildings.  I placed these all in the Fire menu.  They didn't have fire properties but just made it easy to find them rather than getting RSI of the finger scrolling through the parks menu.  Not something for lots you'd plan for public release but worthwhile for your own stuff.

Another great way of cutting down on the repetitveness thing is to use prop families.  I wrote a tutorial (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=4261.0) on this, which you may find of interest.  Stick with the LE, it really can help you achieve the look you want.

And great work on those mosaics.  I have PhotoShop but probably don't use its bells and whistles any where near as much as I should.  So thanks for the tips I found them helpful.

And thanks for the plug for West End and the other OSITMs.

Good luck with the ongoing project - oh, and happy birthday!

Paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 15, 2008, 03:57:08 PM
Dustin great job there so far and I am loving what you are doing!!!! I also love the video here to another fine find here!!  I am still in shock by your mosaics!!! I Do hope you have a great birthday and dont get to hooked on that DS it can be very evil lol hehehehe

Hey Dustin didnt realize with my post I dropped you into the best sellers section, so with that my friend a biiiiiiiiiiig hugh congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on November 15, 2008, 04:08:35 PM
Most people know I enjoy a good mosaic  :thumbsup: Your industrial shots are awesome, Dustin!

Also, I hope you're having a happy birthday and let me be the first to welcome you to the Best Sellers section (in record time, I might add)!  &apls &apls

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on November 15, 2008, 04:55:42 PM
Hi there again! First let me congratulate you on getting over 100th post in this marvelous MD of yours!

And second:
(http://i34.tinypic.com/164g9s.jpg)

(http://i38.tinypic.com/3466ydj.jpg)

And third:
I liked the teaser very much! And as for the update I think it is flavless! A masterpiece at its best. Yet again you managed to do show us something interesting and beutiful.
I also very much liked your both videos (yep, my kids of music).  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on November 15, 2008, 05:06:54 PM
Hey dustin
First, :wings: Happy birthday my friend  ()flower()
Second, your new update is really incredible, all these mosaics are fantastic and so réalistic. These industries are very good  &apls
Congratulation for more than 100 posts in your super MD my friend.
I'm looking forward to the next update
Take care, David
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on November 15, 2008, 05:19:48 PM
 
:party: HAPPY  BIRTHDAY :party:

Dear Dustin i guess you don`t know the rules of birthday , It`s us that we suppose to give you a gift , here you gave us 3 great ones.  ;D

Hey mate thanks to sharing those beauty , and excellent work very realistic and great layout. &apls &apls :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on November 15, 2008, 06:05:44 PM
Welcome to Best Sellers, Dustin - what a fitting birthday gift! The mosaics are very well done - a little tricky at first, but it doesn't take long to master the technique.

The industrial areas look as good as can be expected - it is industry after all - and look far superior to most. And I appreciate the PS tips - gives me something to try out next weekend or so.

Marathon is phenomenal and must be setting records for popularity/rapid growth and quality of content. So if I may borrow one of your lines, "Keep up the good work, my friend!"

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 16, 2008, 02:39:11 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY To YOU


Wown this update is really, splendid, no fabulous, I love your indsutrial district.
Excellent choice for the JES and Tag_one bat.  &apls
And the details.  :o
And congrulation for your 100 comments, welcome to Best-sellers section.  $%Grinno$%

I'm impatient o see a new upadte.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sheep49 on November 16, 2008, 04:01:38 AM
Great update, Dustin! Mosaics look good. The last one is my favourite. :thumbsup: The choice of Jestarr's and Tag_one's BATs is superb too! Still, I see some Maxis industrials next to the highway, which is the source of a 0.5 minus point for this pic. I would also suggest making the whole embankment industrial green one. The transition from Marrast to that one doesn't look too good IMO. Apart from that, very good work :thumbsup:

Over info...
1. Happy Birthday ;)
2. Congratz on Nintendo DS :thumbsup: It's the great console
3. Good to see your MD here in Best Sellers

The last thing... I loved the Dire Strait's song. Really fits. Though another song came to my mind when looking at your update (WARNING: The song, as well as video is pretty haunting. Especially at night): Welcome To The Machine by Pink Floyd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMvl2cWMIOI)

See you later ;)
Piotr
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on November 16, 2008, 04:25:11 AM
Dustin, first of all, happy birthday  :thumbsup:
now for these mosaics , they ares pretty good my friend , excellent photoshopping  &apls
looking forward to the next update !
Arthur

and BTW, welcome to the Best-sellers  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on November 16, 2008, 04:46:31 AM
Fantastic mosaics there, Dustin! Great work on these areas! :thumbsup:

Also congrats on the new section (Best Sellers) &apls - in the first 10 days 100+ replies... Congrats for that, too... &apls &apls

And (belated)  :party: Happy Birthday :party: also from me.... :sunny:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on November 16, 2008, 07:04:26 AM
Sadly, I don't even have Photoshop  :(, but this still looks like a detailed and organized tutorial, Dustin.  I realize it's a little late, but I hope you had a happy birthday.  Although I hope you enjoy your new DS :), I wonder how it will affect your SC4 playing time.... $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 16, 2008, 06:28:48 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)


Robin (rooker1): Thanks very much, Robin! It's always great to see you here, my friend!

Paul (paroch): Hi, Paul! Thanks for your LE advice and for your great support! I've already skimmed your tutorial, and I'll be checking it out more in-depth when I head back into the LE. Take care!

Pat: Thanks for your kind words, my friend! And for the bump into the "Best Sellers!"

Dan (dsrwhat316): Thanks, Dan! Much appreciated!

Lilojame: Wow! Thanks so much for the great birthday wishes, my friend!

David (Simpson): Thank you so much!

kimcar: Thanks, my friend! I thought I try to spread some of my birthday cheer with my friends here! Thanks for stopping by!

Joan (Jmouse): Hey, you stole my line! Just kidding, my friend—many thanks for your continued support!

Earth quake: Thank you, Earth quake!

Piotr (Sheep49): Thanks!

Arthur (art128): Hi, Arthur! Thanks so much, my friend!

bat: Belated is just fine with me! Thanks for your kind words! Come again!

metarvo: Don't worry, the DS shouldn't effect things too much. After all, it takes my SC4 game quite a little while to load up, anyway, so that'll give me DS time! Thanks for coming by!



Well, looks like Marathon has made it to the Best Sellers!

I don't even really know what to say—in just ten days, thanks to all of you, we've got over 100 comments and close to 2000 views! Your support is the best birthday present that I could have asked for, and without it, none of this would be possible! My thanks go out to each and every one of you!

Now that we're onto the Best Sellers, I figured that it would be prudent to get some kind of Table of Contents in my first post. In doing so, I decided to move the pictures from my initial post...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/003.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/002.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/001.jpg)

...here, for posterity.

The Table of Contents (in its current form, anyway) is now in my first post.

But, I'm not trying to pass off old pictures for new ones! No, that would be quite dirty. So, I bit of a teaser for where we will be heading in the future...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/009.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/010.jpg)

Looks like...nothing, right? Well, stay tuned, and hopefully I can clear things up!

Thanks again, to all of you, for not only your continued support here in Marathon, but for all the great birthday wishes I've received here and throughout SC4D. You folks truly are the greatest!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on November 16, 2008, 06:39:40 PM
It may be a little late coming, but happy 27th! I hope you had fun yesterday.

Thank you so much for that Photoshop tutorial - and showing the results! Not only did I find the tutorial really informative, you also made top-notch mosaics with it! I'll have to refer back to that update for future image-editing.

You really deserve your move up to Best Sellers, Dustin! Keep up the outstanding work!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 16, 2008, 09:03:31 PM
Well I will fore sure be staying tuned to see how you clear things up!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on November 16, 2008, 09:11:47 PM
You are welcome, my friend!

Nice looking table on your first page. Thats something I need to learn to do in future.  :D

Hmmm, that teaser, I believe, is a great founding block. I can already say that I like how you placed the highway and can imagine the exit and entance points on it...and walls... and... buh oh,ah, I will just wait and see what you have in store for us. But taking your previous work in this MD into consideration, I am preaty sure that a shugarcane candy shall be seen. :thumbsup:

Looking foward to see what you have planned!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on November 16, 2008, 09:25:56 PM
OK, I checked up on you and the TOC is legit - looks better than the one I did! :P

Now I'm waiting to see how you deal with the multi-level terraces and transport routes you've created. I've stubbed my toes on those elements several times in the past, so watching yours develop is sure to be interesting and informative!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: emilin on November 17, 2008, 05:44:41 AM
Factory takes his hearing. Factory gives him life.

Probably the best Springsteen song ever. :thumbsup:

Wonderful updates over here. And it's moving on really fast too - which is very impressive considering the attention you are giving to details. Very good work indeed. &apls

Edit: and a rather late HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! from me aswell.
 &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on November 17, 2008, 07:32:35 AM
It looks like we will get to see a sunken highway.  Of course, I'm positive that it will be skillfully designed, judging by what I already seen in Commonwealth of Marathon.  It also looks like there will be more seawalls, so there may even be a port.  This teaser has me waiting for another update in this marvelous MD, Dustin.

 &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on November 17, 2008, 08:05:21 AM
Nice teaser(s) there! And looking forward to the "end-version" of that area... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 17, 2008, 11:33:06 AM
Ahhh, a new update dustin.  $%Grinno$%
Excellent job, this really beautiful.
Just splendid and more realistic.   ;D
I like the usa style.  &apls

This my favourite MD.  ::)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on November 17, 2008, 02:59:51 PM
Welcome to page 7 on your awesome MD Dustin  &apls &apls

Dustin, the terraforming look good my friend  :thumbsup:
keep up on this good work !
Arthur

BTW, I can't wait to see more pictures of the urbanization   :D
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [11/17/08]: UPDATE V: Sunken Highways, A Tutorial
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 17, 2008, 06:08:27 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Zack (woodb3kmaster): Thanks for the birthday wishes, Zack! And I'm glad that you round the Photoshop tutorial informative. I've seen your map work over in Nyhaven (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=5856.0), and it's just superb, my friend. Thanks for coming by!

Pat: Hey, my friend! Thanks for coming back!

Lilojame: Thanks so much! If you want to put together a Table of Contents for Rainbow Falls (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6142.0) and need some help, don't hesitate to let me know!

Joan (Jmouse): Thanks for checking the Table of Contents, I actually forgot to do that! I'm glad I got the right links!

Emil (emilin): Hi, my friend! Yes, "Factory" is a great song. Darkness on the Edge of Town is probably Bruce's best album, in my opinion, though my favorite is The Wild, the Innocent, and the E Street Shuffle—but I digress! Thanks for your kind words, as well as the birthday wishes! Take care!

metarvo: I can neither confirm, nor deny whether a sunken highway will be coming up...Oh, wait...yes I can! It'll be coming up! As for a port, well, we'll probably get there at some point, too. When, though, I don't know! Thanks for stopping in!

bat: Thanks, my friend! Though, I have to admit that the "end version" is a little ways off! But stay tuned, we'll get there!

Earth quake: Wow, thank you so much for saying that Marathon's your favorite MD! There's so many great ones to choose from here! Hope to see you back!

Arthur (art128): Hi, Arthur! Thanks for the bump to page seven, and you great comments! And don't fret, my friend, we'll have some urbanization soon, just for you!




UPDATE V
Sunken Highways, A Tutorial
17 November 2008

Remember this from the last teaser?

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/010.jpg)

I thought it would prudent to examine how we got there, with a bit of a sunken highway tutorial. I know that there's no shortage of sunken highway tutorials out there, but I wanted to give my perspective on it for you!

Before we start, a few tools you'll need to make things happen:


OK, let's begin! We start here:

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5001.jpg)

At the southern (Yes, it's the southern end, I rotated the map!) end of the tile. Time to break out...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5002.jpg)

The Hole Digger for Sunken Highways, which will burrow a hole at a depth of 15 meters, which is essential for flat and smooth overpasses, but we'll cross that bridge (or overpass!) when we come to it. And, yes, I made that pun, unfortunately!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5003.jpg)

The results of the hole diggers, as well as a road run next to it to level the second tile needed for the highway.

Next, using the Quick Level Brush tool in God Mode...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5004.jpg)

...I've made a trench for the diagonal section. Here's a zoomed-out view:

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5005.jpg)

And another with the highway in place—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5006.jpg)

Now we have to clean things up, and maximize the areas available for development by pushing the wall directly up to the diagonal highway section.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5007.jpg)

And from there we get...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5008.jpg)

...our original picture from the teaser! Highway is in place and the terraforming of the trench is complete.

But we're not quite finished. Next step...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5009.jpg)

I've traced the trench on each side with a service road, that on- and off-ramps will connect to...when we get there.

Right now, we'll move on to overpasses.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5010.jpg)

We begin with the potential intersection. Here's where the sheer brilliance (well, one instance of it, anyway. There are too many to count!) of the NAM shines through.

In the Road Submenu, go to Avenue Puzzle Pieces, and tab through to "T" Avenue OnSlope Puzzle Piece. To get there quickly, just hit [Shift] + [Tab] four times, and you'll get there. Then we do...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5011.jpg)

...that! Back to the Avenue Puzzle Pieces menu, and this time, hit [Tab] sixteen times to get to Avenue over GroundHighway Puzzle Piece, and plop...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5012.jpg)

...accordingly. Now we have an overpass! By using the 15-meter hole digger, we get an overpass with no grade. If you'd like ramps leading to the overpass, I'd recommend using a 10-meter hole digger to achieve this. The 15-meter is my personal preference.

But we're not done, yet! No, sir (or ma'am)!

Exit ramps are now to be added, so go to the Highway Submenu and choose Single-Sided Parallel Ramps. Hit [Tab] once to come to GroundHighway Parallel Ramp - Road.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5013.jpg)

And plop it! Then...plop it...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5014.jpg)

...again, this time, diagonal from the last plop. Now, go back to Single-Sided Parallel Ramps and hit [Tab] three times to get an identical GroundHighway Parallel Ramp - Road. Use this one...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5015.jpg)

...the same way as the first, filling in the remaining ramps! Also, you can add in some retaining walls, as I've done, using the Rural Sunken Highway Walls (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=16283), by buddybud.

So that's the ballgame on making a sunken highway!

One last shot...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5016.jpg)

Another mosaïc, showing the entire highway all finished up. Boy, that mosaïc would probably look better with some development, eh? Maybe we'll have to look in to that!

I hope this has inspired you to try your hand at a sunken highway or two of your own!

Take care!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on November 17, 2008, 06:20:28 PM
Hi Dustin,

I must say this is quite a phenomenon you have going here!  I only discovered this within the last day or two and was wondering how I could have missed it for so long.  Then I saw the date of your opening post and realized that I'm not nearly as late as the post count first led me to think.   ::)

I like how you showed us everything from the very beginning.  I don't recall seeing a region created and terraformed quite the way you've shown and it's very interesting to watch.  Your industrial mosaics are great... I really like the look of that whole area.  And of course your competition picture is amazing.  Love that park!   &apls

Frankly, I could keep going for quite a while to get caught up on all the comments I haven't made here yet... topics ranging from the LE to the great mix of buildings... but I think I'll just stop here.  I'll have plenty of time to make up for past ommisions by following more regularly now!   :thumbsup:

JB

*EDIT... and now you've gone and posted another update while I was typing!  I'll have to come back to this when I'm not supposed to be at work, I guess!  :D
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: TheTeaCat on November 17, 2008, 06:56:56 PM
Dustin

Great MD you have here. Nice clear tutorial too, easy to follow :thumbsup:

Be back in a bit - kettle's boiling  :D

 :satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on November 17, 2008, 07:23:24 PM
Interesting tutorial, Dustin. I wondered how you were going to deal with the ramps, and now I know. I've never seen a RL layout like that, but I guess it would work. Anyway, I'll have a chance to try it out by the weekend with a bit of luck and a lot of help from the techno-gods! Meanwhile, thanks for sharing the info.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 18, 2008, 12:40:15 AM
Wow, Dustin.  :o
I love this tutorial.  $%Grinno$%
This really a excellent work and more realistic the Buddy suken is really beuatiful and excellent terraforming.  &apls

I'm impatient to see a new update.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on November 18, 2008, 07:40:13 AM
You have really gotten into MDing, Dustin. :)  This tutorial is constructed very well, and I look forward to seeing this highway serve its purpose in a future update.

 &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on November 18, 2008, 08:13:36 AM
Hey Dustin,

It's always nice to see other views on how people would do different things.  So you could redo every tutorial out there and it would most likely be different in some way or another and still end up at the same end result.  I enjoyed your tutorial very much.  ()stsfd()
I am very curious though about what is going iin this area.  I hope we find out soon.

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: M4346 on November 18, 2008, 09:58:39 AM
I've been meaning to do some sunken highways myself, you just give me inspiration and reason to! Looking good! Can't wait to see the final outcome! ;)

M
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on November 18, 2008, 11:02:50 AM
Hey Dustin
These two updates are really fantastic, this highways is looking very good but maybe you can use the curves of the nam
I'm looking forward to the next update my friend  ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on November 18, 2008, 11:11:45 AM
nice work on that sunken highway Dustin  :thumbsup: can't wait to see more  ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on November 18, 2008, 12:59:50 PM
Great work on the highway there!
Nice pictures, looking forward to more... ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on November 18, 2008, 01:28:17 PM
Dustin, I'm starting to think you must already have a fully developed region and at least another 200 updates under your belt!!!  You're delivering stuff here at a fair rate of knots and it's all high quality stuff as well!  This tutorial on sunken highways is very useful.  I always struggle with the junctions so now you've given me some great tips.

At this rate you'll be in Classics before Christmas!

All the best,

Paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on November 18, 2008, 08:00:52 PM
Hi there Dustin! Yes I am back in here, a bit late tho, but you know how time flys when you are up to something.  ;)
This update is again a great one! It is most interesting to watch how you do things and educational at the sime time. I already knew how to make this that you did but neverthless I again stumbled upon the very useful information that will save me loeads of time. Can you guess? I am sure you can.  :D It is the link to these walls. You just saved me from spending time looking for them and probably after not finding them, asking around. Thank you! And I would most definetly apreciate your help on puling together the table of content.  :)

Looking foward to see what you have planed for the next update!

Yours truly,
Karin
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 18, 2008, 11:08:28 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Jon (JBSimio): Hello, my friend, and welcome to Marathon! It's so great of you to stop in here! I have to say, though, that I probably owe you royalties for all the uses of your fantastic BATs. Hope to see you again here soon!

Derry (TheTeaCat): Hi, Derry! Thanks for stopping in, my friend! I'm glad you liked the tutorial.

Joan (Jmouse): I'm actually not sure if this method is employed anywhere in real life, at least not to the letter. But, hey—we won't let a pesky thing like "realism" get in our way, will we? Wait...we will? Oh, seems like we will...within reason, of course! Good luck with your computer woes, my friend!

Earth quake: Thank you, Earth quake! I'm happy that you enjoyed the tutorial, and I hope you get some use of it!

metarvo: Thanks! I'm sure we'll come back to this area when development is taking place, just to show what it will look like. Truth be told, I'm not there yet, so it take a bit. But stay tuned!

Robin (rooker1): Thanks so much, Robin! I was on the fence about doing a tutorial because sunken highways have been covered elsewhere, but then I figured that I might as well, since I might touch on something that hasn't been touched on yet.

M (M4346): Hello, my friend! I'm glad I could be some inspiration to you, and I can't wait to see your take on sunken highways over in The Commonwealth of Eleutherian States (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=5310.0). Take care!

David (Simpson): NAM curves...I knew there was something I was forgetting! I'll have to play with that! Thanks for the reminder!

Arthur (art128): Thanks, Arthur!

bat: And thank you, too, bat!

Paul (paroch): I wish I could tell you that was true about having a fully developed region and 200 updates, but not even close! I'm shooting from the hip here, for the most part. I have ideas for updates in my head, though, and that's what I've been working from. As for "Classics" by Christmas—that's quite a tall order, but with friends like you and everyone else here, anything's possible!

Lilojame: Hi, my friend! Better late than never! And I'm very happy that you made use of the link to the walls. They're great, aren't they? Have fun with them, and I'll look for your work with them over at Rainbow Falls (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6142.0)! Oh, and send me a PM if you want some assistance with your Table of Contents!



Played around some more in the LE this evening.

Thanks to Paul (paroch) and his wonderful tutorial Prop Families in Lot Editor - A NUTs Guide (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=4261.0), I played with some prop families.

Here's a bit of what I came up with...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/011.jpg)

An a close-up of the lot that I made. It's a 4x1—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/012.jpg)

It's not much, but I think we're getting there—slowly, but surely, as my Dad always says!

Any tips, criticism, or suggestions are more than welcome!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 18, 2008, 11:32:34 PM
Dustin first off I love that Tut on the sunken Highway there!!! Now a tip I would suggest to also add some life to your lots IE people, cant forget them... Other wise niiiiiiiiice!!!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on November 18, 2008, 11:34:21 PM
Hi again Dustin!
This time I am faster...  :D Yes, I most definetly agree that those walls are superb work!  :)
I realy like this new lot you made. The only sugestion that I might have is, that you add some planter boxes under the bushes. IF i am not mistaken (and I most probably am) BSC Mega Prop Pack - CP Vol 1 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1180) has them.

LP
  Karin
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Tarkus on November 18, 2008, 11:38:12 PM
Dustin, sorry for missing a few updates here--I've finally gotten caught up, though.  And what amazing stuff to catch up on.   You're really a natural at this whole MDing thing.  :thumbsup:  

It seems you've picked up LE quite quickly--just like MDing.  A very nice start on a waterfront walkway, I'd say.  And being able to see all the terraforming you've been doing has been very informative as well, and I've enjoyed all your tutorials.  The sunken highway one is really useful, I must say.  

I can't wait to see what all you do next here--this is amazing stuff!

-Alex
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on November 19, 2008, 12:04:48 AM
Very glad to see you experimenting with LE, Dustin. The scene looks much better now. Still this would make a pleasant noon-hour hangout so you might want to try adding a few benches just for fun. Just a passing thought - it looks great the way you've done it.

There's one little thing I don't believe Paul mentioned in his wonderfully-helpful tutorial (forgive me, Paul, if I missed it!) When you place a prop, you can use the "N" key to scroll through all the props in the family. This was especially helpful to me when working with trees on 1x2 lots, but I always do it anyway just to make sure everything looks OK.

So now I'm anxious to see what develops across the avenue!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on November 19, 2008, 05:43:40 AM
That's look good my friend, great work as always  &apls :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: turtle on November 19, 2008, 06:40:53 AM
Hi Dustin,

Very nice updates. Good tutorial, very precise   :thumbsup:
I'm really looking forward to seeing some development.
Nice lot also. But I guess you're looking at quite some LE'ing if you want to break up the symmetry of the waterfront on the whole island. I agree on that people would make it come alive, maybe add some small shops or restaurants on the lowest level. An idea could be to make variations on the size of the levels in different places, say give the lowest level one or two more tiles some places and vice versa for the middle level. Just an idea, though, it's your game ;)

'till the next
Thomas
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 19, 2008, 06:46:25 AM
Wow, nice update Dustin.

I like your quay, good work.  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on November 19, 2008, 03:17:45 PM
 &apls &apls Excellent look your highway . Very well done. Also i`m glad that you still play with LE, and what you did it`s not bad at all. Looking forward have fun :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bluesinjid on November 19, 2008, 07:01:35 PM
Congrats to the best seller section and the hall of fame picture comp!
This is really a great cj!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 19, 2008, 09:58:19 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Pat: Hello, Patrick! Thanks for the tip on the people, I completely forgot about them!

Lilojame: Hi! Thank you for the planter box idea, my friend! I'll see what I can do!

Alex (Tarkus): Don't worry about missing updates, Alex—you've got way more important stuff to deal with around here! Thanks for your generous support, and I hope to see you back, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): Actually, there are supposed to be some benches on the lots, but they're obscured by the fences from the retaining walls. Just another lesson learned, I guess. And speaking of lessons learned, thanks very much for the tip on hitting N to cycle through the props in a family! It's become invaluabale!

Arthur (art128): Thanks, Arthur!

Thomas (turtle): You've brought up some great points, my friend! I plan to put them into action, too, as soon as I get the hang of the LE a bit more. Thanks for stopping in!

Earth quake: Thanks so much, my friend!

kimcar: Thank you! The LE has become much more fun, now that I'm getting the hang of things. I still do a whole lot of searching blindly for props, though, which can be frustrating. Take care!

bluesinjid: Thank you for your support!



Still toiling away in the LE.

I've made some adjustments with some of the lots. I now have a 1x1, a 2x1, and a 4x1...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/014.jpg)

The above shows the 4x1, to which I've added some benches (or should I say "visible benches") and people. I'll have to move that group of people off the walls next time I go in! Also, I'm not sure about the little graphic glitch going on either, but that should clear up...I hope...

And...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/015.jpg)

Here's the 1x1 (left) and half of the 2x1 (right). Using prop families will help randomize the tables on the 1x1, easing my pain a bit!

Now, a quick question—a lot of folks have suggested adding restaurants, food stands, and the like to these lots. I like the idea very much, but am having trouble locating these types of props in the LE. If anyone can point out where they'd be, it would be very much appreciated!

Now, something a bit different as a teaser, since I've been hitting the LE rather heavily as of late...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/013.jpg)

A quick shot of the Central Marathon Bus Terminal!

We'll be heading back to highways probably this weekend, so stay tuned!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on November 19, 2008, 10:16:46 PM
Hey there, my friend!
If I am not wrong then you double-posted the pictures (but I might be wrong). I was looking around fro the pack with those things also not long ago alas, I didnt find it either. :/
As far I see, you are doing great in the LE! And the teaser picture looks great!

I am tuned.  :)

EDIT: Sweet! I love how the 1x1 with tables looks! &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 19, 2008, 10:28:42 PM
Hey Dustin that looks so much more alive now!!! Looking real good!!! Where's the glitch at as I dont even see it, all I see is the shadow on the wall there from the tree...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on November 20, 2008, 02:36:48 AM
Dustin, when I look back at page 4 here (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg198540#msg198540)and see the lots you started out with, then note the progress you've made in one short week, I can predict a shining future for you in lot editing! Honestly, it turned out to be way too complicated for me so I learned to BAT instead. :D

Sorry I don't have access to my prop lists and cross index at the moment, but I don't recall seeing any food vendors per se. I do see a couple of possibilities, but they're a bit off the wall so let's see if there are some more sensible ideas forthcoming. Meanwhile, looks like you have an impressive CBD going for you and lots of activity. You're moving so fast I'm beginning to think you're either Superman or triplets! :P

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: M4346 on November 20, 2008, 02:42:18 AM
You know, first you inspired me to do sunken highways (and I might add I am busy with that... :P) and now you are practically forcing me to do some re-lotting as well! Only because the results of your endeavours are so successful and inspiring!

I have always been kind of lazy and only re-lot what I have to (mainly for releases or friends), but I guess if I'm serious about MDing I'll have to follow in your - and others' - footsteps!  ;D
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on November 20, 2008, 05:52:53 AM
Nice work on the LE there, Great pictures, too!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on November 20, 2008, 11:36:45 AM
these lots look good Dustin, great work. I love the last picture, very splendid  &apls You've done an excellent job around Feroxx station  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 20, 2008, 12:49:07 PM
Nice update my friend, I particularity like the bus termainl, excellent lot.  &apls
I really love your Quay.  :thumbsup:

Just Dustin, it's a excellent update, go on this excellent work.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on November 20, 2008, 01:22:00 PM
Absolute beauty, Dustin! :thumbsup:  I sympathize with Joan in saying that I prefer the BAT over the LE.  I've never been able to get anything that I consider to be good out of the LE myself, so I truly appreciate good LOTting.  I look forward to seeing the highways that you mentioned.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 20, 2008, 03:08:34 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Lilojame: Thanks for catching my picture error, I've fixed it! And thanks for your kind words, too, my friend!

Pat: Thanks, my friend! I guess that is the tree's shadow, not a glitch. Sorry about that! Thanks for stopping by!

Joan (Jmouse): Thanks so much, Joan! Progress is all I can hope for with the LE at this point. As long as I'm moving forward, at any rate of speed, I'm happy! And no, unfortunately, I'm neither Superman, nor triplets! I just have some trouble sleeping!

M (M4346): Thank you! I'm so glad that Marathon is inspiring you, my friend! That means so much to me to hear! I can't wait to see what you come up with! Take care!

bat: Thank you, bat!

Arthur (art128): Thanks! I am a big fan of that station, even though I decided to use it as a bus station, rather than the train station for which it was intended. Either way, it's great!

Earth quake: Thank you so much! I appreciate your continued support!

metarvo: I envy you and Joan for taking to the BAT, my friend. I've look at some tutorials and just turned away. It seems so complicated to me. Thank you for coming by!



UPDATE VI
The Highway is Alive Tonight
Part I: So, Baby, Do Not Be Frightened

9 November 2008

Before we get started, I must offer a bit of a preface—well, more a disclaimer and an apology...

As of this moment, there is no RHW in Marathon. Not because I do not like the RHW, I love it! But, for me, the RHW is much like the piano—I like it very much, but I'm very proficient. So I'd like to extend this apology to my good friend Alex (Tarkus) for not showcasing his groundbreaking work here...yet! Rest assured, Alex, once I get my RHW chops, the Marathon Department of Transportation will be developing some plans!

With that out of the way, we'll bring back the Blueprint Map.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Maps/1031bpmap.jpg)

Remember this? Well, we've made a new one...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Maps/Highway.jpg)

And now, starting with Tile A, we'll proceed in the game, using the sunken highway method employed here in UPDATE V: Sunken Highways, A Tutorial (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg200188#msg200188).

Here...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6001.jpg)

...we have Tile A, unscathed. Time to scathe it!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6002.jpg)

We've dug the trench for the highway, and now it's time to place it.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6003.jpg)

But now we've got a bit of an issue with the terrain. No matter! Just break out...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6004.jpg)

...the great Highway OnSlope puzzle piece, which is found in your Highway Submenu under Custom Interchanges. Just hit [Shift] + [Tab] four times to get there.

With that in place, we can lay the rest of the highway!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6005.jpg)

Done! So we move on to Tile C...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6006.jpg)

...where the highway is put into place here, as well. But again, as the picture shows, we've got a grade to handle.

This time, we just let the Slope Mod (I'm not sure which one I'm using, sorry!)...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6007.jpg)

...do its thing!

But why does the highway stop there? Well, I'm sure you can guess why, but we'll get to that at a later date.

Moving on to Tile D, which was the proving ground for the tutorial in Update V (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg200188#msg200188). We start by laying some Hole Digger Lots, and we get...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6008.jpg)

...this. And then...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6009.jpg)

...this. And finally...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5008.jpg)

...this, which I've brought over from the tutorial to show the finished product. If you'd like to see this tile put together in more detail, head back on back to Update V (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg200188#msg200188)! Go ahead—we'll wait for you here!

Tile E is pretty straight-forward, and Tile F has no highway on it, so we skip to...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6010.jpg)

...Tile G, where the Hole Diggers go to work and the highway is in place.

So we'll continue with Tile H

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6011.jpg)

where I use avenue pieces to line up where the trench should be dug. Then...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6012.jpg)

...dig it...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6013.jpg)

...and place the highway!

So, where do we stand so far?

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6014.jpg)

Right about there.

But what about Tile B? Why was that...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6015.jpg)

...and what looks to be a tunnel in that golden circle, skipped? Hmmm....

We'll conclude Part I here, and pick up with Part II next time!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 20, 2008, 03:36:32 PM
Dustin what can I say but wow!!! I cant wait for part II!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on November 20, 2008, 03:43:20 PM
 &apls Very interesting and well done! Darn, you actualy inspired me do go and do some roads around.  $%Grinno$% But realy, Dustin, you are doing a superb work! I have to say, that I also like the way the transport map looks. It couldnt be any better.
PS: If you wont find those food vendors etc. you can send me pm and I might bat them out.

I realy enjoy every visit in here!
Looking foward to see the part 2! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 22, 2008, 12:18:21 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Pat: Thanks, my friend! Part II will be coming shortly, I promise!

Lilojame: Thank you so much for stopping by, and for your generous offer to BAT food vendors! I'll have to send a PM your way!



I'm at my girlfriend's house outside of  Allentown, PA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allentown_(song)) —yes, that Allentown, for my fellow Billy Joel fans —and I am away from my computer, so I don't have anything new to show right now.

In the meantime, however, I'd invite you to head over to Mind Scape (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=601.msg201406#msg201406), where my very good friend Robin (rooker1) is not only showing some great stuff with elevated rails right now, but also constantly putting your mind to work with trivia, riddles, and other great brain teasers. If you haven't stopped in there yet, I'd suggest you do it now!

Meanwhile, I'll be back home tomorrow afternoon or evening, where we'll pick things up here in Marathon with Part II.

And speaking of Part II, if anyone has any advice on the laying of the highways for Marathon Island that they'd care to share, please do so! I'd love to hear from you!

Have a great weekend, everyone!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 22, 2008, 02:49:50 AM
Excellent update dustin.
Good work for your Highway.

Go on your beautiful work.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dedgren on November 23, 2008, 12:44:30 AM
I slipped into feeling like I was viewing a really nice technical PowerPoint presentation as I read through the last update, Dustin.  You have a future, my friend, with PADOT.

Seriously, CoM (and its author) are earning some serious chops as a place to come and find out stuff.  Plus, it just looks cool.

Well deserved top-rated in posts last week, my friend.  That's not the last time that will happen, I'm sure.


David
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: tooheys on November 23, 2008, 02:54:05 AM
Some great updates since my last visit Dustin :thumbsup:.

I see you have made some adjustments to the lots along the seawalls, looking good.

Marathon is coming along nicely, the hwy and walls are well done and I like the tutorial approach. I see you did mention the NAM and was wondering if you had considered using the 45degree hwy bends?

Looking forward to more.

Cheers

Dave

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 23, 2008, 11:48:17 AM
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Earth quake: Thanks again, my friend, for your support!

David (dedgren): Hello, David! Thank you for your kind words, my friend! Though, if I worked for PennDOT, I'd probably just end up staring paving projects, only to stop halfway, as they prone to doing around here. Don't be a stranger, my friend!

Dave (tooheys): Hey, Dave! As for the 45° curves, I must admit that I overlooked them. I'll head back in and play around and we'll see what we come up with! Thanks for stopping by!


Just a quick something before I head out for the afternoon...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/016.jpg)

Just a quick shot of the area surrounding the Central Marathon Bus Terminal, as well as the current rendition of our terrace lots. There will most likely be more adjustments made in the future!

I'd also like to extend a huge CONGRATULATIONS to Emil (emilin) and Robin (rooker1) for their MDs Blackwater (with Islas Gemas) and Mind Scape being voted into the SC4Devotion MD Hall of Fame (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=4646.msg201704#msg201704) for Autumn 2008! Congrats, my very good friends—it is definitely very well deserved!

Part II of our highway escapade shall follow...

Have a great day!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on November 23, 2008, 11:53:58 AM
awesome mosaic my friend, great work  &apls that city is very realistic  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on November 23, 2008, 11:56:36 AM
Wow, this mosaic is really wonderful my friend. This is so réalistic, I love your city so much
I'm looking forward to the next update  :)

David
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on November 23, 2008, 11:58:00 AM
Nice mosaic shot, Dustin!

Just one small thing irks me; the plaza over the west highway tunnel entrance seems to slope downwards instead of being flush with the top part. Since I know you've been playing with the Lot Editor, I can show you a quick way to remedy that, if no one minds  $%Grinno$%

If you check out the sloped underpass tutorial (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=3495.0) by yours truly, you can put into practice this technique to fix that little blemish. Again, sorry for hijacking your thread, just thought I'd give a little friendly advice  :thumbsup:

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on November 23, 2008, 12:20:56 PM
You are welcome. my friend, besides I am already working on the prop pack as we speak.  ;)
And the mosaic there looks great!
It is always a pleasure to visit Marathon!

See you later, my friend,
Karin
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 23, 2008, 12:39:46 PM
Wow, dustin.

Exceptionnal mosaïc.  &apls.

I really like your city, Il like your Highway, but you have bug in your tunnel no ?
Excellent lotting, i really love your quay.

Just excellent update my friend.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kbieniu7 on November 23, 2008, 12:44:51 PM
Well, I usually don't like many skyscrapers, but there they look good
And nice half-diagonal road network and nice banks ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Schulmanator on November 23, 2008, 02:00:15 PM
Very nice! A great eye candy treat for us.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on November 23, 2008, 04:38:42 PM
Hi Dustin,

I can't keep up with your updates!  They're all looking good though and it's interesting to follow along with the developments here in the Commonwealth of Marathon. 

I'm glad you found the Prop Family tutorial of use and I'm impressed with what you've achieved so far - I can see they will be of great use to you in your terraces.  As for food vendors....... try these searches in LE.

refreshment (Maxis)
chitaco (Maxis)
farmertable (Maxis)  - or if not farmertable just try "table" and you'll get some that may be of use.

RP has a burger trailer in one of his older prop packs but struggling to recall details at mom.
And RT has a prop pack that has some "tapas" restaurants that includes a burger van.
And another of his prop packs has a small food stall - search under "essence" and you'll find it.

Also...... I think in SimGoobers packs you'll find some "bars" which can double as food vendors.

Next time I fire up the LE I'll make a more definitive list of the ones I use and PM them to you.  There are some out there but like most things in LE, it can take some time to find them.


Great pics you've shown us as well Dustin - great to see your MD grow so quickly.

All the best,

Paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on November 23, 2008, 05:15:46 PM
Absolutely awesome mosaic, Dustin. If I didn't know you'd only just started, I'd say you were almost finished with your region! Your lots look just fine - you've accomplished a great deal in such a short time, and it's all high quality work! :thumbsup:

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 23, 2008, 05:49:16 PM
Hey Dustin I like that Mosiac there WoW!!! The fillers are turning out very good!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: turtle on November 23, 2008, 06:04:48 PM
Very nice mosaic, Dustin

I kind of feel bad that I suggested you should find those props as I don't really know where to get them or if they exist. I see that you have set some wheels in motion, though. The only thing i could find, that might be of use is gascookers marketstalls over at ST: http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=12499
I don't know if they can compete with whatever people here suggested. Either way, your lots on the waterfront already look very nice  :)

Thomas
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [11/24/08]: UPDATE VII: 45°
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 24, 2008, 01:28:19 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Arthur (art128): Thanks, my friend, so much!

David (Simpson): And thank you, too, David!

Dan (dsrwhat316): Yes! That's been bothering me, as well—thank you! I will be checking that tutorial out as soon as possible!

Karin (Lilojame): Thank you, Karin! I can't wait to see what you'll come up with in the prop pack! Take care!

Earth quake: Hi, my friend! Bug in the tunnel? I don't see one, but that doesn't mean it's not there! If you could point it out for me, that'd be great. We'll try and take care of it!

kbieniu7: Thanks! Come back again!

Schulmanator: Welcome, my friend! Thank you for your kind words!

Paul (paroch): You're a Godsend, Paul! Next time I head into the LE, I will try those searches and see what I can come up with. I've come to realize that the hardest part about the LE is trying to find stuff in it! Thanks so much for all your help, my friend. It's been so great!

Joan (Jmouse): Thank you very much, Joan! I wish I could say that I was almost finished with the region, but we're just getting started! Thanks for stopping in!

Pat: Thanks, bud!

Thomas (turtle): That's OK, my friend—like I said to Paul (paroch), the toughest part about the LE for me is trying to find stuff, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Any tips, suggestions, or the like are always welcome here, whether you have a link to things or not! Thanks for coming by, and I hope to see you here again!



UPDATE VII
45°
24 November 2008

Before heading into Part II, we'll take a bit of detour. Dave (tooheys), who, in addition to being a good friend, is also the author of Region of Balnavia (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=1431.0), asked this question:

Quote
...

Marathon is coming along nicely, the hwy and walls are well done and I like the tutorial approach. I see you did mention the NAM and was wondering if you had considered using the 45degree hwy bends?

...

Well, the answer to your question, Dave, is a very easy one—I didn't think of that!

So, I said to myself, "Self," (Boy, oh, boy...) "This should be a quick fix!" Right? Well, not really.

Let's go back to here...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%205/5008.jpg)

...in Update V: Sunken Highways, A Tutorial (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg200188#msg200188), and see where we stand with these 45° curves.

This warrants...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%207/7001.jpg)

...a different angle and a closer look.

With the grid on, we see...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%207/7002.jpg)

...the highway trench. So plopping the 45° curve should be a snap!

Just go to your Highway Submenu, click on Custom Interchanges and hit [Shift] + [Tab] one time to get there.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%207/7003.jpg)

Plop! No problemo, eh? Well, let's delve further...

When we rotate, we find that the curve...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%207/7004.jpg)

...has brought a retaining wall issue to the surface.

With the current retaining walls that I'm using, the angles that the NAM curve has created are not possible to traverse. So something has to give—the angle, or my choice of retaining walls?

I chose the angle. So...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%207/7005.jpg)

...we widen the trench.

However, since there is another NAM curve at the end of this diagonal stretch, and it curves in the opposite direction...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%207/7006.jpg)

...further widening is necessary, giving us...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%207/7007.jpg)

...this!

And our final product, sans-retaining walls—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%207/7008.jpg)

So, there's the longer answer for you, Dave! Yes, I do plan to use the 45° curves...and that's how I plan to use them!

Part II will be coming, I promise!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on November 24, 2008, 01:42:17 PM
Hey!! it's really better with the nam curves my friend, this is looking superb and more réalistic. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on November 24, 2008, 01:44:04 PM
Nice work there Dustin - it's always interesting to see how other people approach a fresh region and some specific building issues.  And no probs re the LE hints - if ever you're looking for something always feel free to ask.  I'm not as knowledgable as some others on here but have played with the LE enough to have some idea!!

Good luck with the next installment.

Paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on November 24, 2008, 01:57:40 PM
I know that you just posted this, but how long do we have to wait for Part 2?
 ::)  ;)
Just kidding, I guess I can wait.  But I too want to use the curved high way pieces and Buddybud's walls.
I love the mosaic from the previous update, awesome work.
 &apls

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on November 24, 2008, 02:08:21 PM
I had never thought of adding NAM 45-degree curves to sunken highways, before, so I can say that you have given me some ideas.  This is an inspiring MD, if I do say so myself, Dustin. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Ennedi on November 24, 2008, 05:56:49 PM
Well, well...

I remember many cases when various people suggested you to start your own MD and your constant answer was "Looking at all these amazing MDs I see every day I'm sure my skills are too poor!..." And the only thing I can say now is
 :D :D :D :D :D

Great work Dustin! You not only started the regional development (and it needs much thorough preliminary planning), but you also play with LE and in addition you decided to explain us how did you do everything! :) That's a very ambitious project. All these tasks need a lot of work, and you should expect many surprises during your region development. But knowing your logical thinking and consequence I'm sure you will handle them all.

I wish you good luck, and every time you will need any help, don't hesitate to ask! I think we will see many unique and innovative things in your MD!  :thumbsup:

Adam
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on November 24, 2008, 06:30:31 PM
I like the way you dealt with the issue of curves, Dustin. Also I like the looks of the highway with a little "breathing room" around it (last photo). Do you have plans for feeder roads alongside the main highway? Whether or not, the transport system looks better and better every time you show it!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 26, 2008, 12:08:26 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

David (Simpson): Thank you, my friend! I like the NAM curves much better myself, too. They are a more gradual curve, not that break-neck elbow that the regular curve gives you. Thanks for coming by!

Paul (paroch): Hi, Paul! I'd say, from what you've helped me out with thus far and from what I've seen, you're quite knowledgeable with LE, my friend! I'll probably be taking you up on your offer to help me out, too, as I head further into the depths of LE'ing! Take care, Paul!

Robin (rooker1): Thank you, Robin! And like I said earlier, congratulations on making it to the Hall of Fame, my friend—you and your work are an inspiration, not only to me, but to everyone, and it is now moving to its well-deserved home!

metarvo: Thank you so much! I've been inspired by so many people here, it feels good to be doing the inspiring! Hope to see you here again!

Adam (Ennedi): Welcome to Marathon, Adam! It's so great to see you back around, my friend, and I'm so happy that you've enjoyed things here so far. As for explaining everything—I'm not sure if you're aware, but there's this MD out there in the MD Hall of Fame called Ennedi Plays Shosaloza (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2157.0), where I've learned more in one sitting than I think I did in four years of college! Your work is one of my many inspirations, Adam, and I strive to have Marathon be a fraction as good as your work is! Hope to see you back soon, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): I hadn't thought of feeder roads, but now that you mention, it sounds like something to play with! Thanks for the suggestion and your support, Joan!



I was combing though some pictures today and found...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/017.jpg)

...this—a shot that I missed during the BETA testing of the FAR/FARR. Not a proper Marathon teaser, per se, but we'll be heading into the rural areas of Marathon at some point, too, so this is somewhat appropriate!

Speaking of the FAR/FARR (though, it goes without saying!), if you haven't checked out the FAR/FARR, stop what you're doing and go right over to Three Rivers Region (3RR) (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=112.0), where my good friend David (dedgren) is doing things that will, quite simply, knock you right out of your chair. Be forewarned, though, you will completely change your outlook on the game once you step into 3RR! Don't say I didn't warn you!

And Robin (rooker1)—don't fret, my friend! Part II is next on the agenda, just for you!

Until then!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 26, 2008, 12:42:23 AM
WELCOME TO PAGE 10
Wow, excellent teaser Dustin, I really like the 22.5 road and Rail. (the Far/Farr  :thumbsup:)
Really beauitufl, I love your forest

This pic is really, a hummmm........Fabulous.  &idea
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: tooheys on November 26, 2008, 03:54:07 AM
Hehe, I'm a nasty person aren't I. Dustin, seems I forgot to mention that little problem $%Grinno$%

There is one other possible solution, reasonably neat, I'll PM it to you to have a look at.

By the way, thats a good teaser for a non-teaser. Nice pic mate  :thumbsup:

Dave

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on November 26, 2008, 06:09:50 AM
Dustin, the tutorial is really useful my friend, thanks for it  &apls :thumbsup: the last teaser is looking awesome , great use of the FARR and FAR  :thumbsup: great choice of bridges and trees  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on November 26, 2008, 12:24:02 PM
All pictures are very nice there! Fantastic work on them!
And wonderful updates, also the mosaic looks beautiful!

(Sorry for missing some updates...)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on November 26, 2008, 03:32:39 PM
Nice rural shot, Dustin. Hope to see some of those in Marathon - I'm a sucker for that kind of scenery!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on November 26, 2008, 03:56:20 PM
Great choice of train there - the VIA rail is what we have in West End as well!!

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on November 26, 2008, 04:43:07 PM
Hi there, my friend!
Sorry for missing on update there but it looks great and that "not a teaser" it looks fanthastic!  &apls
Looking foward to see more.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [11/27/08]: UPDATE VIII: The Highway...Part II
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 27, 2008, 02:08:00 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Earth quake: Thank you, my friend, for your comments, and for bringing us to Page 10!

Dave (tooheys): Thanks so much, Dave, for your solution! We'll be exploring that a bit more soon!

Arthur (art128): Hi, Arthur! Thanks for your kind words, my friend!

bat: Don't worry about missing updates, my friend. I still need to get caught up on your great work over in Capporth City (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=1247.0) before we're even close to being even! Take care!

Joan (Jmouse): Oh, don't worry, Joan! We'll have some rural scenery in Marathon, too! I have to cover all the bases!

Paul (paroch): Thanks, Paul! I'm a big fan of the VIA Rail trains, too!

Karin (Lilojame): Thank you, Karin! And don't worry about missing updates, we've all got things that to do sometimes, right? Thanks for coming by!



UPDATE VIII
The Highway is Alive Tonight
Part II: Nobody's Kiddin' Nobody About Where it Goes

27 November 2008

When last we discussed this, way back in Update VI: The Highway is Alive Tonight, Part I (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg201032#msg201032), we left off...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6014.jpg)

...here.

Since Tile I is nothing but water, we'll pick up in Tile J, where...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%208/8001.jpg)

...we have the trench in place, but I used some rail lines to get a nice gentle slope, both in the trench, as well as the rest of the tile.

Next step—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%208/8002.jpg)

A tunnel that goes underwater to lead off of Marathon Island to the mainland.

With the tunnel in place, the rest is just clean-up, so we move to Tile K.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%208/8003.jpg)

Here, we have a sport where a T-junction will go, and then lead to...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%208/8004.jpg)

...another diagonal section, so we have to dig the trench.

Trench is in place...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%208/8005.jpg)

...and the highway is plopped.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%208/8006.jpg)

Just some more clean-up to do. NOTE: I will have to go back through at a later date to update these curves with the NAM curves, as per UPDATE VII: 45° (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg202226#msg202226).

Moving on! We jump all the way to Tile Q, since Tiles L, M, N, and O are just standard highway placement.

In Tile Q...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%208/8007.jpg)

...we have more terrain to negotiate, so the trench is dug...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%208/8008.jpg)

...in accordance with the grade of the slope.

Finally, we get to possibly the most complicated tile...Tile R.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%208/8009.jpg)

We begin with another tunnel to the mainland, and then...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%208/8010.jpg)

...the trench for the connection from Tile Q is dug.

Since we have three lines coming in from the mainland...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%208/8011.jpg)

...some wider trenches must be dug.

With those in place, we begin connecting the dots.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%208/8012.jpg)

And...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%208/8013.jpg)

...put in the finishing touches!

So, after all of that, we come out with...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%208/8014.jpg)

...our final region map!

And for posterity...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Maps/Highway.jpg)

...the highway map for comparison.

So the highways are in place for Marathon Island. But there are a few loose ends—what's going on...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%206/6007.jpg)

...here in Tile C? And what about Tile B, which was conveniently skipped?

All these questions and more will be answered soon!

In the meantime, today is Thanksgiving in the United States, so I wish all my fellow Americans a Happy Thanksgiving and leave you with...

http://www.youtube.com/v/p101CHrWR7s&hl=en&fs=1

...this from A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Charlie_Brown_Thanksgiving).

Happy Thanksgiving!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Yoman on November 27, 2008, 02:14:42 PM
I like the highway setup, it reminds me alot of seemurey's cities back at ST from a few years ago, he was the American Highway master :thumbsup: Happy Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on November 27, 2008, 02:17:17 PM
Quote
All these questions and more will be answered soon!

Not fair.  $%Grinno$%

All the highways are done, now what goes in between.  :-\

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 27, 2008, 03:02:21 PM
amazing stuff Mr admin sir!! I got to keep myself on my toes now and another hugh congrats to you for your promotion sir!!! Dustin what an honor!!!! I have got to come in here constantly to see what you are doing every hour just to make sure I havent missed anything lol...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on November 27, 2008, 04:15:39 PM
Well-planned highway system, Dustin. Wish I could say the same for my work, but I'm a lot more haphazard and no good whatsoever at long-range planning. And I think Robin made a good point about what goes in between - I'm pretty curious myself.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on November 27, 2008, 04:33:48 PM
Hi Dustin! Yes, you are right, we do. As for the update, I have to say it is nicely executed but that goes for all of your updates. Again it is very interesting to see how you build roads. What you did on picture 14 with those 3 highways is something I would never came up with, so I find it great and even inspirational.
I was never a "fan" for transportation networks, but not because I would not find them fascinating (since I do) but because they are my weak point, something that I am unable to understand quite right for now but looking at your work here is tempting me to try it and not just let it behind in some "dark corner".
Anyhow, to make it short, you are doing superb work here and I am very much interested in what you will show us next. :thumbsup:

Yours Truly,
Karin ()borg()

PS: Congratulations on becoming and admin at this great site. Seeing your work here, which portrays devotion, imagination, good planing and making those plans alive and last but not least the precision that you show, I am very sure that you will do a superb work on this new position also.  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on November 27, 2008, 07:46:28 PM
Hi Dustin!  That's a very nice highway layout you've got going.  This must be an incredibly busy island to warrant such a huge tunnel!  I really like how you transitioned from tunnel's "gathering point" into the three different routes.  I'm curious to see how you've done the other entrance on the western side of the island... but I suppose I'll just have to sit and wait until you get around to letting us all see it.

Congratulations on all the different successes you're having here.  Between this MD, the new staffing arrangements, and the other competitions going on... you've had one heck of a month!  :thumbsup:

JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on November 27, 2008, 10:02:39 PM
I must congratulate you on becoming an admin, Dustin.  It is an honor that you truly deserve, considering all of the wonderful work that you have done on our site.  Of course, it goes without saying that some of this amazing work can be found right here in CoM.  This highway system is very thoughtfully and carefully built.  This is the kind of construction that SC4D transit heroes are known for.  I hope that this has been a happy Thanksgiving for you, Dustin.

 &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: projectadam on November 28, 2008, 01:47:29 PM
Dustin,

I suppose I have lurked here long enough and it is time to come out of the shadows. This has been a treat of an MD to follow especially since I love seeing things from start to finish and the initial planning stages. The highway network is fabulous! You have also done a great job keeping this MD very interesting without having a single building. Keep up the good work and I guess it is time to head back into the shadows for me ()lurker()
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 29, 2008, 12:38:31 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Owen (Yoman): I hope that you had a wonderful Thanksgiving, too, my friend! And thank you so much for the great comment! Hope to see you back!

Robin (rooker1): Hi, Robin! In between, eh? You want the real answer—I have no idea...yet! We'll find out together! Take care, my friend!

Pat: Thank you for the congratulations, and for your kind words!

Joan (Jmouse): Hello, Joan! Like I said to Robin, your guess is as good as mine!

Karin (Lilojame): Thank you so much, Karin! Your support is very much appreciated, both for Marathon, and for my new position here at SC4D!

Jon (JBSimio): It's been quite a month, not only for me, but for all of SC4D! The Anniversary has made things so special around here, I'm just happy to be a part and do my part! And thank you for your comments on the highway system, too! From seeing your highway set-ups over in Covington (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=4274.0), I know that you know your way around a highway! Thanks for stopping by!

metarvo: Thanks so very much, my friend. You are too kind! I hope you and yours had a wonderful Thanksgiving, too!

projectadam: Thanks for coming out of the shadows, my friend! But, don't worry, feel free to lurk any time!



First, I must thank everyone for the heart-felt words of congratulations and support that I have gotten, not only here in Marathon, but elsewhere throughout SC4D, on being selected as an Administrator. Most of all, I would like to thank our leader and good friend jeronij for trusting me with this position. I will have that trust on my mind with every decision that I make in this new responsibility, and I will do my best not to let you or the community down! Thank you all so very, very much!

I'm back in Allentown this weekend again, but I received a PM from your friend and mine, Dave (tooheys), whose question earlier about the 45° NAM curves took us on the much needed tangent in UPDATE VII: 45° (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg202226#msg202226). In the PM, Dave outlined another solution to the problem addressed in the aforementioned update...

(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6818/newcityjan1400122727241an0.jpg)

...which will most certainly come in handy to keep the curves and diagonal sections of Marathon Island's highway from getting...(gulp)...repetitive and boring.

Dave, thank you so much for this solution, my friend! My undying need for variation is now appeased, thanks to you!

And one more treat for you, considering my current location—

http://www.youtube.com/v/MocLVpRVPOY&hl=en&fs=1
"Allentown" by Billy Joel. The Nylon Curtain, 1982.

Technically, my girlfriend lives closer to Bethlehem than Allentown (http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=Allentown&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=title), but, well, Bethlehem's in the song, too!

Oh, and we're also closing in on 200 comments already! I have to say, you guys are the best! The absolute best!

Who'll ring the bell?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on November 29, 2008, 02:03:56 AM
Nice teaser and video dustin, I really like this.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on November 29, 2008, 02:36:23 AM
The last update is really fantastic, the highways are looking really superb and incredible. And also now with curves it's fantastic and more réalistic  &apls &apls
Also your région map is really excellent, great work on it  :thumbsup:. Also I'm am looking forward to the next update my friend  ::)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: squidi on November 29, 2008, 03:26:35 AM
great work dustin!
i love to see how you show all the progress step by step even if iam sometimes
a bit to lazy to leave a comment /wrrd%&

-paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 29, 2008, 03:31:53 AM
Dustin intresting indeed there and gotta love a twist!!! Gotta love that video there as well too...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on November 29, 2008, 09:10:39 AM
 &apls Nice evolution for your highway Dustin It`s not always easy to get a great render but when we find it that give a great satifaction. I like the way who give the curve on the last pic. My only sugest it if is possible to get this way with your fences section . Not absolutely round way but

(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2742/newcityjan1400122727241np9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)  more same look each side of the curve. Hope you understand whst i mean  ;D Anyway it`s only a suggestion. you are the boss :D Looking forward
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on November 29, 2008, 10:32:12 AM
Nice work there on the highway! And also wonderful pictures!
Looking forward to more... :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on November 29, 2008, 01:50:53 PM
Dustin, that curve looks great! Dave is really good at figuring things like that out, but don't tell him I said so! ;) I really like the walls you're using, too. It's amazing to see how things are turning out since you first laid out the terraforming and dragged a few highways.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 30, 2008, 01:08:38 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Earth quake: Merci bien, mon fidèle ami! I can always count on you stopping in with your very kind words of support!

David (Simpson): Thank you so much, David! Your great comments here in Marathon are always appreciated~

Paul (squidi): Thanks for coming by, Paul! I understand about being too lazy to comment, too! There's so much that goes on here at SC4D, it's hard to comment on all of it!

Pat: Thanks, my friend!

kimcar: Actually, that picture was taken by Dave (tooheys) and sent to me by PM. Your idea for filling in those gaps is a great one, though, and I will most certainly be making the most of it! Thank you so very much!

bat: Thank you, bat! It's great to see you here, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): Don't worry, your secret's safe with me, Joan! I know what you mean about Dave, too—he does seem to be good a figuring stuff out! (I knew there was a reason we kept you around, Dave! Heh!) Thanks for your support, Joan!



Well, here we are! 200+ replies, over 3600 views, and all in a span of about 25 days!

Friends, I don't really know how to thank all of you for taking the time to come to Marathon, whether posting or just checking thing out. When I started this MD—and even before...ask Robin (rooker1)!—I was worried that I didn't have any worthwhile to show, or that I was only rehashing ideas previously examined by our great minds here at SC4D and elsewhere. Whether that is the case or not, all of you have made the first 25 days of this MD some of the best time I've spent here at SC4D! If the next 25 days are half as great as the past ones were, things can only get better!

And speaking of Robin...I have to give my very good friend a special thank you, since he is the man responsible for Marathon opening in the first place! About a month ago, he and I were discussing the possibility of my opening an MD on MSN, to which he responded with daily pleading, prodding, persuading, and other words that begin with "P" as well, until I surrendered! While I had many ideas in my head, without Robin's support, I would never have gone into the game and put those ideas into action. And for that, alone, I owe him a great debt of gratitude! Thank you so much, Robin! So if you're a fan of things here in Marathon, make sure you thank our friend Robin!

It's almost 2:00 AM here in Pennsylvania, so just a quick note. I've made a banner for the Table of Contents...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Table.jpg)

...and it's up in the first post of the thread.

More from Marathon will be coming soon! Thank you all again, from the bottom of my heart!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on November 30, 2008, 01:41:19 PM
Congrats to my good friend Dustin for a very well earned award.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MD%20Awards/BEST-RP.jpg)

Robin  &apls &apls &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on November 30, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
well even though you are not in recently published anymore Dustin Congratulations for Winning the MD award!!!! Robin thank you for lighting the fire under Dustin to do the MD!!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threeswept on November 30, 2008, 02:10:53 PM
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR AWARD!!!!! &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Ryan B. on November 30, 2008, 02:13:09 PM
A well-deserved award to the fastest-growing MD I've ever seen.

Congratulations, Dustin - and keep the good times a-rollin'!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Heblem on November 30, 2008, 06:09:41 PM
Dustin, congratulations for the award! and im new to here at your MD, sorry for not being here in your last updates.

I watched the entire MD, and your antetion to details its great! im really impressed, also your skills in LE are perfect i think your better than me, hehe

Can't wait til your next update,
take care
Eblem
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on November 30, 2008, 06:36:36 PM
Hi there, my friend!
(http://i38.tinypic.com/28ibz9g.jpg)
 &apls
Seriously, you deserve it!

Yours truly,
Karin
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on November 30, 2008, 07:07:38 PM
Congratulations, Dustin, and thanks, Robin. You guys make a winning duo in the MD department! :thumbsup:

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on November 30, 2008, 08:24:47 PM
With a great start no doubt you deserve this award  &apls &apls &apls Congrats Dustin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on November 30, 2008, 11:52:29 PM
Congratulations, Dustin!  It's been such an amazing start and I can't even begin to imagine what you might have in store for us in the future.  All I know is that I'm looking forward to seeing it... whatever it might be!   &apls  &apls  &apls

JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 01, 2008, 05:27:36 AM
Congrats for your award, Dustin!!! Nice work on your MD there and also in the Recently Public - section (only 2 weeks in that section &apls)... &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on December 01, 2008, 08:45:12 AM
It may have taken you a while to start an MD, but I really don't know why you waited so long.  CoM is proof that you really do have it in you, Dustin. :thumbsup:  On the other hand, you might not have been in Recently Published at the right time to win this award if you had started CoM earlier, so I suppose it worked out.  Congratulations, Dustin.  With progress like this, it may not be too long before this wonderful MD gets moved to Classics.  I do hope you're careful with that gift you received. ;) lol

 &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on December 01, 2008, 12:49:16 PM
Dustin, congrats on this very well deserved award  &apls
The last update I forgot, is really nice my friend, excellent terraforming  :thumbsup:

and welcome to the OSITM, it's very well deserved, for a great start of your MD  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on December 01, 2008, 01:38:47 PM
BIG congrats Dustin on both the MD award and the movement to OSITM.  With the sheer volume of comments and the interest CoM has generated it would have been a crime if you were not here!!

Enjoy the month and I look forward to seeing what you deliver for us.

Paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on December 01, 2008, 01:44:39 PM
Hey Dustin congrats on winning your award again and also going OSITM!!!! WOW you got a biiiiiig month ahead of you!!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 01, 2008, 03:18:28 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Robin (rooker1): Wow, thank you so much for doing the honors, Robin! I couldn't have gotten better news from a better person!

Pat: Thank you, my friend! And thanks for thanking Robin, too—he deserves it!

threeswept: Wow, thank you!

Ryan (burgsabre87): Thank you, Ryan! I'll definitely try to keep'em rollin'!

Eblem (Heblem): Thank you for coming by, my friend! And thank you for your kind words, too! Your support is very much appreciated!

Karin (Lilojame): Thanks so much, Karin! And congratulations on winning Best Newcomer, too!

Joan (Jmouse): That Robin guy's all right, isn't he? I'll say he is! Thanks, Joan!

kimcar: Thank you very much!

Jon (JBSimio): Thanks, Jon! I'm looking forward to it, too—I don't really know where things are headed yet!

bat: Thank you, bat! I appreciate it, my friend!

metarvo: Thanks, my friend! Like I said, I was reluctant to start one because I wasn't sure if I'd be successful at it. Thanks to you and everyone else, it seems like things are going OK! Thanks again, for your continued support!

Arthur (art128): Merci, Arthur!

Paul (paroch): Hi, Paul! Thank you for taking the time to stop in with your kind words! You're a true friend!

Pat: Thanks, buddy! I hope December's as good as November was!



Well, this is getting overwhelming!

First, being awarded Best in Recently Published after only spending 10 days in the section was great, but now I've been selected for Of Special Interest This Month in December!

There have been more than a few MDs that have done some wonderful things with their time in OSITM. Heck, look at the group we had in November—Pat, Robin, Paul, and bat—now that is a group of MD authors that know how to celebrate OSITM! I only hope that I can use the time half as well as they have!

So, first item—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

Each day in the month of December, we'll be posting a different picture of something random from Marathon. Kind of as a teaser, but more as a celebration of the time in OSITM.

Here's...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Dec01.jpg)
DECEMBER 1

I also have a bit of a surprise in the works, but we'll get to that in due time...

Also, of course, updates will be posted like they always have been, so with any luck, things here in Marathon should be pretty busy for the month of December!

One down, 30 to go!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Ennedi on December 01, 2008, 03:27:00 PM
Hey Dustin, you really made "Enter the Dragon" here!  :D :thumbsup:

Both your awards are very well deserved, and I hope you will not underappreciate your playing skills anymore!  :D

But the most important thing is you made a really interesting and creative MD, and I think it's not only a pleasure for your viewers, but a joy for you too - and I knew that it's a joy when I (and some others) suggested you to start the MD adventure  ;)

Wow, 31 pictures - the first one is very good, I will wait for next ones!

Adam
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on December 01, 2008, 04:02:49 PM
Congrats, Dustin, on both your OSITM and your MD Award  :thumbsup: &apls &apls!

So every day we'll see something different? A fitting task for OSITM. Everything looks nice and clean, I look forward to more!

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on December 01, 2008, 05:25:37 PM
Hey Dustin!

Thanks and congrats on being in OSITM!!!  &apls Lovely picture there!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on December 01, 2008, 05:32:24 PM
Dustin no problem at all, in response to your replies to me!!! Hey I love that new pic and your 31 days of OSITM Pic is stunning!!! Of course now there is 30 to go and I will be in everyday to support you my friend!!!  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 01, 2008, 07:15:21 PM
Congrats my friend.  I feel like I keep saying this to everyone recently.  And more so to some.  ::)  ;)
Awesome picture and I love the idea, almost like an Advent calendar.  I can't wait for the other 30 and what ever goes in between and this surprise you say you are working has me a little perplexed.  ???
I'll be watchin you this month for sure.
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bluesinjid on December 01, 2008, 07:48:17 PM
Wow congratz again on your award in recently published and now O.S.I.M!  &apls  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dedgren on December 01, 2008, 09:27:28 PM
Congratulations, thundercrack83!

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The MD Section Staff*

* Actually, Dustin, it's just little old me filling in for Robin and you.  The ribbons were a bit late arriving from the printer. -DE
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 01, 2008, 09:32:41 PM
An official Congrats now. 
It's no surprise to me that your MD found it's way into the OSITM so quickly.  Awesome pics, fantastic tutorials great terraforming all come together to make one super MD.

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Heblem on December 01, 2008, 09:41:34 PM
Congratulations for the MD month award!!  :thumbsup:

As for the first picture of the month looks really interesting i like the fair variation of the buildings height...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 02, 2008, 01:05:09 AM
Dustin,

As I've already said elsewhere... you of all people are to be congratulated and commended this month.  You have a Mayor's Diary that is hotter than my ex-girlfriend... you've managed to be the front person for not one, but two, large voting polls in the Picture and MD categories... you maintain the statistics for all the MDs here... you've been "promoted"... and now you're going to give us at least one picture every single day for the next month!  And I thought I was busy?!?  I appreciate all you efforts here (and for the site in general) and I'm honored to share this month with you.

Today's picture (well... yesterday's for you by now!) is a nice one.  It looks like a suburban office park... but it's hard to say for sure in such a tight shot.  Either way, the buildings go together very well.  I'm already looking forward to tomorrow's (today's?) picture!

Congratulations again, my friend!
JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 02, 2008, 03:30:56 AM
I'll add my official congratulations and heartfelt thanks, Dustin. You're largely responsible for what must be the greatest month in SC4D history, or pretty darn close. Trouble is, I don't think most folks appreciate all you do because you make everything run so smoothly. But you can be sure your hard work is noticed.

As for Marathon, I've followed it from square one and I'm firmly hooked. You have some wonderful ideas, and I'm anxious to see how all this plays out. November was fabulous, and it looks like December is going to be right up there in the clouds, too!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 02, 2008, 08:01:19 AM
Congratulations for being in the OSITM for December 08! &apls &apls

And the first update there on the first day is great!!
Looking forward to the next update... ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 02, 2008, 01:38:23 PM
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Adam (Ennedi): Hi, Adam! I don't know about Enter the Dragon—perhaps Bloodsport, though. I'm not on that Bruce Lee level, yet, but maybe I've reached the Jean-Claude Van Damme level! Thank you so much for all your support, my friend!

Dan (dsrwhat316): It is a bit of a daunting task, I'll say! But, with a bit of planning, I think I'll be able to pull it off. And where I said "think," please read "hope!" Take care!

Karin (Lilojame): Hello, Karin! Thank you so much!

Pat: Thank you, my friend! I know you'll be here every day! In fact, I'm counting on it! Can't wait to see you here again!

Robin (rooker1): Thanks, Robin! And I forgot about the surprise—I need to get that ironed out! Thanks for stopping in, my friend!

bluesinjid: Thanks!

David (dedgren): Thanks for the ribbon, David! It's good to see you around here, and when you're giving a ribbon, well, that's even better! Hope all is well with you!

Robin (rooker1): The ribbon does make it official, doesn't it? Thanks again!

Eblem (Heblem): Thank you!

Jon (JBSimio): Thank you very much, Jon! Things have been pretty hectic for me, I'll admit. But having a touch of insomnia helps, and believe me, it's all worth it! Thanks for stopping by, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): Thank you, Joan, I mean it. Your kind words and support mean so much to me, both here and Marathon, and everywhere else! And I'm not the only one responsible for the great things happening around here—I believe your hands have been in many a project, too! So give yourself a round of applause, my friend!

bat: Thank you, bat!



Well...

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DECEMBER 2

...number two!

A proper update shall be forthcoming, I'm working on it this afternoon!

Until then, my friends, thank you for the outpouring of support and well wishes!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 02, 2008, 01:43:21 PM
WOW.... :o....
Do you really have that much traffic on your highways or are you using a trafiic generator?
Great picture my friend. 

Robin
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on December 02, 2008, 02:03:54 PM
3 highway ? wow ! splendid downtown there Dustin, great work  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: CasperVg on December 02, 2008, 02:05:27 PM
Well, I've been a little hesitant from posting something here, but I must say I have enjoyed reading and watching through the work you have done and the pictures you have posted. I am not surprised to see the impressive growth your Mayor Diary has had since it has started, since, and I'm sure everyone agrees, it looks splendid.

I must say that the highway you have shown in this picture looks great, granted that it is perhaps just a tad unrealistic, due to the game's limitations. It's surroundings look great, and fit together nicely. The custom content you have chosen to use to build up this picture are tastefully correspondent, and to me exhale some sort of absolute soberness, yet, I think thanks to the colorful cars in the on the multiple motorways, the picture attracts me in a very special way, which I find hard to describe.

Greetings,
Casper

P.S.: Almost forgot about it, congratulations on the OSITM-entry and the Mayor Diary award. Both are well deserved.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on December 02, 2008, 02:12:17 PM
I've heard of dual highways before, but I believe that this is the first time I have seen a triple highway used.  I look forward to seeing where that goes one of these days.  Of course, your December 1 shot is really nice.  The buildings go together quite well.  I see that you are using your OSITM time wisely.  I look forward to tomorrow's pic.  Great job, Dustin!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on December 02, 2008, 03:17:48 PM
 &apls &apls Mmm. Great teaser and congrats for thr OSITM . It`s your month Dustin  :D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on December 02, 2008, 06:44:58 PM
Hey Dustin, # 2 and waiting for number 3 lol... Liking the traffic you got there!!! I see what looks like the West End Flag if I am not mistaken?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Heblem on December 02, 2008, 06:56:11 PM
That highway reminds me to LA  ;D great job!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 02, 2008, 06:59:39 PM
Nice urban view, Dustin. A bit too crowded for my taste ::), but the scene is a good one just the same. I'd love to see a view of that whole triple-highway transit complex from beginning to end.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [12/03/08]: UPDATE IX: More About Marathon, Part I
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 02, 2008, 08:58:31 PM
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Robin (rooker1): Hi, Robin! That's a traffic generator. You can see the tell-tales signs—clumps of cars, followed by empty spaces. I use them a lot, actually. Thanks for coming by!

Arthur (art128): Thank you, my friend!

Casper (caspervg): Thanks for stopping in, Casper—Welcome to Marathon! Thank you for your very detailed comments, my friend! I appreciate your input!

metarvo: Thanks, my friend! Don't worry, we'll be seeing more of the triple highways, as well as where they lead! Take care!

kimcar: Thanks so much for your support!

Pat: Thanks, my friend! Actually, the flags you see are those of the Province of Québec (the blue one) and the City of Montréal (the white), as well as the Canadian flag. The building is Place Ville-Marie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Place_Ville-Marie) in Montréal.

Eblem (Heblem): Thank you! All the lanes and traffic does look like Los Angeles!

Joan (Jmouse): Thank you, Joan! Personally, I'm a fan of crowded urban areas, but I'm a fan of a good rural area, too! And like I said to our friend metarvo, we'll ve seeing more of those highways and where they lead in the future. Take care, Joan!



UPDATE IX
More About Marathon
Part I: History—From Introduction to War...

2 December 2008

Be patient...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 02, 2008, 09:59:49 PM
/wrrd%&.....just kidding, although I do remember falling asleep in history class.  ::)  ;)

 Really just kidding. 
 That was one great piece of colourful history. 
 I think it's really cool how you added your island to the real world and have been able to make up a very interesting historical story.  I can't wait to hear the rest and how you bring us up to the present.
 After reading the history lesson, I now have a really cool idea on what you can do in LE for the sea wall pieces.  I wonder if you are thinking the same things I am.  I will be looking for some props tomorrow and we can speak more than, if I can find them.  ::)

Robin  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on December 03, 2008, 04:18:49 AM
Hi there!

I loved the previous picture and how full the highways were.
And this update is fabulous, very well written and nice pictures accompanying it.
Great work!

Have fun,
Karin ()borg()
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on December 03, 2008, 06:19:34 AM
Hi Dustin  :)

First:

Congratulation for your award, this is totally deserved

Second:
The teaser (of December 02) is incredible, the highways look stange but finally it's looking superb and réalistic, and also your city is fantastic  &apls

The update IX is looking very good, very good history.  :thumbsup:
I'm looking forward to the next update my friend
Take care, David ::)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on December 03, 2008, 07:00:31 AM
Ah! ! there's just the island yet !!
I think you will create the other parts of the region ?
You have chose a great emplacement for your region Dustin.  :thumbsup:
Can't wait to see more !
Arthur.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on December 03, 2008, 07:53:26 AM
Congratulations on OSITM and Best in Recently Published, Dustin!

 &apls

This is an excellent history lesson, Dustin.  That island to the east of Marathon's mainland does look familiar. :)  It is good to see CoM put into perspective with the rest of the world, which makes it more believable.  I'm ready for more. 
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 03, 2008, 09:23:04 AM
Nice historical update there of Marathon! :thumbsup:
Looking forward to more...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: flyinbird93 on December 03, 2008, 10:11:56 AM
great story!  Nice cj, i really enjoyed what you have so far.  wonderful work, cant wait for more :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 03, 2008, 11:07:26 AM
Wonderful presentation of Marathon's colorful history. Both the maps and the background story lend a sense of credibility often lacking in MDs. Besides, it makes for a darn good read! :thumbsup:

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: CasperVg on December 03, 2008, 12:38:53 PM
Hehe,

I postponed reading this update until I had finished my History Exams today, as I wasn't certain if I would be mixing things up in the end, judging from the realism you have put into this update.

Rest assured, I like updates with a lot of text more than those without it, and I have certainly enjoyed reading through it all. The pictures you have added to the text keep it interesting, while the maps provided an easy to way to geographically keep track of what's being said.

Perfect.

Casper
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 03, 2008, 12:58:20 PM
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Robin (rooker1): Wake up! Heh—don't worry, Robin, I understand completely. History can be a bit, sleep-inducing! Thanks for you comments, and I can't wait to hear what you have planned for the seawalls. I'll be signing on to MSN any minute now...

Karin (Lilojame): Thank you so much, Karin! I'm happy to hear that your enjoyed them!

David (Simpson): Wow, thank you, my friend! Your kind words are very much appreciated!

Arthur (art128): Hi, Arthur! I will be creating other parts of the region, but I haven't gotten that far yet. I have to do a whole lot of pre-planning and planning before I get there. But don't worry, you'll all be included in every step of the way!

metarvo: Thanks, my friend! I'm glad I was able to bring things into perspective. I found it getting a bit more difficult to continue with things without giving that perspective, since stuff that's in my head would have eventually come up with no background. It would have gotten confusing!

bat: Thanks, bat!

flyinbird93: Thank you so much! And welcome!

Joan (Jmouse): Thank you, Joan! The maps, while they were a bit of a pain to put together, were also a lot of fun to create. I always loved the maps in history books that portrayed battles and wars, and that was my inspiration. Thanks for coming by!

Casper (caspervg): Ha! Waiting until after your exams was definitely a good idea! I know from prior experience that too many facts can make your brain overload, and to add in a bunch of fictional ones—well, that would have been a recipe for disaster! Thank you for stopping in and for your wonderful comments, my friend! Hope to see you around soon!



Moving on...

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DECEMBER 3

...here's today's picture!

I have a few different ideas for the next update, though I'm not quite sure which direction I'll be headed. Don't worry, though—the next part of the history won't be for a little bit!

Thanks for all the support!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on December 03, 2008, 01:11:53 PM
Hi there again!
This gold course looks really nice. Even if I don't play golf (just occasionally mini golf) I would love to start playing in there. Anyhow, a very nice update!

See you tomorrow,
Karin ()borg()
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on December 03, 2008, 01:25:15 PM
Dustin, those golf course look good my friend  &apls
Great choice of trees  :thumbsup:
Arthur.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on December 03, 2008, 01:28:20 PM
Nice work on the 3 pics for December so far Dustin.  Each one brings something different to the party.  Love the traffic shot and the golf course tells me that maybe West End and Marathon are gonna have to have some sort of golf comp of some sort - especially as your players won the trophy last time we tussled  ::)

Good luck with your punishing schedule of updates  :)

Paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 04, 2008, 10:30:23 AM
The picture for 3rd December is looking great! Wonderful work on that part! Looking forward to more... ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on December 04, 2008, 10:44:19 AM
Wow, nice teaser Dustin  :)
The golf is really good and réalistic (where did you take it?), The city looks super  &apls
ALso the nam curves are, here, incredible. It's more réalistic  :thumbsup:
Looking forward to the next update my friend  :)

David  ::)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on December 04, 2008, 11:07:03 AM
I'm not really a golfer, but that does look like a good place to play.  I can see that you're making the most of your OSITM time, Dustin.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: flyinbird93 on December 04, 2008, 11:26:33 AM
nice teaser, it looks beautiful (im allowed to use that work right? :-p)!  and thanks for the warm welcome!  cant wait to see what you have for us the next 31 days!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 04, 2008, 02:18:12 PM
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Karin (Lilojame): Thank you, Karin! I used to play golf quite regularly, but haven't played in a while. Talk about a frustrating sport! Take care, my friend!

Arthur (art128): Thanks so much, Arthur!

Paul (paroch): Hey, Paul! I smell a Skins game between WEST END and Marathon brewing! $500 a hole sound right? Thanks for dropping by, my friend!

bat: Thanks, my friend!

David (Simpson): Thank you, David! When you ask, "Where do you take it?" Do you mean, where did I find the golf course lots? Those can be found on the STEX—ArtGolf Golf Course (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=2643) by doctorgonzo. Or did you mean, where did I get the inspiration? Well, to answer that one, there's two golf courses about 15-20 minutes from my home, and I guess I took a bit of inspiration from them. Otherwise, it was just plop and see what looked good! Hope I answered your question, my friend!

metarvo: Thanks, my friend! And it's OK that you're not a golfer, it's a tough sport to stick with! I haven't played in over a year or so, either!

flyinbird93: Thanks for coming by, my friend! Hope to see you back again!



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And for today's picture, we have—

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DECEMBER 4

A bit of an industrial shot! I'm a huge fan of the Logistics Centers (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=16119), made by cogeo, and love to use them whenever I can!

The reversed Maersk-Sealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maersk_Sealand) logo on the blue building is a tell-tale sign of the "Flip Canvas Horizontal" trick in Photoshop, too. I try to avoid that whenever possible, but it seems I missed it this time. Shame, too—the Maersk-Sealand one is my favorite!

I've got a bit of an update in the works, maybe later tonight, definitely by tomorrow, though.

Thanks for coming by!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 04, 2008, 02:25:03 PM
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Awesome picture, I want to see more of this area, please. 
This is definately my favourite picture of your Decmeber count down so far.  &apls
The golf course was very good as well, but the picture seemed to be washed out.  But the golf course itself reminds me of summer and the last time I golfed.
Great work and only 240 more posts to Classics.  ::)  ()stsfd()

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on December 04, 2008, 02:29:00 PM
OMG.  :o
Dustin; It's just splendid, incredible pic, I love.  &apls

Really excellent work, just realistic.
Just I want a new pic.

(hard rock hallelujah .....)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on December 04, 2008, 02:41:31 PM
Dustin, no surprise Marathon is in OSITM. I loved the recent history update and the recent pictures are great (as are all the prior ones), that rail yard looks like it just stretches on for a while. Sorry I haven't commented here in a while, but I'll certainly try to get around more often.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 04, 2008, 04:08:35 PM
Hi Dustin,

I managed to miss a couple of great pictures and a fantastic history lesson.  Sorry about that... but I did have my reasons.  Regardless, the history update was wonderful!   &apls  I've enjoyed all the daily pictures so far, but I think today's might be my favorite to date.  (Not really sure why, but it is.)

Until next time,
JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 04, 2008, 05:00:11 PM
Oh yes, I like this one. Colorful, busy looking and just an all-round good photo.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on December 04, 2008, 09:50:03 PM
Hi Dustin!
A very busy looking picture there and darn, it does look good as everybody before me stated. Am I right to think that you "forget" to turn off the grid? But even so, the picture still looks really awesome. Even the slight crispiness becomes it very nicely. Great work!  &apls

See you soon,
Karin ()borg()
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 05, 2008, 01:38:19 AM
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Robin (rooker1): Thanks, Robin! I like this one a lot, too. Like I said, those Logistics Centres are great!

Earth quake: Thanks, my friend!

Matt (threestooges): Hello, my friend! No worries! I'm glad that you enjoyed the history, and I hope to see you around again!

Jon (JBSimio): That's OK, Jon! We've all got too many things to do, right? Thanks for your kind words, my friend, and for coming by!

Joan (Jmouse): Thanks so much, Joan!

Karin (Lilojame): Wow, the grid is on! I completely missed that! I am disappointed in myself, I always make a conscious effort to check for that. Oh, well—Better luck next time! Thanks for dropping in!



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It's 2:30 AM here in the northeastern United States, so I thought I'd get today's picture out of the way before heading to bed...

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DECEMBER 5

Just another cityscape shot from around the Central Marathon Bus Terminal that I showed a while back. Another one of those Flip Canvas Horizontal deals...have to learn some new tricks!

Update will definitely be today. Definitely.

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on December 05, 2008, 03:41:48 AM
Hi Dustin! (I hope you are having sweet dreams.)

It happen to everyone at one time or another. Besides, it didn't ruined the picture and is not so visible.  ;) As for todays picture, it looks very nice, yet again.

Looking forward to the update!

Your Truly,
Karin ()borg()
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 05, 2008, 06:35:54 AM
Great pictures there for both days!! It's wonderful!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 05, 2008, 06:43:21 AM
Sweet shot my friend. (No grid on)  $%Grinno$%
Ah, good catch Karin, I had missed that the grid was on.  Shame on you Dustin, I take back what I said, "Awesome picture", now it's just great. :D ;) Great works as always and Don't worry you can't remember everything all the time.
See you later today for the next update.
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: flyinbird93 on December 05, 2008, 11:01:50 AM
greay pic for the day!  youve got me tuned it cant wait for more!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on December 05, 2008, 01:55:37 PM
Hi Dustin

Teaser of December 4; this is looking superb my friend, as well, you have done a really fine work in this area  &apls
Teaser of December 5; one of the best american city I've ever seen, this is really perfect  :thumbsup: :o

I'm looking forward to the next update of today my friend ::)

Take care, David
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on December 05, 2008, 02:10:35 PM
Splendid work on the downtown my friend, great choice of towers &apls
And the Logistics Centers's teaser is really awesome !  :thumbsup: great use of theme !
Arthur
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: projectadam on December 05, 2008, 03:47:14 PM
Dustin,

Excellent updates for the month! I really enjoyed the history update that was done on the second. I have a question that I have been wondering about recently. You have pictures of buildings in your updates but you also showed your transportation of the entire island without any buildings so I was wondering, do you have two regions? One from the very start and the other is used just for the building shots or do you delete everything after a building shot? Keep up the great work for the month.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [12/05/08]: UPDATE X: You're So FAR(R) Away From Me
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 05, 2008, 03:58:48 PM
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Karin (Lilojame): Hello, Karin! Thank you for the sweet dreams wish! I slept quite well, aside from the puppy licking my ears every once in a while! And thank you for your kinds words, as always, too!

bat: Thank you so much, my friend!

Robin (rooker1): I'm pretty annoyed that I didn't catch that grid! I was going to enter that one in the Picture Competition, but not now! Thanks for stopping in, Robin! It's always a pleasure to see you here!

flyinbird93: Thanks!

David (Simpson): Thank so much, David! Your support is very much appreciated!

Arthur (art128): Thanks again, Arthur, for your comments, and for coming by!

projectadam: Hello, my friend! Thanks for your kind words! To answer your question—I have multiple duplicates of the region, just so I can be prepared for any contingency. I can get a bit confusing at times, but for the most part I keep things straight in my head! For some teasers, I just open up any blank tile and build away, then delete it. It gives me a bit more freedom to play around, and also gives me ideas for when it's time to build different parts of the region. I hope that answers your question! Take care!



UPDATE X
You're So FAR(R) Away From Me
5 December 2008

Our good friend Karin (Lilojame) asked me a question via PM about the smooth road curves that were used in the golf course shot on December 3 (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg205194#msg205194).

So, in lieu of what I had originally planned for the next update, I decide to do a preemptive update, touching on these curves. A few of them are available in the current version of the NAM (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=851). However, a majority of them are a part of a project called the Fractional Angle Roads (FAR) and Fractional Angle Railroads (FARR), put together over at 3RR (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=112.0) by our good friend David (dedgren).

QUICK NOTE: The FAR/FARR is currently not available for public use. However, public BETA testing has been on-going since the project started, and if you are interested, feel free to contact David (dedgren) about whether it is still available for testing. This is not a guarantee that it is still available for testing. Only David can answer that question.

With that out of the way, we'll begin!

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Here's the pieces of the FAR, exactly as they labels show them in the game:

1. Road S-Curve (available in the NAM)
2. Road 45-Curve (available in the NAM)
3. Road 90-Curve (Small)
4. Road 90-Curve (Large) (available in the NAM)
5. Fractional Angle Road--Short Curve
6. Fractional Angle Road--Long Curve
7. Fractional Angle Road--Straight Piece
8. At-Grade Intersection: Fractional Angle Road (FAR) / Orthogonal Rail

First, we'll look at the curves that are available in the current NAM.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10003.jpg)

One issue to pay attention to is the placing of the small 90° curve. As the picture above illustrates, the game forces you to leave a one-tile space between the beginning of the curve and the road where you left off when plopping. Not a big deal, just something to keep in mind!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10004.jpg)

Here's a shot of all the NAM pieces in use, with them all labeled. NOTE: The trees and lamp posts surrounding the curves are not part of the curves themselves, but the work a mod by sithlrd98—the name of which escapes me presently. It's available on the STEX, so a quick search will take care of it for you! Sorry!

Now we move on to the pieces of the FAR!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10005.jpg)

Here is the FAR Long (left) and Short (right) Curves placed, prior to any further connections.

Then...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10006.jpg)

...with the menu on, we show the procedure for FAR Straight Piece placement.

And...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10007.jpg)

...the FAR pieces in game, along with corresponding labels! Sorry for not connecting the rail, I forgot about the piece and threw it in there at the last minute!

Another thing to watch out for—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10008.jpg)

Be careful when using the Bulldoze Tool around the curves, as you may accidentally encounter the above!

Another caveat (grid on purposely...) is that the guide tends to disappear...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10009.jpg)

...when building on slopes, but again, nothing of major concern, just to be aware of!

The Fractional Angle Railroads (FARR) function exactly like their automobile counterparts...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10002.jpg)

As with the FAR, here are the FARR pieces as they are labeled in game:

1. Rail S-Curve (available in the NAM)
2. Rail 45-Curve (available in the NAM)
3. Rail 90-Curve (may be available in the current NAM, maybe not. I'm not sure on this one)
4. Fractional Angle Railroad-Short Curve
5. Fractional Angle Railroad-Long Curve
6. Fractional Angle Railroad-Straight Piece
7. At-Grade Crossing: Fractional Angle Railroad (FARR) / Orthogonal Road

The procedure for placement is also the same.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10010.jpg)

The picture above shows the NAM curve pieces in use, along with the labels as before, and...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10012.jpg)

...the pieces of the FARR in use, too.

Same caveats as the FAR apply...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10011.jpg)

...but as I said, no major cause for concern.

Of course, all this procedure would be for naught if we didn't show the fruits of it!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10013.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10014.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10015.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10016.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10017.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10018.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10019.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10020.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2010/10021.jpg)

Some of those are new pictures that I was playing around with in the game, and some are beta test shots that I took for 3RR that I then "Marathon-ized."

Finally...

http://www.youtube.com/v/MK5FHAmkvs0&hl=en&fs=1
"So Far Away" by Dire Straits. Brothers in Arms, 1985.

Once again, a song in my head while playing...Gave me the title for this update and all!

Thanks for coming by!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 05, 2008, 05:50:16 PM
Wonderful update, Dustin!   &apls

First, I really enjoyed today's (although it was still yesterday for another 30 minutes over here) picture.  It appears that you have quite a variety of buildings and styles going on in Marathon.  I'm eagerly awaiting the moment you show us how they all fit together.

As for the FAR(R) update... again, very nice!  (needless to say, really!)  The pictures of it in action are beautiful.  I especially like the one with the bridge and the one directly above it, but they're all truly great pictures.  (any of which would surely do well in that little competition you may have heard of)

Til next time,
JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 05, 2008, 06:00:27 PM
Straightforward - and helpful - demonstration on how to use the sometimes-confusing FAR/FARR pieces, Dustin. Some of the arrangements I've tried look like they were laid out on a cocktail napkin during a boisterous party for "free-thinking" engineers, but that part of the fun! ::) The last half dozen shots look very realistic and make me even more anxious to get back into the game.

Thanks for the explanation...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on December 05, 2008, 10:10:36 PM
Hi Dustin, my friend!
I have to say that you have 2 things in your plugins folder that I am dying to get my hands on.  :D So, in my opinion your are very fortunate to have them. ;)
The presentation of the FARR pieces was very interesting (and the "watch out for" shall be very useful for when FARR actually comes out). What I am wondering right now is... why the heck didn't I noticed the pieces that are in the NAM... I need to go in game and find those. ???
And now to the pictures at the end... they are all fabulous and they remind me on how the roads are layed out here in my country. I cant decide wich one would be my favorite since every single one looks great.
So, to sum everything up, you are doing a great job in this special time and todays update was again masterly done!

See you,
Karin ()borg()
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: sim-al2 on December 05, 2008, 10:26:16 PM
The 90° Rail-Curve is not available in the current NAM. Other than that detail, your small eyecandy update is a very nice visual presentation. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 06, 2008, 05:16:59 AM
Nice work there with the FAR and FARR!!!
Wonderful pictures of your work, too!
Looking forward to more... ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 06, 2008, 11:48:31 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Jon (JBSimio): Ahhh, the moment they all fit together...I'm waiting for that moment as well! I just hope they actually do fit together! But, hey—if not, we'll think of something, right? Thanks so much for your great comments, Jon. I appreciate you taking the time to stop by very much, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! I found the FAR/R a bit daunting when I first started playing with it, as well. I guess I'm like that with anything new until I get the hang of it, though. Now, it's like a walk in the park! And I know what you mean about the strange networks, too—I've found myself making the most radical set-ups, just to see what it can do. Thanks for stopping in, my friend, and I hope your weekend goes well!

Karin (Lilojame): Hello, my friend! Actually, when I replied to your PM, I completely forgot to mention that some of them were in the NAM. Sorry about that, if slipped my mind! I hope the update was able to answer your questions, though! Take care!

sim-al2: Thanks for that information! I wasn't sure if it was or not...now I know! I'll make the change in the update to reflect it. Thanks again!

bat: Thank you, so much, my friend!



Heading out to get the Christmas tree this afternoon, so I'll likely be away for a while. So, without further delay...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Dec11.jpg)
DECEMBER 6

Playing with some diagonals a bit. I really love the Jean Canfield Building (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1766), made by spa—the one on the far left. It'll be popping up again probably in different places and contexts, I just love how it looks!

Enjoy your Saturday!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on December 06, 2008, 11:53:32 AM
The last update is very good
Nam curves are fantastic, it's more réalistic.
The last picture is incredible, as well my friend.
Looking forward to the next update
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 06, 2008, 12:11:27 PM
Great picture again, Dustin!   &apls  (especially that pharmacy on the corner... :D )

I also really like that building by Spa.  As a matter of fact, you'll probably be able to see it along High Point Road sometime this month!  ;)

Enjoy the tree!
JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: CasperVg on December 06, 2008, 12:44:33 PM
Oh yes, the Jean Canfield building is a real beauty. Good choice, I must say.
The FAR(R) Walkthrough was very informative. I am wondering if I could copy it to the Wiki as a tutorial, with credit and a link given, of course.

I can't wait for December 7, and 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.. Well, it's too bad December has to end someday,

Casper
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on December 06, 2008, 01:12:20 PM
dustin great updates here again wow!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on December 06, 2008, 01:16:38 PM
Excellent, Dustin! You have presented us another fantastic teaser, per the usual at CoM.  I definitely approve of diagonals.  When used correctly, they add so much detail and variety to a city.  For an example of this, please view the CoM Teaser shot posted on December 6, 2008.  :)

 &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: flyinbird93 on December 06, 2008, 04:51:03 PM
that looks great!  my fav is the yellow ones :D  great pic for the day cant wait to see your next one :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 06, 2008, 10:59:01 PM
Oh yes, you're venturing into some unusual building combinations and, not surprisingly, making them look great. I like the trees in the upper center - they break up the "brick-and-concrete jungle!"

See ya' tomorrow...

Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bluesinjid on December 06, 2008, 11:07:27 PM
Mna lovew that building too! Always love ur photoshopping! &apls &apls &apls &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on December 07, 2008, 12:45:05 AM
Hi Dustin!
Another nice picture up there, my friend! I liked it a lot and yes, the update was very informative, thank you again!

See you later!
Karin ()borg()
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on December 07, 2008, 02:41:10 AM
Hi Dustin,

It's hard to keep up with the speed of your updates at the moment!  I'm impressed with your "31 days" pictures - each one is showing us a different element of your SC4 skills, and showing them off very well indeed if I may say.

Your use of FARR is superb and you've certainly got the diagonals cracked as well!

Great stuff and I suspect more to come.

All the best

Paul

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on December 07, 2008, 04:45:32 AM
Dustin, your use of the FAR/FARR is splendid!
and the use of diagonals BATs and W2W is superb my friend, great work  &apls
Arthur.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 07, 2008, 12:37:25 PM
That's a great picture for that day! And looking forward to the today's update...
Nice work...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 07, 2008, 02:08:16 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

David (Simpson): Thank you so much, David!

Jon (JBSimio): Like I said, I'm with you on the Canfield Building—and all of them by spa, actually. I can't wait to see how it turns up on High Point Road, too! Your work always inspires me! Take care, my friend!

Casper (caspervg): Thank you so much your kind words, and the offer to have the FAR/R update in the Wiki as a tutorial! Consider this an open approval to use anything from Marathon you see fit in the Wiki, as I'd love to help out wherever I can! You're doing a such a wonderful service to the community, both there and here at SC4D. Thanks so much!

Pat: Thanks, my friend!

metarvo: Hey, thanks! I have a bit of trouble with the diagonals, if I'm honest. It takes a bit of playing around with them for me to come up with something I'm happy with, but I think I'm getting the hang of it now! It's always great to see you here—thanks for coming by and for your wonderful comments!

flyinbird93: Thank you!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! I find that the placement of trees in certain places is essential for bringing life to what could otherwise be a dull picture. Granted, I'm not saying that I know what I'm doing or anything like that! I'm merely trying to emulate some of the fine work that can be seen all over SC4D. Thanks so much for your continued support, Joan—it means a lot to me!

bluesinjid: Thank you, bluesinjid! I appreciate it!

Karin (Lilojame): Thanks, Karin! It's always a pleasure when you stop by Marathon!

Paul (paroch): Hi there, Paul! It is kind of hard to keep up with the whole "31 Days..." thing. I find myself trying to keep track of what's going on! Thanks for coming in and expressing such kind words, my friend! Hope to see you around again soon!

Arthur (art128): Thanks so much, Arthur! I'm glad you enjoyed them!

bat: Danke, my friend!



We'll get today's picture out of the way...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Dec07.jpg)
DECEMBER 7

I thought I'd throw a mosaïc in for good measure!

We recently crossed the 5000 view plateau here in Marathon, with barely a month under our belts, and we're edging ever closer to 300 comments, as well.

I know that I've said it before, but you guys are the greatest! All the support that I've gotten here on a daily basis is absolutely overwhelming, I just wish I knew of a way to repay each and every one of you for it! Thank you all so very, very much!

Tomorrow, I have a bit of a surprise that I hope everyone will enjoy, so stay tuned!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 07, 2008, 02:36:23 PM
Terrific work, Dustin! You've really made those farms come alive. I'd love to know what custom farms you're using...

Keep up the fantastic work!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on December 07, 2008, 03:14:35 PM
I can tell you exactly how you can repay me, Dustin.  Just keep up the good work in here, and that will be enough for me.  :)  You are really getting the hang of mosaics, if I do say so myself.

 &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 07, 2008, 03:23:38 PM
Dustin,
 
 It seems I have missed a few updates, but with good reason.  I have been playing outside in the snow with the kids, we put up the Christmas tree and all the other decoration, and basically just doing family time.
 I must say that the pictures are incredible are you didn't need me to tell you that, just look at the huge amount of replies and you'll see that everyone else agrees with me.
 I look forward to tomorrow's surprise.
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on December 08, 2008, 12:39:31 AM
Love the mosaic there, my friend! I am glad to see that you are using your OSITM time extremely well! :thumbsup: Mmmm, a surprise?! I love surprises (well ok, just the good ones ;) ) and therefore I shall definitely be back for more of your great work!

Have fun,
Karin ()borg()
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: flyinbird93 on December 08, 2008, 09:33:51 AM
yw, and great pic for the day.  kind of reminds me of kansas witha lot of open field and wild flowers.  cant wait for the next one!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 08, 2008, 10:54:18 AM
Nice picture there, Dustin! It is looking really wonderful!

And one more reply for 300!!! And congrats for over 5000 views...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: homefryes on December 08, 2008, 11:11:57 AM
Ooh, I've never been a double-zero replier before, so hopefully (if someone doesn't beat me), this will be my first! This is some beautiful work here, Thundercrack83. Keep it up!

— Don
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 08, 2008, 11:27:32 AM
Well-done mosaic, Dustin. It isn't easy to make fields look that neat! Good use of the seasonal trees, too.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on December 08, 2008, 04:22:40 PM
Sorry to had miss some update. Your city still very nice and great pics that you show &apls &apls. Have fun  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 08, 2008, 05:28:16 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Zack (woodb3kmaster): Thanks, my friend! I'm not sure, but you may be able to find those farms on the 3RR Exchange (3RREX) (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=5603.0), though I haven't checked for certain. Thanks for coming by!

metarvo: If that's all you want as repayment, I will do my best to oblige! Thank so much for your continued support, my friend!

Robin (rooker1): No problem, Robin! I just returned from doing some Christmas shopping, so I know how the season can liven things up! I hope the boys are having a blast in the snow! This time of year was always my favorite as a child. Hope all is well, Robin!

Karin (Lilojame): Hi, Karin! Surprise time is almost here! I hope you enjoy it!

flyinbird93: Thanks! I've never been to Kansas—One day, though, I hope! Take care!

bat: Thanks so much, bat!

Don (homefryes): #300 is all yours, my friend! What a great welcome to Marathon for you! And, you may call me Dustin, if you'd like! Hope to see you around here more often!

Joan (Jmouse): Thanks, Joan! I'm a novice at the farm stuff, so I'll probably show more of it as my skills progress. Always good to see you here!

kimcar: No worries about missing things, my friend! It's great to see you here, no matter when it is! Thanks for coming by!



First—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Dec10.jpg)
DECEMBER 8

Today's picture!



Now, we move on to this surprise I've been talking about, though I'm not sure if everyone is going to like it...

Well, as a special treat for being in OSITM this month, I thought I would take a cue from my good friend Robin (rooker1) and come up with some kind of game for everyone to play.

So here it is...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Jeopardy.jpg)

...That's right—we're going to play Jeopardy!

What I've done is taken categories and clues from old episodes of Jeopardy! and we'll play here just like on television, though with a few changes to make it work, obviously!

Here's how it works...

There will be three rounds, the Jeopardy! round from December 8 - December 12, the Double Jeopardy! round from December 15 - December 19, and Final Jeopardy!, which I'll explain more in-depth below.

The first two rounds are the same—five categories, each with one clue per day. The players will have 24 hours to answer, and the first person to post and get a question right gets the corresponding dollar amount. You can try to answer them all in one shot to get all the money, or you can answer the ones you know right away and try to get the others later. Just be reminded that the first person to answer a certain question gets the money! Edited posts will be disqualified! I will keep a running track of how much money each contestant has (anyone can be a contestant!) and post it with each daily round.

If you see someone has answered all five questions, don't give up and try to answer yourself—they may be wrong somewhere!

For Final Jeopardy!, there will be three categories, each with one clue, and each contestant will have a period of 24 hours to make a wager (the most you can bet is your total winnings), based on the three categories. If you answer all three correct, you will have 100% of your wager added to your total. If you answer two correct, you'll have 60% added, and 30% added for one correct. If you answer all three incorrect you, get nothing added on.

The person with the most money at the end of Final Jeopardy! wins the game, as well as a copy of the SC4D LEX DVD (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6314.msg200287;topicseen#msg200287), compliments of me!

Obviously, you can look the answers up on the Internet, but come on—that takes the fun out of it!

And of course, don't forget to put your answer in the form of a question!

Here we go! Good luck!

[tabular type=5]
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[head colspan=3]
MONDAY, DECEMBER 8[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[head][/head]
[head][/head]
[head]
____________________________________________________________[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$200[/data]
[data]
WORLD
CITIES[/data]
[data]In 1932, Cholon was combined with this city in Vietnam's Mekong delta[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$400[/data]
[data]
RUSSIAN FIRST
NAME'S THE SAME[/data]
[data]Pavlov, Turgenev[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$600[/data]
[data]
SOUNDS LIKE
AN ARMY UNIT[/data]
[data]An infamous group of urban terrorists called themselves "The Red" this[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$800[/data]
[data]
NAME THE
AUTHOR[/data]
[data]The Andromeda Strain, Jurassic Park[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[data]
NORTHERNMOST
CAPITAL CITY[/data]
[data]Lagos, Algiers, Mogadishu[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

CATEGORY EXPLANATIONS
For "Russian First Name's the Same," we've given you two last names of people who have the same first name. Give us that first name.
For "Northernmost Capital City," give the capital city that is the furthest north on the map.



We passed 300 replies today, too! I keep saying it, but thank you all so much!

And don't worry, Jeopardy! won't get in the way of the regularly-scheduled events her in Marathon!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 08, 2008, 05:41:41 PM
Hey Dustin,
Awesome picture for today.

Jeopardy, what a great surprising idea.

I'll give the first on a try.
What is Saigon?

The rest look a little too hard for me.  I have never really watched Jeopardy.  I should give it a try some time.

Robin  ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 08, 2008, 06:05:05 PM
For $400: Who is Ivan?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on December 08, 2008, 06:44:23 PM
Great pictures there thundercrack... and congratulations for your award, your building technique is awesome and the level of deatil and realism is superb. And now, the game... finally someone posts a game that I like: about general culture... let me see if I get some of then right..  ;D

For $200: What is Ho chi Minh?
For $400: Who is Ivan?
For $600: I don't know... let's take a guess... I think it's something from Asia or so... let's say: What is Khmer Rouge?
For $800:without a doubt: What is Algiers?

Anyway, as always, great work and the best of lucks for this magnificent MD

Alan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 08, 2008, 11:08:39 PM
Good idea throwing a game into your MD, Dustin! There's nothing like giving people an incentive to post. Anyway, here are my answers:

$800: Who is Michael Crichton?
$1000: What is Algiers?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 08, 2008, 11:58:09 PM
We're getting close! Here's some correct answers...


$200: Robin (rooker1), What is Saigon?
$400: Joan (Jmouse), What is Ivan?
$600: No correct answers, yet.
$800: Zack (woodb3kmaster), Who is Michael Crichton?
$1000: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Algiers?

alan_vzla: Hi, my friend—unfortunately, your first two answers were already taken, and you accidentally answered Algiers for the $800 question instead of the $1000 one. Don't worry, though! You'll have plenty of time to get on the board!

QUICK CLARIFICATION: For the category "Sounds Like a Army Unit," the answer will be a word that is also used as a unit for troops in the military—e.g. squad, detachment, etc.

More from Marathon to come!

Good luck!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 09, 2008, 12:30:36 AM
For $600: What is The Red Army Faction?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on December 09, 2008, 12:32:11 AM
DARN!!! Joan beat me at it, lol...

Wonderful idea there Dustin and the picture looks superb!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on December 09, 2008, 01:25:13 AM
Hi Dustin

Congratulation for having more than 300 posts in your super MD

Teaser of December 7: this mosaic is really wonderful my friend, these fields look so réalistic, as well
Teaser of December 8: Fantastic city, the highway look super. Great effect in this picture

So, I'm looking forward to the next update my friend
Take care, David
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on December 09, 2008, 03:23:52 AM
Always impressive to see your work here. I know I mentioned I would be scarce around here (finals and all) but I just stopped by for a quick look before bed. The last farm pic was great and the urban pic for this update is amazing. Great selection of BATs. It looks dense without being overcrowded.

As for the $600 question, What is brigade (The Red Brigade)?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 09, 2008, 07:41:12 AM
Nice work on the newest picture there! Wonderful! :thumbsup:
And nice idea with Jeopardy...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 09, 2008, 03:28:17 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Joan (Jmouse): Sorry, Joan! That's incorrect. Good try, though!

Karin (Lilojame): Don't worry, Karin! You'll have more chances! Thanks for stopping in!

David (Simpson): Hi, David! Thank you so much, I'm glad that you enjoy the teasers!

Matt (threestooges): Hi, Matt! I hope finals are treating you as well as finals can! That's one thing about school that I can safely say I don't miss! As for your answer—Hmmm....

bat: Thanks, bat! It's always great to see you here!



(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Dec09.jpg)
DECEMBER 9

I haven't played a whole lot with canals, but I thought of somewhere they could be useful in Marathon, so there's no time like the present to start practicing, right? I think I need some more practice, though...

Now...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Jeopardy.jpg)

We have all the correct answers!

$200: Robin (rooker1), What is Saigon?
$400: Joan (Jmouse), What is Ivan?
$600: Matt (threestooges), What is Brigade?
$800: Zack (woodb3kmaster), Who is Michael Crichton?
$1000: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Algiers?

He's the current money totals after the first day...

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head]
CONTESTANT[/head]
[head]
WINNINGS[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Zack (woodb3kmaster)[/data]
[data]
$1800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Matt (threestooges)[/data]
[data]
$600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Joan (Jmouse)[/data]
[data]
$400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Robin (rooker1)[/data]
[data]
$200[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

And here's today's round! Good luck!

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head colspan=3]
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 9[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[head][/head]
[head][/head]
[head]
___________________________________________________________________[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$200[/data]
[data]
RUSSIAN FIRST NAME'S THE SAME[/data]
[data]Pasternak, Spassky[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$400[/data]
[data]
SOUNDS LIKE AN ARMY UNIT[/data]
[data]Best Picture Oscar winner for 1986[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$600[/data]
[data]
NAME THE AUTHOR[/data]
[data]Franny and Zooey, A Perfect Day for Bananafish[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$800[/data]
[data]
NORTHERNMOST CAPITAL CITY[/data]
[data]Cairo, Damascus, Amman[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[data]
WORLD CITIES[/data]
[data]You can visit the Museum Carolino-Augusteum as well as Mozart's birthplace in this Austrian city.[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

CATEGORY EXPLANATIONS
For "Russian First Name's the Same," we've given you two last names of people who have the same first name. Give us that first name.
For "Northernmost Capital City," give the capital city that is the furthest north on the map.
For the category "Sounds Like a Army Unit," the answer will be a word that is also used as a unit for troops in the military—e.g. squad, detachment, etc.



An update's in the works, maybe for later tonight, most likely for tomorrow.

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: projectadam on December 09, 2008, 03:48:06 PM
1. Who is Vladamir?
2. What is Platoon?
3. Who is someone I have never had lunch with?
4. What is Amman?
5. What is Salzburg?

---

I should have asked a question before I answered, do you lose money for a wrong answer? You do in Jeopardy but I do not believe it was discussed in the rules. If that is the case I would have not answered the 200, 600 and 800 dollar questions. Either way great idea &apls

EDIT: Hello! I was originally going to have you lose money for the wrong answer, but I'd rather have people play and have fun than worry about losing money and not play. Thanks for coming by and playing, my friend!

NOTE: This edit was made by me in order merge the two posts and keep my post count from running up. Thanks for double-posting instead of editing your post, according to the game rules! - Dustin (thundercrack83)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on December 09, 2008, 03:59:51 PM
Great picture there, the canals seem very nice!

For $200: Who is Boris?
For $600: Who is Slinger?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 09, 2008, 05:14:13 PM
Too busy to play Jeopardy today, but never too busy to stop by and compliment you on another great scene from Marathon. Good use of the canals - I'd think you saw them every day in RL if I didn't know better!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 09, 2008, 07:09:28 PM
$600: Who is J.D. Salinger?
$800: What is Damascus?

EDIT: Hi, Zack! No worries--I edited it for you, so we don't pad my comment count. Thanks for following the game rules, though! - Dustin (thundercrack83)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bluesinjid on December 09, 2008, 09:18:45 PM
hm..could never get jeopardy and never get it here...aNWYAS REALLY NICE SHOTS!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: CasperVg on December 09, 2008, 11:30:23 PM
Well, well well.. Some great pictures here once again. Although you said you haven't played with canals a lot, I must say that you've pinpointed the right looks already. The showcase of Meister-Z's Victoria Gebaude (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=828) remembered me that I still have a partially finished relot of it laying around.. Thanks for that  ::)

Greetings,
Casper

Page 17!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 10, 2008, 12:59:35 AM
I'm not even going to attempt a round of Jeopardy here... but I had to stop by and say that I've loved your last couple of pictures.   &apls

December 8 was a beauty... especially with the building in the lower left fitting so perfectly into the diagonal corner there.  The fact that you made that all work so close to an underground expressway is most impressive and speaks very highly of your city building skills!

Today's picture was also very nice.  I really love the canals and can only wish that I could make them fit in as well as you have.  The row of buildings along the left side of the lower (southern?) canal branch is wonderful but it's the circular building across the way that really makes the picture work in my opinion.  Great job (as always)!!!

JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 10, 2008, 01:38:18 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

projectadam: Hi! Thanks for playing, my friend! We'll see how your answers stand!

alan_vzla: Thanks, my friend! And thanks for playing again, too!

Joan (Jmouse): Thanks so much, Joan! I'm still trying to get the hang of canals at this point. There's a lot of pieces in there that I have to sort out. And don't worry about being too busy for the latest round, we'll catch you next time!

Zack (woodb3kmaster): Hmmm....are you correct? We'll see...

bluesinjid: That's OK! Thanks for your support!

Casper (caspervg): I'd love to see what you do with the lot of Victoria Gebäude (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=828), my friend! Thanks for stopping by and for your great comments!

Jon (JBSimio): Hi, Jon! Thank you so very much for your comments and support, my friend! It means a lot to me!



Well, I think we have some results...

$200: alan_vzla, What is Boris?
$400: projectadam, What is Platoon?
$600: Zack (woodb3kmaster), Who is J.D. Salinger?
$800: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Damscus?
$1000: projectadam, What is Salzburg?



Today's picture, as well as today's Jeopardy! will follow later. I'm off to bed now, as it's almost 3:00 AM here in Pennsylvania!

See you then!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 10, 2008, 08:05:48 AM
That's a great picture for December 9 there!
Looking forward to more... ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 10, 2008, 08:59:22 AM
Ahhhh man...I missed a round.  How am I ever to catch up now.
I'll have to pay closer attention.

Hello Dustin,
Hope all is well.
Great picutre and you are doing really well in the SC4D Picture Competition.  &apls

As for the Victoria Gebäude by Meister-z, I just had a look at it and I don't see any way to add more props to the LOT.  The entire model and it's base were BATted together.  This means to get props to show up you need to raise it so high that when you rotate, the props will show up in different places.  You can already notice this with the people props on the LOT.  In one direction they are on the sidewalk and in another they move closer to the middle.  The parking lots on the outside however you can do anything you want there as they are not part of the BAT.  The LOT could be made larger and props could be added around the model.  ;)  Anyways this is one of my favourite models, it's just too bad it was all BATted together.

Sorry for jacking your MD..... &mmm

I look forward to this afternoon and another round of Jeopardy.
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 10, 2008, 01:58:15 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

bat: Thank you so much, bat!

Robin (rooker1): Hmmmm...that's a shame about Victoria Gebäude—it's a fantastic building! And don't worry about Jeopardy! either, my friend. There's plenty of rounds to catch up!



(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Dec15.jpg)
DECEMBER 10

Trying to create a more urban housing development-like setting. Similar structures, only distinguishable by their colors, all together in one area.

Oh, and the OSITM picture from December 8 (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg206647#msg206647) made it through three rounds of competition and has been inducted into the Picture Competition Hall of Fame (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?board=296.0)! Many thanks to all who voted!

And...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Jeopardy.jpg)

Official results for December 9...

$200: alan_vzla, What is Boris?
$400: projectadam, What is Platoon?
$600: Zack (woodb3kmaster), Who is J.D. Salinger?
$800: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Damscus?
$1000: projectadam, What is Salzburg?

And our current standings...

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head]
CONTESTANT[/head]
[head]
WINNINGS[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Zack (woodb3kmaster)[/data]
[data]
$3200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]projectadam[/data]
[data]
$1400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Matt (threestooges)[/data]
[data]
$600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Joan (Jmouse)[/data]
[data]
$400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]alan_vzla[/data]
[data]
$200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Robin (rooker1)[/data]
[data]
$200[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

Looks like Zack (woob3kmaster has jumped out to an early lead! Can anyone tighten the gap? We'll find out now!

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head colspan=3]
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 10[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[head][/head]
[head][/head]
[head]
___________________________________________________________________[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$200[/data]
[data]
SOUNDS LIKE AN ARMY UNIT[/data]
[data]One of the four fundamental operations in arithmetic[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$400[/data]
[data]
NAME THE AUTHOR[/data]
[data]The Iliad, The Odyssey[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$600[/data]
[data]
NORTHERNMOST CAPITAL CITY[/data]
[data]Warsaw, Tokyo, Lisbon[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$800[/data]
[data]
WORLD CITIES[/data]
[data]This capital of Saudi Arabia was built at an oasis[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[data]
RUSSIAN FIRST NAME'S THE SAME[/data]
[data]Gromyko, Sakharov[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

CATEGORY EXPLANATIONS
For "Russian First Name's the Same," we've given you two last names of people who have the same first name. Give us that first name.
For "Northernmost Capital City," give the capital city that is the furthest north on the map.
For the category "Sounds Like a Army Unit," the answer will be a word that is also used as a unit for troops in the military—e.g. squad, detachment, etc.

Good luck! I'll be heading into the game to do some work on the next update!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 10, 2008, 02:00:49 PM
$400 Who is Homer.
$800 What is Dubia?

Robin  :thumbsup:

EDIT: Merged your posts to avoid padding the post count! - Dustin (thundercrack83)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on December 10, 2008, 02:16:20 PM
Hi Dustin - great idea here.  Jeopardy is not a game I've seen in the UK, so I'll hopefully get the idea......

$200 - What is Division
$400 - Who was Homer
$600 - Where is Warsaw
$800 - Where is Al-Riyadh
$1000 - Who is Alexei

Great pics as well - especially the canal  :thumbsup:

EDIT: Hi, Paul!

And seeing it in print, I would like to amend the $1000 if that is allowed.......

Thanks


Actually, you can only answer once. And you're second answer was correct, too, so I removed it when I merge your posts! But don't worry, I can neither confirm nor deny at this stage, but you might be onto something! - Dustin (thundercrack83)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 10, 2008, 02:25:23 PM
$1000 Who is  Andrei?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 10, 2008, 02:37:04 PM
Wonderful new picture there! The one for the 10th December is great!
Looking forward to the picture for tomorrow! ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on December 10, 2008, 02:42:04 PM
Hey, Dustin!

I see you're living up to your OSITM promise of an update a day. Everything looks great, but I do have one peeve. In update nine, the parking lot running between the canal and Victoria Gebaude. I personally hate the Maxis parking lot textures and prefer to use Simgoober's or the ones shown on today's update (which, by the way, I like your use of my favorite lofts!).

Looks like I arrived a bit late to play Jeopardy!, but I'll try and catch the next round. I like what you're doing here, Dustin; giving us quality cities and exercising our brains at the same time. Take care!

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: projectadam on December 10, 2008, 04:10:04 PM
World Cities for $800: What is Riyadh.
Russian First Names for $1000: Who is Vladamir
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 10, 2008, 05:14:18 PM
Well, it looks like I'm too late to earn anything today, since I can see that the four correct answers I know have already been posted. Nevertheless, I'll stay in the game. My answers:

$200: What is division?
$400: Who is Homer?
$600: What is Warsaw?
$800: What is Riyadh?

On a different note, today's picture is very nice, Dustin! You did a great job with that residential development. I'd love to know what set of BATs that is...

Looking forward to more!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on December 11, 2008, 03:09:01 AM
Ahh well, those that I know are already answered correctly...  :D But regardless of that, I do like the 2 pictures! May I ask where did you found those lovely apartment blocks in the last picture?
You are doing a great job, Dustin!

See you around,
Karin ()borg()
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 11, 2008, 02:48:11 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Robin (rooker1): Hey, Robin! Hmmmm...we'll see if you're correct!

Paul (paroch): Your answers look like they may be OK, Paul! We'll have to wait for the official word!

Robin (rooker1): Ha! I said, we'll see!

bat: Thank you so much, my friend!

Dan (dsrwhat316): I know, I'm not a fan of those parking lot texture myself! I wonder if there's anything that can be done...Robin—can anything be done? (tease, tease...)

projectadam: Hello! Thanks for coming by to play! The official word is coming!

Zack (woodb3kmaster): Thanks so much for your kind words, Zack! The lofts are the NDEX Belton Lofts (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=11414) by DuskTrooper.

Karin (Lilojame): Hi, Karin! Don't worry, there's still more round! And see my reply to Zack (woodb3kmaster) for the link to the lofts! Thanks for coming by, my friend!




(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Dec06.jpg)
DECEMBER 11

Another FAR/R shot with a bit of Photoshopping. Did I mention that I love the FAR/R?

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Jeopardy.jpg)

Official results for December 10...

$200: Paul (paroch), What is Division?
$400: Robin (rooker1), Who is Homer?
$600: Paul (paroch), What is Warsaw?
$800: Paul (paroch), What is Riyadh?
$1000: Robin (rooker1), What is Andrei?

Here's the current standings...

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head]
CONTESTANT[/head]
[head]
WINNINGS[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Zack (woodb3kmaster)[/data]
[data]
$3200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Paul (paroch)[/data]
[data]
$1800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Robin (rooker1)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]projectadam[/data]
[data]
$1400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Matt (threestooges)[/data]
[data]
$600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Joan (Jmouse)[/data]
[data]
$400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]alan_vzla[/data]
[data]
$200[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

Robin has made a big jump, and Paul bursts onto the board to second place, but Zack's margin is still sizeable! Thing will get even more interesting with today's round...

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head colspan=3]
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 11[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[head][/head]
[head][/head]
[head]
___________________________________________________________________[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$200[/data]
[data]
NAME THE AUTHOR[/data]
[data]The Idiot, Crime and Punishment[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$400[/data]
[data]
NORTHERNMOST CAPITAL CITY[/data]
[data]Montevideo, Buenos Aires, Bogota[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$600[/data]
[data]
WORLD CITIES[/data]
[data]This Puerto Rican capital's harbor is guarded by Fort San Felipe Del Morro[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$800[/data]
[data]
RUSSIAN FIRST NAME'S THE SAME[/data]
[data]Eisentein, Rachmaninoff[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[data]
SOUNDS LIKE AN ARMY UNIT[/data]
[data]Homonym for the center of a Granny Smith or a Macintosh[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

CATEGORY EXPLANATIONS
For "Russian First Name's the Same," we've given you two last names of people who have the same first name. Give us that first name.
For "Northernmost Capital City," give the capital city that is the furthest north on the map.
For the category "Sounds Like a Army Unit," the answer will be a word that is also used as a unit for troops in the military—e.g. squad, detachment, etc.

Still have that update in the pipeline, too! It will be posted before midnight (EST) tonight!

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 11, 2008, 02:50:35 PM
$800 Who is Albert
$1000 What is Core?

EDIT: Merged. Thanks! - Dustin (thundercrack83)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: homefryes on December 11, 2008, 02:54:31 PM
$1000 what is Corps?

EDIT: Edited your post for the sake of the game is not allowed. Sorry! - Dustin (thundercrack83)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on December 11, 2008, 03:09:31 PM
$200 Who is Fyodor Dostoyevsky?
$600 What is San Juan?
$800 Who is Sergei?
$1000 What is the Corps?

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on December 11, 2008, 03:12:57 PM
$200: Who is Dostoevsky?
$400: What is Bogota?
$600: What is San Juan?
$800: Who is Albert?

Nice picture, the coloring gives it an awesome aspect! Congrats!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: nerdly_dood on December 11, 2008, 03:15:24 PM
$400 What is Bogotá?
$600 What is San Juan?
$800 Who is Albert?
$1,000 What is the core?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dedgren on December 11, 2008, 03:24:48 PM
Heh!  I wish I'd gotten over here sooner.  I love Jeopardy.


David
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 11, 2008, 05:13:23 PM
Me too, David. Me, too. It's good that I have to get up early tomorrow for my last final of the quarter - I'll be around and not doing anything when Dustin posts tomorrow's clues!

Anyway, Dustin, you've posted yet another great picture! Not only am I envious of your having the FAR/R and being able to use it to such great effect, but you've also made this image look very atmospheric with the sepia-tone. Good work!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [12/11/08]: UPDATE XI: Constructing...
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 11, 2008, 06:28:28 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Robin (rooker1): Sorry, Robin! Those are incorrect!

homefryes: Hmmm...you may be onto something...

Dan (dsrwhat316): You may be, too...

alan_vzla: As may you... Thanks for the comment, too, my friend!

nerdly_dood: Hey, thanks for coming by to play!

David (dedgren): Don't fret, David! There's plenty more rounds for you to get in on, my friend!

Zack (woodb3kmaster): Trying to maintain that lead, eh? That's what I like to hear! And thanks for your wonderful words, too, my friend!



(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Jeopardy.jpg)

We've got all the answers already! Fast and excellent work, everyone!

Official results for December 11...

$200: Dan (dsrwhat316), Who is Dostoevsky?
$400: alan_vzla, What is Bogota?
$600: Dan (dsrwhat316), What is San Juan?
$800: Dan (dsrwhat316), What is Sergei?
$1000: homefryes, What is Corps?

We had a little mix up with "Eisentein," though! The clue referred to Russian film director Sergei Eisentein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Eisenstein), not Albert Einstein. Also, Robin's answer of "Core" to the $1000 clue is correct phonetically, but since the clue said "homonym," meaning two words that sound the same but spelled differently, correct spelling was necessary.

Here's the current standings after this round—

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head]
CONTESTANT[/head]
[head]
WINNINGS[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Zack (woodb3kmaster)[/data]
[data]
$3200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Paul (paroch)[/data]
[data]
$1800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Dan (dsrwhat316)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Robin (rooker1)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]projectadam[/data]
[data]
$1400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]homefryes[/data]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]alan_vzla[/data]
[data]
$600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Matt (threestooges)[/data]
[data]
$600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Joan (Jmouse)[/data]
[data]
$400[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

Things are getting even more interesting! Watch out for tomorrow's questions!

Now, on to other things...




UPDATE XI
Constructing the Westmoreland Avenue Tunnel
11 December 2008

Remember way back in our two-part update series The Highway is Alive Tonight (Part I (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg201032#msg201032) | Part II (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg203153#msg203153)), how I "accidentally" neglected to handle Tile B when documenting the highway construction?

Well, we're going to head to Tile B right now! We'll bring back the Blueprint Map for reacquaintance purposes...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Maps/1031bpmap.jpg)

There's Tile B—at the northern shore of Marathon Island! Now, if you also remember, on the Highway Map presented in UPDATE VI: The highway is Alive Tonight, Part I (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg201032#msg201032), there was a broken dashed line in the highway. And we all know what a broken dashed line means—Tunnel! Here's a close up of the tile...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11016.jpg)

In the interest of full disclosure...I love tunnels, for some reason! If there's even a remote excuse to use one, I'll do it! I have fun constructing them, I have fun planning to construct them—everything about the tunnels is a blast for me! Yes, I'm strange.

So where to begin?

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11001.jpg)

Before we begin tunnel digging, some terraforming has been done to the entire tile, not only for the tunnel, but for the overall tile itself!

First step in the tunnel is...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11002.jpg)

...the trench, since the tunnel is part of the sunken highway network in Marathon.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11003.jpg)

More trench.

But now, because of the slope of the island, we have to do some funky terraforming.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11004.jpg)

I've leveled a two-tile portion...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11005.jpg)

...along the coast of the northern shore, for the entire length of...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11006.jpg)

...our tunnel!

But we can't leave it like that, can we? Well, I suppose we could, but that would be ridiculous! So more terraforming is necessary, to the tune of...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11007.jpg)

...that!

The entire two-tile terrace is eliminated, and the western end of the tunnel...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11008.jpg)

...looks like this.

But that's insufficient as well. At least, for my personal taste. Next step:

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11009.jpg)

The "platform"—for lack of a better term—around the western end is enlarged. And...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11010.jpg)

A gentle slope is added to create a bit of a tube for the tunnel to come out of the ground.

Since the sunken highway is no longer sunken at the western end, we connect with...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11011.jpg)

...a lovely NAM puzzle piece, the GroundHighway OnSlope piece!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11012.jpg)

More road networking done around the western end.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11013.jpg)

The eastern end of the tunnel is also connected to the sunken highway network. At the right end, you can see where Westmoreland Avenue (the avenue heading down the slope above where the tunnel is) is the above-ground thoroughfare.

Here's what the western end currently looks like in Marathon...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11014.jpg)

And the eastern end—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11015.jpg)

I won't lie. I am not at all pleased, satisfied, or otherwise happy with the areas surrounding the east end of the tunnel, hence the heavier Photoshopping. It was done in one of the many "Test Marathon" regions I have and things need to be reworked. We will definitely be revisiting this area very soon.

So there you have it! With this update, the highway network on Marathon Island is complete...or is it? And, we've also named one of the streets, Westmoreland Avenue. Maybe we'll look into that a bit more, too, sometime...

Stick around, friends, for more daily OSITM pictures, more Jeopardy!, and more Marathon!

Thanks for coming by!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 11, 2008, 06:46:15 PM
Another great update.
I was actually surprised to see the picture go from the start, terraforming all the way to completely finished.
 &apls
Never mind what you think about, I'm telling you it looks great.
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on December 11, 2008, 07:26:37 PM
Jeopardy?  Why didn't you say so?  I'm sure I'll try my hand at some questions sometime, after the "commercial break."  Of course, this is one commercial ad that I have really enjoyed watching.  The tunnel tutorial is constructed wonderfully, just as the others have been.  Keep it up, Dustin!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: CasperVg on December 11, 2008, 11:12:22 PM
I have to agree on what you said about the Eastern Entrance, the whole setting around seems to miss something, but I can't really pinpoint what exactly it is. I would take a guess on the mix of Maxis' medium-sized buildings in the right-middle of the picture, and the (commercial?) modern high rises at the top. Nevertheless, no-one can disagree that the Western Entrance looks brilliant, and was thought upon and terraformed extremely clever and nicely, but that applies to the whole of your highway system, and possibly Marathon in general.

I can't wait for more,
Casper
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 12, 2008, 08:56:22 AM
Another fantastic update there, Dustin! Great work on the highway!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on December 12, 2008, 10:47:07 AM
Darn, all that I can say to this update is  :o  &apls. Seriously! Never mind the eastern side... Huh, I will admit here that I didn't know that you can make a tunnel and then teraform over it. Silly me, lol... I forgot that building roads in SC4 is not like RL when teraforing over the tunnel would destroy the road. :D So at least from my part, I again learned something new, thanks!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on December 12, 2008, 02:40:13 PM
I'll give you my honest opinion about the "east end" :-[. The golden skyscraper seems out of place to me. I don't particularly care for any of the Maxis buildings (which is why I use a No Maxis Mod). A few diagonals would be better to have along the roads.

I hope you don't mind (if you do, sorry!), I'll show you a pic from my old MD, The Republic of Bevelle (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2625.msg151281#msg151281). In the third pic, you'll see some examples of diagonal road building that perhaps you could use in your MD. Again, sorry for hijacking your MD, but I felt a pic would help my explanation more. I look forward to seeing the next OSITM update  :thumbsup:!

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 12, 2008, 02:48:09 PM

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Robin (rooker1): Thanks, Robin! The tunnel wasn't all that difficult to construct, so I figured and bang it out in one update. I'm still not sold on the eastern end, though!

metarvo: The commercial break's over, my friend! Get ready!

Casper (caspervg): I feel the same way. I wasn't even going to show a picture of it because I wasn't happy with it, but I figured it wouldn't be right to show one end without the other. One good thing, though—now I have something for comparison! Thanks for coming by, and for your input, my friend!

bat: Thank you, my friend! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

Karin (Lilojame): Hi, Karin! Thank you so much, I'm glad you were able to take something away from the update! That always makes me feel good! Thanks for coming by!

Dan (dsrwhat316): Hello, Dan! No worries about the hijacking, my friend! If you've got something to share, I'd love to see it! I know what you're saying about the diagonals, too—I'll be looking into a number of different ideas for that. As for the Maxis buildings, though, I don't mind them, when used sporadically in conjunction with the great custom content, though I know what you mean about them! Thanks for you advice, my friend!



So there's today's picture! It is not the original picture I had lined up for December 12, but...

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DECEMBER 12

...that's OK!

I've preempted with this because my very good friend Robin (rooker1) did some tinkering with Victoria Gebäude (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=828), adding some great seasonal trees and swapping out the parking lot textures. I thought that least I could was showcase Robin's fantastic work! Thanks so much, Robin!

Now...

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Today's round!

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[head colspan=3]
FRIDAY, DECEMBER 12[/head]
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[row]
[head][/head]
[head][/head]
[head]
___________________________________________________________________[/head]
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[data]
$200[/data]
[data]
NORTHERNMOST CAPITAL CITY[/data]
[data]Hanoi, Phom Penh, Rangoon, Vientiane[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$400[/data]
[data]
WORLD CITIES[/data]
[data]This city, founded in 1693, did not become capital of Jamaica until 1872[/data]
[/row]
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[data]
$600[/data]
[data]
RUSSIAN FIRST NAME'S THE SAME[/data]
[data]Putin, Lenin[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$800[/data]
[data]
SOUNDS LIKE AN ARMY UNIT[/data]
[data]Proverbially, two is this, and three's a crowd[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[data]
NAME THE AUTHOR[/data]
[data]Main Street, Babbitt[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

CATEGORY EXPLANATIONS
For "Russian First Name's the Same," we've given you two last names of people who have the same first name. Give us that first name.
For "Northernmost Capital City," give the capital city that is the furthest north on the map.
For the category "Sounds Like a Army Unit," the answer will be a word that is also used as a unit for troops in the military—e.g. squad, detachment, etc.



It's our final round for this week. Next week, new categories and the money values are doubled! Anything can happen—Good luck!

And be on the lookout for our next update, which I hope to put together over the weekend!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 12, 2008, 02:58:09 PM
Alright! First reply to the new post! My evil plan is working...

Here are my Jeopardy answers:
$200: What is Hanoi?
$400: What is Kingston?
$600: What is Vladimir?
$800: What is company?

I'll be a good sport and let someone else get the $1000 question.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on December 12, 2008, 03:02:44 PM
$1000 : Who is Sinclair Lewis?

And a nice picture there!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on December 12, 2008, 03:26:47 PM
I guess Jeopardy's a good time to make a first post in here...

I love what I've seen so far (just read through the whole thing), and even if you aren't happy with that tunnel I am!  :D

And I like the history lesson a few pages back, and all the maps and diagrams, etc., included throughout this MD really make it great!  :thumbsup:

Although actually, the only jeopardy questions I think know the answer to woodb3kmaster has already answered... so I'll play next time.

Great MD, Dustin! You deserve both the award and OSITM!  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bluesinjid on December 12, 2008, 05:19:41 PM
Wow sweet lotting with that buildin! &apls Will it be released to the public? ( the LE version? )
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: projectadam on December 13, 2008, 12:05:43 AM
Dustin,

Loved the revisit to tile "B". The tutorial was very helpful and I liked the tunnel. Things just keep moving along very well here at CoM &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 13, 2008, 12:38:17 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Zack (woodb3kmaster): Whoa! Looking to add to that lead, eh? We'll see if you did!

Karin (Lilojame): You made it in! That's great! We'll get the official word on your answer!

deathtopumpkins: Welcome to Marathon, my friend! I'm glad that you read through everything here, and I'm even more glad that you enjoyed it! Hope to see you around more often!

bluesinjid: I'm actually not sure if it will be available to the public, as I don't know what the protocol for things like that are. If it is, though, I'll be sure to let you know!

projectadam: Hey, there! Thanks so much, my friend!



(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Jeopardy.jpg)

Well, this was the quickest round yet!

Official results for December 12...

$200: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Hanoi?
$400: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Kingston?
$600: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Vladimir?
$800: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Company?
$1000: Karin (Lilojame), Who is Sinclair Lewis?

And the current standings...

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WINNINGS[/head]
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[data]
$5200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Paul (paroch)[/data]
[data]
$1800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Dan (dsrwhat316)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Robin (rooker1)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]projectadam[/data]
[data]
$1400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]homefryes[/data]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]alan_vzla[/data]
[data]
$600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Matt (threestooges)[/data]
[data]
$600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Joan (Jmouse)[/data]
[data]
$400[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

Boy, Zack—you're running away with this thing! But it's not over yet, friends!

The Double Jeopardy! round starts on Monday, and money values are doubled! So, start studying!

Also, I'm going to be away, probably for most of Saturday (technically today here in Pennsylvania), so I'll get today's picture out of the way!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

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DECEMBER 13

I found the NDEX 45° Curve Station (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=19862) by ill tonkso, and I thought, "Well, I'm havin' that!" Other than that, just a typical small-town downtown.

Have to go Christmas shopping all day tomorrow. Needless to say, I'm not looking forward to that!

But don't worry, more from Marathon is always on the horizon!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 13, 2008, 01:02:04 AM
Hi Dustin!

I haven't responded lately and I apologize for that.  I guess I'm just not that good at Jeopardy!  :D  It's a great idea though and seems to be going very well!

I really enjoyed your last update.  The east tunnel entrance is remarkable!  The way the expressway transfers from an elevated highway into a tunnel is simply amazing... what a great idea!  And you managed to make it look so natural that if this weren't all part of a game I would have never looked twice at it.   &apls  (I should mention that since it is a game, I looked at it for quite a long while... studying, sketching, taking notes... you get the idea)  I agree that something is missing from the west entrance.  I'm not entirely sure what it is, but perhaps it's just a matter of elevation?  You go from a sunken highway into a tunnel with no real elevation change.  It makes sense in some ways... but in other ways it begs the question, "Why does a sunken highway suddenly need a tunnel?"  I don't really have any further answers or advice on that one... but it's just what I noticed.

As for the daily pictures... well they both look great!  I'm really not sure what else to say other than that.  The building selection is purt-near perfect (as we'd say in Covington) and the layout is as realistic as one could ever ask for.  What more needs to be said?

Looking forward to the next batch...
JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: tooheys on December 13, 2008, 02:13:21 AM
Yikes, I go missing for a couple of weeks and you progress 7 pages and numerous updates.

Don't know how you find the time, but great work mate  :thumbsup:

Love the updates and nice work with "Jeopardy"

In particular, the hwy entrances stand out, especially the western end (careful not to call it West End, copyright laws are tough these days :D) That is nicely done  &apls

Will try to drop by a bit more often, just so I don't have to read thru a dozen pages  :D

Cheers

Dave

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 13, 2008, 05:42:17 AM
Two nice new pictures there! Great work! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dandan 777 on December 13, 2008, 04:00:35 PM
Very nice my friend! Is that Cyclone's Terrain Mod? ()meeting()
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on December 13, 2008, 07:36:04 PM
Looks like I'm slowing down here in Jeopardy, but I'm not done yet (just keep tellinig yourself that). Nice updates Dustin. The tunnel design (and the tunnel-elevated highway transition is very well detailed and laid out. I think, in regard to the eastern end, there are some rather empty spots (like just below the central tower) that seem to create a hole, at least in my opinion, as I can't quite put my finger on it either. The Victoria is nice and that station is just amazing. Thanks (to you and Ill Tonkso) for bringing that to my attention, and to my plugins folder. I'll keep an eye out for the next installment of Jeopardy, and the next update, but until then, take it easy.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: CasperVg on December 13, 2008, 11:08:33 PM
Another most interesting picture here, Dustin! You've chosen a good collections of BATs in this picture, and you're the first one to use ITS' 45° Station, that I've seen. I'd say it was a good idea to hide the railway merge behind ill tonkso's Georgian stores (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?page=1&type=all&keyword=ITS%20Georgian). Too bad not everything in SC4 can be seasonal, otherwise the picture would've looked even better.

Up to December 14?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on December 14, 2008, 04:12:49 AM
Dustin, your work with the sunken highway is awesome my friend, i think I will use this update for a tutorial !   &apls
As for the little picture, she look splendid my friend, great use of these houses. :thumbsup:
Arthur
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 14, 2008, 03:08:19 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Jon (JBSimio): Don't worry about missing stuff around here, it's OK! Your comments are always a pleasure to see and read here in Marathon. As for your take on the tunnel entrance, I agree—it's a bit of a conundrum! The reason I went from the sunken highway to the tunnel at the top of the slope was to give the impression that, in the tunnel, the elevation change that you mentioned takes place: a slight downgrade at the beginning of the tunnel, then basically following the slope of the ground until that platform, where an upgrade brings it to the tunnel exit. Of course, that's how it works in my head! In reality, not so sure that's how it would work! Hope that makes sense to you, and I hope to see you around again, my friend!

Dave (tooheys): Hi, Dave! Good to see you again, my friend! I'm glad you enjoyed the tunnel—though you're right, "WEST END" is definitely taken, and it's definitely magnificent, too! Thanks for stopping by, Dave!

bat: Thank you, bat!

dandan 777: Welcome to Marathon! I use the Italia Terrain Mod (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1527) by c.p. How that answers your question, my friend!

Matt (threestooges): Hello, there, Matt! The empty spots on the eastern end mare one of what I think are a few culprits in the area. I think I'll take a look at this spot next time I head back into the game. With any luck, I'll have something to show for it soon! Thanks for your great comments, my friend! And hope to see you for this week's Jeopardy! rounds!

Casper (caspervg): Good to see you again, Casper! And you caught my trick (well, not my trick, I'm sure!) with hiding the switch behind behind the buildings. Thanks for coming by!

Arthur (art128): Thanks so much, Arthur!



(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

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DECEMBER 14

An attempt at a bit of an office park area. The nVIDIA Corporation Building (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=19149) by blanco_05 is a wonderful BAT, though I find it's one of those things that is a bit difficult to place. I feel that it works in those office park-type areas that are found in suburban areas, just outside the metropolitan and urban sections. Oh, and once again, I slipped the Canfield Building in!

Working on an update this afternoon and evening, hope to have it wrapped on soon.

Also, tomorrow starts the Double Jeopardy! round! Will Zack (woodb3kmaster) add to his already significant lead, or will some emerge from the pack to challenge him?

We'll find out starting tomorrow!

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: sim-al2 on December 14, 2008, 03:16:49 PM
I do like that building now, but I've always thought it was too bright. However, it looks very natural in that setting. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: TheTeaCat on December 14, 2008, 03:56:00 PM
Oh Boy was I glad I had a cuppa when I cliked on your thread. Sorry about not been here sooner (RL grr) but Amazing stuff you have been doing. What with your award and now OSITM, plus games and some wikked pics.

Stunning mate thats about all I can say &apls &apls
Excellent hints and tips, great explantaion of FARR wow there's just so much to comment on I know I'll forget to mention something :D :D

Now I've caught up it should be easier to keep an eye on all you do :thumbsup:

 :satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on December 14, 2008, 10:11:06 PM
It seems like RL goes hand-in-hand with this time of year.  I know it does for me.  &Thk/(  That's why I haven't been in here as much.  I should be able to find time for a little Double Jeopardy! tomorrow, though.  By the way, the Canfield looks better every time I see you use.  Every diagonal building is a plus, since they look so good along those diagonal roads that are so important to me.  :)  Good work, Dustin!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 14, 2008, 10:13:09 PM
Hi Dustin!

Surprisingly enough, you've posted another wonderful "daily!"  It looks like the perfect recreation of a suburban office park to me and the Canfield Building fits there just as well as it did in the other picture.  (What a great versitile building, isn't it?)

In regards to the tunnel... I actually understood the idea behind the tunnel and it does make perfect sense to me too.  I was just pointing out what caught my eye when looking at the pictures.  That's not to say there's even anything "wrong" with it... just that it was something I noticed.  Either way, I'm much like you in that I love tunnels... especially downtown freeway tunnels for some reason.  I'd have built one into Covington already, but I don't feel that the size of the city justifies such a project at this time.  ;)

See you next time!
JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: BuildingUp on December 14, 2008, 10:18:32 PM
I love it, especially with one of my favorite companies!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on December 15, 2008, 04:23:16 AM
Great picture my friend. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on December 15, 2008, 04:38:47 AM
If that building is difficult to place, you sure make it seem easy. Though it's more heavily wooded than the office parks I'm used to (then again, I live in the LA area where they've paved rivers, heh heh) I like it. I can almost hear the wind rustling through the trees. At any rate, I'll keep an eye out for the Jeopardy round tomorrow and see if I can give Zack a run for his money. Take it easy Dustin.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 15, 2008, 07:07:34 AM
Hello Dustin,

 I missed some great updates, which I knew would happen at this time of year.  I don't think I even had time this past weekend to turn on the computer.  I took my boys to see Santa Claus both days, shopping and stopping at friends houses occupies this time of year so easily.
 What time of day did you take the picture of Victoria Gebäude?  And how long did the city run before you took the picture?  I am very surprised that the parking lot is empty, it should be full of cars.  ??? I'm glad you like the semi seasonal trees.  I saw a few LOTs in your city with them and that you ploped some here and there, so I thought it would be very fitting if this LOT had some as well.
 I can convert/change any LOTs for you within a few moments any time you want.  :thumbsup:  ;)
 I'm glad that you didn't run any Jeopardy over the weekend, otherwise I might be too far behind to be able to catch up.

Seeya later,
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 15, 2008, 01:18:27 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

sim-al2: Thanks, my friend! The extra brightness may be my fault, though, as I adjusted the brightness and contrast in Photoshop.

Derry (TheTeaCat): So good to see you again, Derry! I hope everything is slowing down for you a bit, my friend. I'm glad to hear the you're all caught up and that you're enjoying things here in Marathon! Hope to see you again soon!

metarvo: I know what you mean—This time of year gets pretty hectic! Thankfully, I'm almost through with everything that I need to get done, so it won't be as bad. Thanks for coming by, and for your wonderful words, my friend!

Jon (JBSimio): Hey, there, Jon! I'd stick a sunken highway in the middle of a village if it would look even remotely right! I love them! And I couldn't agree more about the versatility of the Canfield Building! It works in just about any setting I can think of! Thanks for stopping in here, Jon!

BuildingUp: Thank you!

Arthur (art128): Thanks, Arthur!

Matt (threestooges): Hi, Matt! Thanks so much, my friend—I drew a bit of inspiration from an area around Allentown / Bethlehem, PA, where my girlfriend lives. There's a bunch of office complexes that have lots of open space and wooded areas around them, and I just found it an interesting place to try and recreate! Hope all is going well with you!

Robin (rooker1): Hello, Robin! I'm with you on being busy this time of year, my friend. My Saturday was completely obliterated with Christmas-related stuff! As for Victoria Gebäude—first, let me say, wonderful work on that, my friend! Just the little touches you've made to it have made a massive difference! To answer your questions, I'm not sure what time of day it was, but there were cars in the parking lot at one point and then they were gone. So, I sat there with the game running to try and get them to come back up, and well...what do they say about watching a pot of boiling water? They just didn't seem to pop up! Then, I just got frustrated and took the shot! Thanks for all your help and support, my friend. Marathon wouldn't be where it is (or anywhere, for that matter!) without you!



OK, today's picture...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Dec12.jpg)
DECEMBER 15

Just a little winter shot that I threw together as a bit of an experiment. I really had fun doing this one for some reason! I think I may have to play around with another one!

And, since it's now Monday...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Jeopardy.jpg)

Before we get started, let's refresh our memories on the standings...


[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head]
CONTESTANT[/head]
[head]
WINNINGS[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Zack (woodb3kmaster)[/data]
[data]
$5200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Paul (paroch)[/data]
[data]
$1800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Dan (dsrwhat316)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Robin (rooker1)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]projectadam[/data]
[data]
$1400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]homefryes[/data]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]alan_vzla[/data]
[data]
$600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Matt (threestooges)[/data]
[data]
$600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Joan (Jmouse)[/data]
[data]
$400[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

Now it's time for Double Jeopardy!

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head colspan=3]
MONDAY, DECEMBER 15[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[head][/head]
[head][/head]
[head]
___________________________________________________________________[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$400[/data]
[data]
CANADIAN GEOGRAPHY[/data]
[data]In 1999, this territory split from the Northwest Territories[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$800[/data]
[data]
NOT ONE, NOT 2, BUT 3 O'S[/data]
[data]It's the equality of ratios; "don't blow things out of" it[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[data]
VOWELLESS FRUIT[/data]
[data]LMN[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[data]
REALLY BUSY AIRPORTS[/data]
[data]You may have a lei-over there: HNL[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$2000[/data]
[data]
EUROPEAN BODIES OF WATER[/data]
[data]In this country, to get from Harlingen to Oost Vlieland, you have to cross the Waddenzee[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

CATEGORY EXPLANATIONS
For "Not One, Not 2, But 3 O's," each correct answer will be a word with 3 O's in it.
For "Vowelless Fruit," the clue gives the name of a fruit without the vowels. Name that fruit.
For "Really Busy Airports," please give the city of the airport described, not the airport name.



Good luck!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 15, 2008, 01:23:45 PM
$400 - Where is Nunavut?
$800 - What is proportion?

EDIT: Merged! - Dustin (thundercrack83)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on December 15, 2008, 01:35:33 PM
For $1600 - where is Honolulu?

Great update pics btw Dustin- you really are showing us some variety here - and the West End copyright lawyers are not too hot  ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: TheTeaCat on December 15, 2008, 01:52:32 PM

$400 - Where is Nunavut?
$800 - What is proportion?
$1200 -What is sour?
$1600 - where is Honolulu?


Great Pic mate

 :satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: TheTeaCat on December 15, 2008, 01:54:07 PM
Edit

$1200 should be Lemon

didn't want to edit

 :satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on December 15, 2008, 01:56:54 PM
For $1200: What is lemon?
For $2000: What is the Netherlands?

Very simple, but nice picture BTW
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on December 15, 2008, 04:15:30 PM
Rats, looks like I'm a bit late for this round, but the picture is a nice way to soften the blow, heh heh. Very interesting picture. Is that texture on the ground from the game, or did you add if afterwards? Looks like winter has come to Marathon. I'm doing pretty well, I just need to get that Christmas shopping done, but at least I have a list now. Now to get ready for the fun of the excursion.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: projectadam on December 15, 2008, 04:34:45 PM
Really Busy Airports for 1600: What is Honolulu International Airport
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 16, 2008, 02:18:15 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Robin (rooker1): Official word's on the way, my friend!

Paul (paroch): Thanks, Paul! And don't worry, the royalty check's in the mail!

Derry (TheTeaCat): Thank you, Derry! We'll see if your answers are correct!

alan_vzla: And we'll see if yours are, too!

Matt (threestooges): Hi, Matt! That is the texture on the ground in the game, I raised the elevation of the entire tile up to get to the point where the terrain mod produces so, then went from there softening with the God Mode tools until I got something I was happy with. The idea for it came to me while laying in bed the one night, and it was a lot of fun to play around with! Good luck with your shopping, too! I'm going to try to finish mine up tomorrow afternoon. Take care, my friend!

projectadam: Hi, there! The official answers are forthcoming!



It's quite early in the day, but it's shaping up to be a bit of a hectic one again, so I'll take care of things early!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Dec16.jpg)
DECEMBER 16

Another industrial shot, showcasing those wonderful Logistics Centers again! I was plopping and bulldozing over and over again, until i got my two favorite ones in the shot—Maersk Sealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maersk_Sealand) and Hapag-Lloyd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapag-Lloyd). It took awhile, but finally, I got it!

Moving on...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Jeopardy.jpg)

It was another quick round for Monday! Here's the official answers...

Official results for December 15...

$400: Robin (rooker1), What is Nunavut?
$800: Robin (rooker1), What is Proportion?
$1200: Derry (TheTeaCat), What is Lemon?
$1600: Paul (paroch), What is Honolulu?
$2000: alan_vzla, What is the Netherlands?

And our current money standings...

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head]
CONTESTANT[/head]
[head]
WINNINGS[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Zack (woodb3kmaster)[/data]
[data]
$5200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Paul (paroch)[/data]
[data]
$3400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Robin (rooker1)[/data]
[data]
$2800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]alan_vzla[/data]
[data]
$2600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Dan (dsrwhat316)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]projectadam[/data]
[data]
$1400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Derry (TheTeaCat)[/data]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]homefryes[/data]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Matt (threestooges)[/data]
[data]
$600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Joan (Jmouse)[/data]
[data]
$400[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

Zack (woodb3kmaster) is still at the top of the tally, but the doubled money this week is slimming that margin!

And, in the interest of keeping things rather random (We don't want to keep posting the questions at the same time each day, do we?)

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head colspan=3]
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 16[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[head][/head]
[head][/head]
[head]
___________________________________________________________________[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$400[/data]
[data]
NOT ONE, NOT 2, BUT 3 O'S[/data]
[data]It pulls a train or individual railroad cars[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$800[/data]
[data]
VOWELLESS FRUIT[/data]
[data]PPY[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[data]
REALLY BUSY AIRPORTS[/data]
[data]An hour later you'll want to go back: PEK[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[data]
EUROPEAN BODIES OF WATER[/data]
[data]The Gironde, an estuary formed by a river confluence near Bordeaux, extends to this bay[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$2000[/data]
[data]
CANADIAN GEOGRAPHY[/data]
[data]This 1800 mi2 Canadian lake sits entirely within a prairie province of the same name[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

CATEGORY EXPLANATIONS
For "Not One, Not 2, But 3 O's," each correct answer will be a word with 3 O's in it.
For "Vowelless Fruit," the clue gives the name of a fruit without the vowels. Name that fruit.
For "Really Busy Airports," please give the city of the airport described, not the airport name.



Happy answering!

Down at the girlfriend's again until Wednesday, so that update that I've been alluding to will be a bit longer. Sorry about that, friends!

See you soon!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 16, 2008, 02:33:43 AM
For $400 - What is a Locomotive?
For $800 - What is a Papaya?

Great picture once again, Dustin!  I really like the newer warehouses mixed in with the older industirals...

Until next time...
JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: CarmineHilton on December 16, 2008, 02:40:08 AM
Luv the pictures!! I should SO visit more often ;) Love the style of city building and picture editing =)
& uuh, I'd like to give this 'quiz'-thing at try :p

For $1600, Where is the Bay of Biscay?


xo
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: projectadam on December 16, 2008, 03:46:21 AM
Really Busy Airports for $1200: What is Beijing International Airport?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 16, 2008, 06:54:21 AM
$2000 - What is Manatoba Lake.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 16, 2008, 07:01:19 AM
Hey Dustin,

 Great idea to switch it up a little.  The more people that can play the better.  Good thing there was still one more for me to try and answer. ::)
 Awesome picture for today.  I see a really nice TE LOT, I don't think I've seen that one before.  Where did you get the "Maersk Sealand" LOT?
 We are now at the halfway mark for the month, I hope you still have alot of steam cause everything so far has been awesome.

 See you later my friend,
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on December 16, 2008, 12:58:16 PM
Hi Dustin - hey the early update threw me out!!!  :D

$1200 - Where is Beijing?

Interesting Warehouse zone you have shown us there - although I'm not sure I'd want to park my car in the car park of the warehouse in the top left  ;)

Paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: TheTeaCat on December 16, 2008, 01:34:53 PM
Excellent Industrial area there :thumbsup:

The early update got me too  ::) no questions left to answer  $%Grinno$%
Oh well Time for a cuppa then , made one for you too
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/116/teapotandcup183e331wj9.png)

till the next time
regards
Derry
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 16, 2008, 02:48:40 PM
Since the correct answer wasn't spelled correctly above, I'll enter it myself:

$2000: What is Manitoba Lake?

Nice industrial shot, Dustin! You're really good at making industrial areas look interesting.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 16, 2008, 02:53:14 PM
Since I noticed this after I posted above, does it matter what order "lake" and ther lake's name appear in, or will you accept either order?

Looking forward to more,

Zack
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on December 16, 2008, 04:24:15 PM
Ooh, special time for this round. I'm sure some of these have already been guessed, but let's give it a shot anyway.

$400 What is a Locomotive?
$800 What is a Papaya?
$1200 Where is Shanghai?
$1600 What is the Bay of Biscay? (only one I could think of)
$2000 no idea... What is Quebec?

Going back to the previous picture, were those gray spots under the trees caused by the mod then, or the trees (I haven't messed with a snow mod before, so I'm not sure what the properties are). Looking through the effects of the pic from this update, I see a very nice layout (and some really neat buildings too), but the smog effect gives it that little bit extra. Well done Dustin.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 17, 2008, 01:08:30 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Jon (JBSimio): Hi, Jon! Thanks for your kind words, and for playing! We'll see how you did in a few seconds!

Carmine (CarmineHilton): Hey, Carmine! Good to see you again, my friend! I'm glad you're enjoying things here in Marathon, too! Oh, and I just noticed, so...Happy birthday! Hope your day is wonderful!

projectadam: Thanks for playing! The official answers are on the way...

Robin (rooker1): Hey, Robin! You can find the Logistics Centers by cogeo on the STEX (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=16119). Have fun with them...I know I am!

Paul (paroch): Hi, Paul! Caught you off guard, eh? You got your shot in, though, so that's OK! Thanks for your kind words, too, my friend!

Derry (TheTeaCat): Hello, my friend! Thanks so much for the tea! And don't worry, there's a few more rounds to go...well, around!

Zack (woodb3kmaster): The answers are to follow, my friend!

Matt (threestooges): Actually, I haven't used a snow mod for that picture. I just raised the terrain so high for the entire tile that the snow from the terrain mod kicked in. The grey patches are my rock mod from the slopes in the terrain. Hope that answers your question, my friend! Thanks for coming by and for your wonderful words!



Another early-bird special...or quite a late night, however you want to look at it!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Dec21.jpg)
DECEMBER 17

Autumn on campus! I really love seasonal trees, don't you?



(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Jeopardy.jpg)

Official results for December 16...

$400: Jon (JBSimio), What is Locomotive?
$800: Jon (JBSimio), What is Papaya?
$1200: projectadam, What is Beijing?
$1600: Carmine (CarmineHilton), What is Bay of Biscay?
$2000: Robin (rooker1), What is Lake Manitoba?

While there was a spelling mistake in Robin's answer—he spelled it "Manatoba" instead of "Manitoba"—the phonetic spelling was correct, and correct spelling was not necessary for the clue, as it was in our last spelling issue. They would have given it to him on the real Jeopardy!, so I made an executive decision.

Here's the money!

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head]
CONTESTANT[/head]
[head]
WINNINGS[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Zack (woodb3kmaster)[/data]
[data]
$5200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Robin (rooker1)[/data]
[data]
$4800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Paul (paroch)[/data]
[data]
$3400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]alan_vzla[/data]
[data]
$2600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]projectadam[/data]
[data]
$2600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Carmine (CarmineHilton)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Dan (dsrwhat316)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Derry (TheTeaCat)[/data]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Jon (JBSimio)[/data]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]homefryes[/data]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Matt (threestooges)[/data]
[data]
$600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Joan (Jmouse)[/data]
[data]
$400[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

Things are tightening up a bit at the top, so it's anybody's ballgame, heading into Wednesday's round!

And speaking of Wednesday's round...

...it'll be coming later! Want to keep everyone on their toes!

I'll be back home by tomorrow afternoon (weather permitting, we're having some precipitation here in eastern Pennsylvania), so I'll be posting the Wednesday questions then!

Also, we're slowly but surely approaching the 400 comment mark already! Did I mention how great all of you are?

Back in a little while!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 17, 2008, 07:37:02 AM
Some really nice new pictures there! And looking forward to more... :thumbsup:
Nice work on your MD! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on December 17, 2008, 12:15:59 PM
Hi my friend!
I am very sorry for missing so many of your wonderful updates! I liked every single picture that you posted. Every time that I come here its like "WOW"! You are doing a superb work in here!  &apls

Karin
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 17, 2008, 12:37:49 PM
Yay!  I made it on the board!!!  :D

I also love the seasonal trees... quite possibly one of my favorite additions to the game, really.  It looks like you've added a few extras too.  ;)  I like this picture a lot (for some odd reason) and the lighting effects you've used really make the buildings look great!  I hope to see more of the campus in the future.  (Did you remember to download the patch (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1876) by the way?)

See you next time!
JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on December 17, 2008, 01:26:44 PM
 :o WOW! That's got to be one of the best SC4 pictures in the history! well done!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 17, 2008, 03:14:34 PM
Wow, go AWOL for a week around here and it takes six weeks to catch up! Love the dailies, especially the 15th and 17th. I'm sure I join many in choosing those as favorites. Also enjoyed the tute on tunnel making - very helpful.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 17, 2008, 03:31:13 PM
Dustin, that is a terrific picture! Is that one of your custom lots? If so, you've really come a long way since you first started working with the LE.

Looking forward to today's round of Jeopardy...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 17, 2008, 03:38:30 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

bat: Thanks so much, bat! Your support is always appreciated, my friend!

Karin (Lilojame): Hi, Karin! No need to apologize, my friend! I'm glad you stopped in and that you're enjoying things! Take care!

Jon (JBSimio): Congratulations for making it on the board, my friend! Seasonal trees are one of those subtle, yet very important additions to the game that, without them, I don't know where I'd be! And I wonder why you like this picture...Ha! The Clayhurst set is just fantastic, my friend. I'd say it was your best work, but everything you do is your best work! And, no! I did not get the patch—I'll be downloading it posthaste! Take care, Jon!

alan_vzla: Wow! Thank you so much for that, my friend! There's some great pictures out there, though, so I don't know if I can include myself in that category!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, there, Joan! I'm glad you're enjoying the daily pictures, my friend! They've been so much fun to make, I don't know what I'll do when December's over. Thanks for coming by!

Zack (woodb3kmaster): Hi, Zack! Thanks, my friend! Sadly, that's not one of my own custom lots. It's part of the University of Clayhurst pack, put together by your great friend and mine, Jon (JBSimio)! As of right now, I believe the pack is exclusive to the SC4D LEX DVD, but I'll have to check back with you on that one.



OK, it's time!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Jeopardy.jpg)

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head colspan=3]
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 17[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[head][/head]
[head][/head]
[head]
___________________________________________________________________[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$400[/data]
[data]
VOWELLESS FRUIT[/data]
[data]KMQT[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$800[/data]
[data]
REALLY BUSY AIRPORTS[/data]
[data]The cream of Bavaria: MUC[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[data]
EUROPEAN BODIES OF WATER[/data]
[data]The major cities on this 1200-mile long Russian rive incluse Voronezh and Rostov-on-"this"[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[data]
CANADIAN GEOGRAPHY[/data]
[data]The Vikings visited L'Anse aux Meadows in this province[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$2000[/data]
[data]
NOT ONE, NOT 2, BUT 3 O'S[/data]
[data]Staying up too later on SC4D can give you these reddened eyes[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

CATEGORY EXPLANATIONS
For "Not One, Not 2, But 3 O's," each correct answer will be a word with 3 O's in it.
For "Vowelless Fruit," the clue gives the name of a fruit without the vowels. Name that fruit.
For "Really Busy Airports," please give the city of the airport described, not the airport name.



My plan for the rest of the evening is this—

1. Download the patch to the University of Clayhurst pack! (Thanks again, Jon!)
2. MD Stats...It's Wednesday, right?
3. Eat.
4. Get into SC4 and wrap up the next update!
5. Wrap presents.

With any luck, I'll be able to get all of that done! Eating isn't a necessity, though, so I miss that one, I'll do it tomorrow!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 17, 2008, 03:42:32 PM
$2000: What is bloodshot?
$1600: What is Newfoundland and Labrador?
$800: What is Munich?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: homefryes on December 17, 2008, 03:44:00 PM
$400 VOWELLESS FRUIT = What is a kamquat?
$800 REALLY BUSY AIRPORTS  = What is Munich/München?
$2000 NOT ONE, NOT 2, BUT 3 O'S = What is bloodshot?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on December 17, 2008, 04:03:36 PM
$400 What is a kumquat?
$800 What is Munich?
$1200
$1600 Where is Nova Scotia?
$2000 What is bloodshot? (knew that one from experience, but look who I'm talking to)

Thanks for the info about the terrain and all Dustin. It idid answer my questions. I've never seen it do that before (but then I don't often hit the higher elevations). Best of luck with your projects this evening. Take it easy.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on December 17, 2008, 04:26:00 PM
$1200: What is the Don River?

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on December 18, 2008, 09:08:02 AM
It looks like I may have missed out (again  ()what()), but I'll give my answers anyway.

$400 What is a kumquat?
$800 What is Munich?
$2000 What is bloodshot?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 18, 2008, 02:48:24 PM
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Zack (woob3kmaster): Hey, Zack! We'll see how you did in a second!

homefryes: We'll see how you did, too!

Matt (threestooges): Thanks for playing, Matt! And I'm glad I was able to answer your question!

Dan (dsrwhat316): Hmmmm...

metarvo: Hello! Thanks for playing along! And don't worry, we have a little bit more to go!



First, we'll start with today's picture!

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DECEMBER 18

The simplicity, the blueness of the water, the lulling sensation of the waves, the—Oh, who am I kidding? They can't all be winners, can they?

Just kidding!

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DECEMBER 18

Today's real picture! Just having a bit of fun...

The NDEX Old Post Office (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=15266) by ardecila has always been one of my favorite buildings! Just be careful, as it can cause crashes to desktop!



(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Jeopardy.jpg)

Moving forward!

Official results for December 17...

$400: Matt (threestooges), What is Kumquat?
$800: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Munich / München?
$1200: Dan (dsrwhat316), What is the Don River?
$1600: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Newfoundland?
$2000: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is bloodshot?

We had another spelling issue this round—homefryes, I could not accept your answer of "kamquat" for the $400 question because you have to fill in the vowels, and you used an "A" instead of a "U" for the first vowel. Sorry!

Here's the standings...

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head]
CONTESTANT[/head]
[head]
WINNINGS[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Zack (woodb3kmaster)[/data]
[data]
$9600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Robin (rooker1)[/data]
[data]
$4800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Paul (paroch)[/data]
[data]
$3400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Dan (dsrwhat316)[/data]
[data]
$2800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]alan_vzla[/data]
[data]
$2600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]projectadam[/data]
[data]
$2600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Carmine (CarmineHilton)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Derry (TheTeaCat)[/data]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Jon (JBSimio)[/data]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]homefryes[/data]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Matt (threestooges)[/data]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Joan (Jmouse)[/data]
[data]
$400[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

Just when the distance between Zack (woodb3kmaster) was shrinking, he opens things back up again! Can anyone catch him? Let's find out!

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head colspan=3]
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 18[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[head][/head]
[head][/head]
[head]
___________________________________________________________________[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$400[/data]
[data]
REALLY BUSY AIRPORTS[/data]
[data]Place for endive & sprouts: BRU[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$800[/data]
[data]
EUROPEAN BODIES OF WATER[/data]
[data]This strait off Sicily links the Tyrrhenian and Ionian Seas[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[data]
CANADIAN GEOGRAPHY[/data]
[data]Canada's Mackenzie River flows into this ocean[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[data]
NOT ONE, NOT 2, BUT 3 O'S[/data]
[data]In humans, any of the threadlike bodies that carry the genes in a linear order[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$2000[/data]
[data]
VOWELLESS FRUIT[/data]
[data]PMGRNT[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

CATEGORY EXPLANATIONS
For "Not One, Not 2, But 3 O's," each correct answer will be a word with 3 O's in it.
For "Vowelless Fruit," the clue gives the name of a fruit without the vowels. Name that fruit.
For "Really Busy Airports," please give the city of the airport described, not the airport name.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: homefryes on December 18, 2008, 02:52:44 PM
$400 REALLY BUSY AIRPORTS = Brussels
$2000 VOWELLESS FRUIT = Pomagranate
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on December 18, 2008, 03:03:29 PM
That's an interesting building! It looks great on that highway.
And the water one was funny.  :D

$800 What is the Strait of Sicilia?
$1200 What is the Arctic Ocean?
$1600 What is a chromosome?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 18, 2008, 03:35:48 PM
Again a nice teaser! And congrats on over 400 replies!

Looking forward to more... ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on December 18, 2008, 03:37:55 PM
$400: Where is Brussels?
$800: What is the Strait of Sicily?
$1200: What is the Arctic Ocean?
$1600: What is a chromosome?
$2000: What is a pomegranate?

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on December 18, 2008, 03:43:14 PM
$400: Where is Brussels?
$1200: What is the Arctic Ocean?
$2000: What is a pomegranate?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 18, 2008, 04:45:36 PM
Wow, Dustin, you certainly have a lot of nice buildings clustered around the Old Post Office! I see plenty that I've seen in other MDs, but your use of them looks really nice. Good work!

Now, since I missed out on answering most of the clues, here's my one answer for today:

$800: What is the Strait of Messina?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 18, 2008, 06:32:49 PM
Another nice daily! I like that post office, too, ever since I saw it in an MD a few months ago. It's always great to see ideas that depart from the norm - who says all buildings have to face a street anyway?

Later...
Joan

*EDIT* Love that water mod, too! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 19, 2008, 01:28:24 PM
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homefryes: Thank you for playing, my friend!

deathtopumpkins: I'm glad you enjoyed the water picture! I have to mix things up somehow, right?

bat: Thank you so much, bat! Without your continued support, we never would have made it this far! Couldn't have done it without you!

Dan (dsrwhat316): Thanks for playing, Dan! Let's see how you did!

metarvo: Hi, my friend! The officials answers are on the way!

Zack (woodb3kmaster): Hey, Zack! Thanks so much for your kind words, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): Hello, Joan! I'm glad you like the post office—it was one of the first BATs that I can remember downloading. It's always been a favorite of mine! And I'm glad you like the water mod, too, my friend! Take care!



(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

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DECEMBER 19

Another simple FAR shot—I just do not tire of making these!



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Official results for December 18...

$400: homefryes, What is Brussels?
$800: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is the Straits of Messina?
$1200: deathtopumpkins, What is the Arctic Ocean?
$1600: deathtopumpkins, What is Chromosome?
$2000: Dan (dsrwhat316), What is pomegranate?

We had another spelling error...homefryes spelled "pomegranate" as "pomagranate," and since spelling is essential for the clue, we could not give it to you. Sorry!

Money!

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head]
CONTESTANT[/head]
[head]
WINNINGS[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Zack (woodb3kmaster)[/data]
[data]
$10400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Dan (dsrwhat316)[/data]
[data]
$4800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Robin (rooker1)[/data]
[data]
$4800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Paul (paroch)[/data]
[data]
$3400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]deathtopumpkins[/data]
[data]
$2800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]alan_vzla[/data]
[data]
$2600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]projectadam[/data]
[data]
$2600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Carmine (CarmineHilton)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]homefryes[/data]
[data]
$1400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Derry (TheTeaCat)[/data]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Jon (JBSimio)[/data]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Matt (threestooges)[/data]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Joan (Jmouse)[/data]
[data]
$400[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

Zack may have things wrapped up here! Here's the last round of Double Jeopardy!

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head colspan=3]
FRIDAY, DECEMBER 19[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[head][/head]
[head][/head]
[head]
___________________________________________________________________[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$400[/data]
[data]
EUROPEAN BODIES OF WATER[/data]
[data]A Baltic cruise takes you into this gulf to visit the largest city in the three Baltic States[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$800[/data]
[data]
CANADIAN GEOGRAPHY[/data]
[data]Lake Okanagan in this province is the reported home of the Ogopogo[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[data]
NOT ONE, NOT 2, BUT 3 O'S[/data]
[data]A citation or comment at the bottom of a page[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[data]
VOWELLESS FRUIT[/data]
[data]KW[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$2000[/data]
[data]
REALLY BUSY AIRPORTS[/data]
[data]Same city: LHR or LGW[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

CATEGORY EXPLANATIONS
For "Not One, Not 2, But 3 O's," each correct answer will be a word with 3 O's in it.
For "Vowelless Fruit," the clue gives the name of a fruit without the vowels. Name that fruit.
For "Really Busy Airports," please give the city of the airport described, not the airport name.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on December 19, 2008, 01:33:48 PM
For $2000: Whats is London?
For $1600: What is Kiwi?
For $800: What is British Columbia?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on December 19, 2008, 01:41:04 PM
$800 CANADIAN GEOGRAPHY : What is British Columbia ?
$1600 VOWELLESS FRUIT: What is Kiwi ?
$2000 REALLY BUSY AIRPORTS: What is London ?

So excellent update, dustin, I love your highway and this teaser.  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on December 19, 2008, 01:45:09 PM
Sorry for double posting, didn't want to edit. &mmm

I was wondering for certain time now, which train skin do you use, because it's very good... not too modern but not too old neither... tanks in advance. Great picture, tough I don't like the birch trees (I think), they look to bright for me.

Oh... I think I might have another answer, Considering that Latvia can be taken as a baltic state (not sure what three states are you referring to)... I dare to say that for $400: What is gulf of Riga?

Last but not least, let me say that you have a very good Md and I wish the best for it
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bluesinjid on December 19, 2008, 01:46:57 PM
For $400: What is gulf of Riga?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 19, 2008, 02:03:21 PM
$1200: What is a footnote?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on December 19, 2008, 02:55:02 PM
Damn! This is what I get for coming home from work late  :P

Another great shot you have provided here. Hopefully there'll be another round to play soon!

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on December 19, 2008, 04:36:32 PM
Another great picture, Dustin, though i think I'll skip on this round of jeopardy.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 19, 2008, 06:20:16 PM
Great daily! I love trains on curves - if you don't believe me just ask tooheys! ;) The trees and crops look good, too, and that's one Texas-size jack rabbit at the bottom center! :D

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: SpilltMilk on December 19, 2008, 06:40:36 PM
$1600 - What is a Kiwi?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on December 19, 2008, 07:38:23 PM
Nice work with the double Jeopardy rounds Dustin. Fun clues. As for your recent pic, it has been a while since I've seen the post office used (and you've used it well) and the rural rail looks great. How do you manage to get passenger trains so long? Mine usually cut after several cars or so. Great work, you always seem to come up with something new.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 20, 2008, 12:28:28 AM
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alan_vzla: Thanks for getting your answers in, my friend! We'll see how you did in a moment!

Earth quake: Hello! We've missed you around Marathon—I do hope all is well!

alan_vzla: Thanks for posting again, rather than editing, my friend! As for the train skin, it is the VIA Rail Trains (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=14978) by den52. Enjoy!

bluesinjid: Hi! The official answers are on the way!

Zack (woodb3kmaster) Hello there, Zack! We'll be seeing if you've added to your lead very soon!

Dan (dsrwhat316): Hi, Dan! Unfortunately, today was the last round of Double Jeopardy! However, Final Jeopardy! is coming up around the corner, so get ready!

deathtopumpkins: Thank you, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): I've found myself taking a lot of pictures of trains of curves—I think I'm in love with them, too! And that's a big sucker, isn't it? Though, from my experience on the Texas highways (well, I-45 from Dallas to Houston and back) it would have been an armadillo! Thanks for stopping by, Joan!

SpilltMilk: Welcome to Marathon! And thank you for getting in on the game!

Matt (threestooges): Hello, Matt! Thanks for your great comments and support, my friend! On the length of the trains, I usually use a train generator, so I'm not sure if that has any bearing on the length. I can look into it for you, though! Thanks for coming by!



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Official results for December 19...

$400: alan_vzla, What is the Gulf of Riga?
$800: alan_vzla, What is British Columbia?
$1200: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Footnote?
$1600: alan_vzla What is Kiwi?
$2000: alan_vzla, What is London?

And our standings at the end of Double Jeopardy!

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head]
CONTESTANT[/head]
[head]
WINNINGS[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Zack (woodb3kmaster)[/data]
[data]
$11600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]alan_vzla[/data]
[data]
$6800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Dan (dsrwhat316)[/data]
[data]
$4800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Robin (rooker1)[/data]
[data]
$4800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Paul (paroch)[/data]
[data]
$3400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]deathtopumpkins[/data]
[data]
$2800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]projectadam[/data]
[data]
$2600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Carmine (CarmineHilton)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]homefryes[/data]
[data]
$1400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Derry (TheTeaCat)[/data]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Jon (JBSimio)[/data]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Matt (threestooges)[/data]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Joan (Jmouse)[/data]
[data]
$400[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

In the eleventh hour, alan_vzla made a huge leap, but Zack (woob3kmaster) still has a commanding lead headed into Final Jeopardy! It is, by no means, a runaway, though!

As for Final Jeopardy!, there will be more on that over the weekend...

OK, let's continue!


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DECEMBER 20

One word—xannepan!

The Gare du Nord (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1420) is, hands down, my favorite train station ever, and the Bourse de Commerces (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1525) is simply incredible! When you have amazing custom content like this, all you have to do is take the picture and let their magnificence shine through!

Updates (note the plural!) on the horizon...I know, I know! I've been saying that for a week!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: sim-al2 on December 20, 2008, 05:57:59 PM
 :o  Oxygen starvation...   ...must reach bottled air. :D
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 20, 2008, 06:06:16 PM
Some great pictures the last few days, Dustin!

I missed a couple while battling the holiday travelers, but I'm rather glad you haven't gotten to that promised full update yet.  (I'd never catch up if you had!)  I loved the water!  It looked so... um... BLUE!  And also very... hmmm... WET!  Yeah, that's it... ;)  In all seriousness, I do like the post office building with the highway running through.  It's almost too bad there was never a version made for sunken highways.  (Hmmm... might be something to think about for me someday... ;) )  Either way, you managed to make it fit very well.

You can post FARR pictures all day and I won't mind a bit.  You have a great eye for capturing images that are fairly simple and yet still very full of detail and life.   &apls

Nice dog... and also nice to see Santa sporting a little bling... :D

As for today's picture... well you already summed it up perfectly.  When you find buildings like that, no more really needs to be said!

See you next time, my friend!
JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on December 21, 2008, 02:23:27 AM
That sure is an awesome pic there Dustin - great custom content or not, you still have to plop 'em and get the traffic to flow!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Earth quake on December 21, 2008, 03:04:56 AM
Wow, dustin.  &apls
Excellent update.
I like the "gare du nord", It's my favourite bat (because I'm french)

So, I want a new update or teaser.  $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 21, 2008, 04:41:35 AM
Great work on that newest picture there, Dustin! It is looking wonderful!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 21, 2008, 05:38:19 PM
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sim-al2: Ha! Thank you, though I hope your got some air, my friend!

Jon (JBSimio): Hi, Jon! Those holiday travelers are insane, aren't they? Things have been compounded here in the Northeast by inclement weather, so I've been sticking close to home as much as possible. Thank you so very much for your wonderful comments, too, my friend! And, you're definitely right about the buildings, too! There's other ones that "stand alone in magnificence"—The Citizen Building, the Stearns Building, the Buder Building...well, you get the point! Hope you're weekend is going well, my friend!

Paul (paroch): Hi, Paul! Thanks so much, my friend!

Earth quake: Bonjour! I love the Gare du Nord, too. It's absolutely wonderful! Thanks for coming by, my friend!

bat: Hi, bat! Thanks so much for your support!



OK! Let's see what we have for this last Sunday before Christmas...

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DECEMBER 21

Nothing says "Christmas" like an arena and a ballpark! These extraordinary BATs are courtesy of teemu_om, and can be found at ST. The Toyota Center (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=18535) is on the STEX, however Safeco Field—home of Major League Baseball's Seattle Mariners—is too large to be offered on the STEX, so it can be found in the North American Stadiums (http://) thread, started by teemu_om over at ST.

And speaking of the Houston's Toyota Center...I was actually fortunate enough to go there back in April to see Bruce Springsteen...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/Texas%202008/f5c3f03a.jpg)

Great show at a great arena in a great city. Though, I must admit, I've been in so many arenas that a pretty much all look alike inside!

Be on the lookout tomorrow, too for the official rules and start of our Final Jeopardy! round!

See you then!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on December 21, 2008, 06:16:52 PM
So sorry mate to had miss a lot of your great work , but you know what is RL . Brillant idea the Jeopardy game &apls &apls , even if had no time to play ;D Great pic too and for the rest an Happy Holidays and take care :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bluesinjid on December 21, 2008, 08:29:36 PM
Wow now those stadiums really fit your cj perfectly! I agree they are really top of the line stadiums! &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 21, 2008, 11:27:32 PM
Great couple of dailies there, Dustin! You seem to be faring quite well during the holiday rush - completely organized, etc. - while I'm still looking for the "Start" gate! :thumbsup: I don't know how you do it, but that's one tutorial you could make a million bucks on if you're willing to share!

And since I'm so far behind, I'll backtrack and agree that you won't see many jackrabbits between Dallas and Houston. But go a bit farther west and they're thicker than squirrels during the pecan harvest. We used to have a deer lease at Lampasas, about an hour or so NNW of Austin where we bagged a whole lot more jackrabbits than we did deer! :D Those were fun times long ago and far away. :)

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 22, 2008, 03:43:57 AM
Wonderful new picture there for yesterday! It looks really nice!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 22, 2008, 02:08:17 PM
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kimcar: Hi, my friend! Don't worry about missing stuff, it's OK! I hope all is well, and thank you for the great comments and holiday wishes!

bluesinjid: Thanks so much, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): Hey, Joan! I have to say that part of my delay on starting an MD was the fact that I wanted to come up with some kind of organizational system for doing things, both in the game and as well as on the update and actual "MDing" end of things. I think I've got it pretty well figured out for now! And it sounds like the areas around Austin, Texas, have a lot of fun going, too! When I was at the concert in Houston, we met some people there that kept telling us that we have to get to Austin and check things out. Maybe next time I'm down in the Lone Star State, I'll have to get there! Take care, my friend!

bat: Danke, bat!



We'll start today with...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Dec27.jpg)
DECEMBER 22

...our picture!

Another simple downtown intersection picture. I enjoy making pictures like this because there's really no rules, just make sure you put buildings together that fit with each other, and you're on your way!

And what else do we have for today, hmmm...Oh! That's right—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Jeopardy.jpg)

FINAL JEOPARDY!

Originally, I was going to have everyone make wagers based on their total winnings, but then I figured that might get a bit too confusing, so instead we'll do Final Jeopardy! the same way as the first two rounds, only we'll have two rounds—today and tomorrow—with three questions apiece, and increased money values.

This is for all the marbles...Good luck!

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head colspan=3]
FINAL JEOPARDY!
MONDAY, DECEMBER 22[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[head][/head]
[head][/head]
[head]
___________________________________________________________________[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[data]
MEDITERRANEAN GEOGRAPHY[/data]
[data]This southern Greek peninsula was once called Morea, or "Mulberry", for its mulberry-leaf shape[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$2500[/data]
[data]
ON THE MAP[/data]
[data]Name two of the three countries classified as extending across two continents[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$5000[/data]
[data]
WORLD CAPITALS[/data]
[data]This capital city of 113,000 is the closest national capital to the Arctic Circle[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]



Oh, and there will be an update later tonight...or else!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on December 22, 2008, 02:18:56 PM
great picture Dustin, you use the good BAT to go here.  &apls &apls
The pictures I missed are also great my friend, good work with the Toyota Center and the stadium on the left top, combined with a great train station !  :thumbsup:
As for the "quizz"

$1000 => What is Mani Peninsula ?

$2500 => What is Russia and Turkey ?

$5000 => What is Reykjavík ?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: CasperVg on December 22, 2008, 02:21:57 PM
Oops, sorry for not having a peek in here for the past few days, but I must say I liked everything I catched up with.

Gah, you beat me to them, Arthur!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 22, 2008, 04:15:00 PM
Oh, I really like this daily - the foggy atmosphere is very well done without being overdone. :thumbsup:
Good luck to the Jeopardy contestants, and to all a Merry Christmas, a Happy Holiday Season and a Happy New Year!.

Later...

Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [12/22/08]: UPDATE XII: STR...Simply Tremendous...
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 22, 2008, 07:38:22 PM
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Arthur (art128): Thanks for playing, my friend! We'll see how you did in a little bit!

Casper (caspervg): Hi, Casper! No worries, this time of year is hectic for all of us!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi there, Joan! I'm glad you enjoyed today's picture! And a Happy Holidays to you, too, my friend!



(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Jeopardy.jpg)

Official results for December 22...

$1000: No correct answers, yet.
$2500: Arthur (art128), What are Russia and Turkey (Egypt is the third)?
$5000: Arthur (art128), What is Reykjavik?

The $1000 question is still up for grabs, though Arthur has punched a big hole in the lead that Zack (woodb3kmaster) has for himself!

Moving on...




UPDATE XII
STR...Simply Tremendous Rails!
(Or, ST—(A)Ren't These Amazing?!!?)

22 December 2008

So, here's that update I've been mentioning for a little while now...though, truth be told, it's not the update I had in mind the whole time. But, something pretty incredible has come up!

You're probably already aware by now, but our great friend David (dedgren) and the RAM Team have unveiled the first BETA Test group for the Single Track Rails, or STR, over at 3RR (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=112.0).

Well, since I have the pleasure and the privilege of being a BETA Tester, I thought that I would put together a bit of a "Who's Who?" of the STR!

We start with...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12001.jpg)

...the STR pieces themselves!

1. Starter Piece
2. 90° Curve
3. 45° Curve
4. 90° Curve Off STR Switch
5. 45° Curve Off STR Switch
6. 90° Curve Off Dual Rail Straight Switch
7. 45° Curve Off Dual Rail Straight Switch
8. Single Track to Parallel STR Switch
9. Double Track to Parallel STR Switch
10. S-Curve
11. Double to Single Track Transition
12. Diagonal STR to Orthogonal STR Switch
13. Diagonal Dual Rail to Orthogonal STR Switch
14. Diagonal S-Curve
15. Straight Filler Piece
16. Diagonal Filler Piece

The Starter Piece...

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...allows for draggable STR...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12003.jpg)

...which inof itself, is pretty groundbreaking!

There's some little things to be aware, though...

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Circled above, you can see that after placing one of the ploppable pieces (the 90° Curve Off STR Switch in the above picture), the regular dual rail pieces are at the end. How do we handle that, you ask?

Well, for one thing, DO NOT...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12005.jpg)

...try to delete them!

Taking a step back—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12006.jpg)

What you can do is...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12007.jpg)

...plop a starter piece facing the dual rail section...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12008.jpg)

... then just connect them!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12009.jpg)

Here's the switch all finished up.

Here's a few pieces in action!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12010.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12011.jpg)

And where would we be with out a bit of eye-candy?

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12012.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12013.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12014.jpg)

Tunnels work, too...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12015.jpg)

More eye-candy...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12016.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12017.jpg)

And one last picture with me fooling around!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2012/12018.jpg)

So that is the STR as it stands now. Since it's only in a BETA, I'm sure that things will be tweaked here and there. If and when they are, I'll be sure to address them here!

If you're looking for more STR stuff, or just looking for something incredible to look at, I'd suggest heading straight over to 3RR (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=112.0) immediately!

See you over there!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on December 22, 2008, 07:44:28 PM
Excellent STR pics Dustin!

As for the $1000 Jeopardy question though, I'm stumped.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: sim-al2 on December 22, 2008, 08:15:31 PM
That last one is completly orginal. ::) Just to add one thing, NEVER bulldoze a diagonal section! It will destroy the whole segment! :angrymore:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on December 22, 2008, 08:35:13 PM
looks like you have yourself a new toy  :D... Great informative update and, as always, excellent pictures.

As for the $1000 question... I recently did a work related to European Geography... so I dare to say: for $1000 what is Peloponnese?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on December 23, 2008, 03:54:09 AM
Dustin, you do an excellent job with the STR my friend.
Can't wait for more !  &apls

Arthur.  ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 23, 2008, 05:36:07 AM
Great new picture there! And update 12 is also nice! Wonderful testing of the STR! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 23, 2008, 01:38:22 PM
Thanks for the clear and concise info on STR, Dustin. It is sure to come in handy for testing - just having a picture of the different pieces is a huge help. I received a replacement for the defective graphic card today, so I'm hoping to do some testing in the next few days.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 23, 2008, 01:49:14 PM
Great update, Dustin!   &apls

The new STR pieces look incredible and very useful.  I'm extremely impressed that there are even tunnel capabilities for this already.  I particularly enjoyed the tunnel picture and the one directly above it.

And of course, the previous two "dailies" that I missed were equally great.  The downtown intersection is very well done and I really like how all those buildings fit together.

Oh... and I'm flattered that you would include such buildings in your list of stand alones.  You're too kind my friend and I thank you!

See you next time,
JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 23, 2008, 02:28:20 PM
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deathtopumpkins: Hey, there! Thanks so much!

sim-al2: Ha! Thanks! Oh, and thanks for the tip on not bulldozing the diagonals!

alan_vzla: Hi, my friend! I'm glad you enjoyed the update! And we'll see if your European geography work paid off!

Arthur (art128): Thanks, Arthur!

bat: Thanks so much for coming by, bat!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! I'm glad you'll get some use out of the update, my friend! For me, part of the difficulty in something new like the STR is sorting out what is what, and what goes with what, etc. I usually plop all the pieces out like I did in the first picture when I get something new, so I thought that I'd share it! Good luck with your testing, too—I can't wait to see what you come up with!

Jon (JBSimio): Hello, Jon! The STR is just fantastic, isn't it? I put the tunnel picture together wondering if it would work, but then I thought, "Wait! David had his hand in this..." Then, there was no doubt in my mind that there would be tunnels! And as for your buildings being on my list of stand-alones, they speak for themselves, my friend. I could make 31 different pictures just using your work, and each one would be magnificent—well, the buildings would be, I don't know about the pictures! Thanks for coming by, my friend!



(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM.jpg)

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DECEMBER 23

It's almost Christmas, so I thought I'd spice up the pictures for the last couple days before the holiday!

Just another FAR picture, this one climbing a mountain at sunset.



Now...

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Official results for December 22...

$1000: alan_vzla, What is the Peloponnesian Peninsula?
$2500: Arthur (art128), What are Russia and Turkey (Egypt is the third)?
$5000: Arthur (art128), What is Reykjavik?

And our standings...

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head]
CONTESTANT[/head]
[head]
WINNINGS[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Zack (woodb3kmaster)[/data]
[data]
$11600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]alan_vzla[/data]
[data]
$7800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Arthur (art128)[/data]
[data]
$7500[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Dan (dsrwhat316)[/data]
[data]
$4800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Robin (rooker1)[/data]
[data]
$4800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Paul (paroch)[/data]
[data]
$3400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]deathtopumpkins[/data]
[data]
$2800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]projectadam[/data]
[data]
$2600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Carmine (CarmineHilton)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]homefryes[/data]
[data]
$1400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Derry (TheTeaCat)[/data]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Jon (JBSimio)[/data]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Matt (threestooges)[/data]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Joan (Jmouse)[/data]
[data]
$400[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

Heading into the home stretch, Zack (woodb3kmaster) still holds onto his lead, but it's far from over!

The second and final Final Jeopardy! round will be posted at 8:38 PM (20:38) EST tonight! Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 23, 2008, 03:42:38 PM
Nice picture there for the 23rd December! Happy Holidays to you, too! ;)

Looking forward to the pictures for tomorrow... :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 23, 2008, 04:26:43 PM
That's another great picture, Dustin! You're great at combining the various NAM curved pieces to create the nicest rural roads. Also, your placement of trees really gives the scene atmosphere.

I hope I can defend my lead tonight! I'll need to keep an eye on Marathon for sure.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on December 23, 2008, 05:43:02 PM
Heh, that FAR road looks a little bumpy...  :D

Oh, the $1000 question was the Peloponnesian? Hmm... I should have guessed that.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 23, 2008, 07:38:14 PM
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bat: Fröhliche Weihnachten! Thanks for coming by, my friend! I'm glad you enjoyed today's picture!

Zack (woodb3kmaster): Thanks so much, Zack! And it's time to see if you're lead holds up!

deathtopumpkins: Just a bit bumpy! But, hey! What good mountain road isn't? Thanks for coming by, my friend!



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Here we go...


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[row]
[head colspan=3]
FINAL JEOPARDY!
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 23[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[head][/head]
[head][/head]
[head]
___________________________________________________________________[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[data]
WORLD FLAGS[/data]
[data]This Mediterranean country is the world's only nation whose flag bears a geographic outline of itself[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$2500[/data]
[data]
PENINSULAR NATIONS[/data]
[data]It's the largest country in the world without any permanent natural rivers or lakes[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]
$5000[/data]
[data]
OLYMPIC CITIES[/data]
[data]Name the two current national captials that have hosted the Winter Olympics[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

Viel Glück!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 23, 2008, 07:40:39 PM
$1000: What is Cyprus?
$2500: What is Saudi Arabia?

I'll have to think about the third clue some more...

OK, I've got it!

$5000: What are Stockholm and Moscow?

EDIT: Merged. - Dustin (thundercrack83)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 23, 2008, 07:44:39 PM
$5000 Where is Athens Greece and Sydney Australia?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 23, 2008, 11:58:33 PM
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Zack (woodb3kmaster): Waiting in the wings to protect that lead...I like that! Play to win, that's my motto! We'll see how you did, my friend!

Robin (rooker1): Hey, Robin! The official word's on the way!



(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Jeopardy.jpg)

Official results for December 23...

$1000: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Cyprus?
$2500: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Saudi Arabia?
$5000: No correct answers, yet.

The big money clue is still up for grabs! I'd suggest reading it very closely, though—Zack and Robin both made a crucial error.

In the meantime, it's after midnight here in Pennsylvania, which means it's...

CHRISTMAS EVE!

Today's picture will be coming later today, probably the usual afternoon time. I have to get the rest of the presents wrapped now.

See you in a bit!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 24, 2008, 12:24:29 AM
For $5,000:
What are Innsbruck, Austria and Oslo, Norway?

(Hope I understood the answer correctly!) :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: projectadam on December 24, 2008, 01:38:18 AM
Wow, tough question that I will be awaiting the answer. I believe that there has only been one current National Capital that has hosted the Winter Olympics and that would be "Where is Oslo, Norway."

Playing a little bit of catch up here but I thought the picture that you showcased the Gare du Nord was an excellent picture. Some great eye candy for the STR too, I think the picture with the tunnel has a great mix of road, rail and nature.

Hope you have Happy Holidays and a great start to a New Year Dustin :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on December 24, 2008, 03:02:57 AM
Dustin I am sorry Ive missed so much wonderful stuff here wow!!! I missed my chance to play jeopardy dang it ooh well it seems as it was a blast!! you have been doing some wonderful stuff here and with the STR too!!! I will also like to take this time to wish you a very merry christmas my friend and have a great day!!!

pat
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 24, 2008, 03:50:28 AM
$5000: What are Oslo and Sarajevo? (I can't find other capitals who have hosted the Winter Olympics...)
Sarajevo wasn't a capital when it hosted the Winter Olympics (host country was Yugoslavia in 1984), but now it is one (of Bosnia and Herzegovina)...

And looking forward to the picture for today....
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: projectadam on December 24, 2008, 04:04:17 AM
$5000: What are Oslo and Sarajevo? (I can't find other capitals who have hosted the Winter Olympics...)
Sarajevo wasn't a capital when it hosted the Winter Olympics (host country was Yugoslavia in 1984), but now it is one (of Bosnia and Herzegovina)...

And looking forward to the picture for today....

Great catch bat &apls, I think you are correct. I completely forgot that Sarajevo hosted.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bluesinjid on December 24, 2008, 09:36:03 AM
Wow I missed the STR and im impressed with it! Have a Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on December 24, 2008, 12:07:05 PM
Hey my firned, sorry for missing the last update... but we went on a trip and there was no Internet... those forests look good!

Anyway... to give a final shot at this wonderful game of yours i'll say for $5000: What are Sarajevo and Oslo?

Hoping to see more of this very fine MD...

Merry Christmas
Alan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 24, 2008, 01:38:17 PM
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Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! Let's see if you're correct!

projectadam: Hello, my friend! Happy Holidays! There's another national capital that hosted, but the official word will tell us what it is!And thanks for you great comments on the pictures, too!

Pat: Merry Christmas to you, too, my friend! We've missed you around here! But that's OK, this time of year is always really hectic! Take care!

bat: Hmmmm...We'll see...

bluesinjid: Thank you, my friend! And a Merry Christmas to you, too!

alan_vzla: Hello! Don't worry about missing things, my friend—I hope you enjoyed your trip! And Merry Christmas to you, as well!



Our Christmas Eve picture!

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DECEMBER 24

It's a mosaïc!

Playing around with trying to make some cookie-cutter, low-income neighborhoods, juxtaposed with a more urban, low-income setting using the fantastic NYC Housing Projects (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1873) by marcszar. Things are a bit repetitive, but that was part of what I was going for. The neighborhood was loosely inspired by Levittown, New York (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levittown,_NY), which was built as a planned community after World War II.



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Official results for December 23...

$1000: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Cyprus?
$2500: Zack (woodb3kmaster), What is Saudi Arabia?
$5000: bat, What are Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Oslo, Norway?

The word "current" was crucial for the clue. As bat pointed out, Sarajevo was not a national capital when it hosted the Winter Olympics in 1984, but is now a current one. This question seemed to give some fits! First, Robin and Zack missed "Winter" in the clue and named Summer Olympics host cities, and then the Sarajevo confusion! Speaking of Summer Olympic host cities that are national capitals, there's been a bunch: Athens (1896, 2004), Paris (1900, 1924), London (1908, 1049, 2012), Stockholm (1912), Amsterdam (1928), Berlin (1936), Helsinki (1952), Rome (1960), Tokyo (1964), Mexico City (1968), Moscow (1980), Seoul (1988), and Beijing (2008). What can I say? I like the Olympics!

But anyway...Our final standings—

[tabular type=5]
[row]
[head]
CONTESTANT[/head]
[head]
WINNINGS[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Zack (woodb3kmaster)[/data]
[data]
$14100[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]alan_vzla[/data]
[data]
$7800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Arthur (art128)[/data]
[data]
$7500[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]bat[/data]
[data]
$5000[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Dan (dsrwhat316)[/data]
[data]
$4800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Robin (rooker1)[/data]
[data]
$4800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Paul (paroch)[/data]
[data]
$3400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]deathtopumpkins[/data]
[data]
$2800[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]projectadam[/data]
[data]
$2600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Carmine (CarmineHilton)[/data]
[data]
$1600[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]homefryes[/data]
[data]
$1400[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Derry (TheTeaCat)[/data]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Jon (JBSimio)[/data]
[data]
$1200[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Matt (threestooges)[/data]
[data]
$1000[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Joan (Jmouse)[/data]
[data]
$400[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

And our official winner is...

Zack (woodb3kmaster)!
$14100

Congratulations, Zack! You were right on top of things from the beginning and it paid off! So, as promised, I will be donating the amount sufficient to get a BSC LEX DVD and it will be sent to you, my friend! You earned it!

I'd also like to thank everyone for sticking around for three whole weeks and playing Jeopardy! here. Because of you, we were able to have a lot of fun and have a successful game! Thank you all so very much!

And lastly, I wish all of you, my very good friends, a wonderful and Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

We'll see you tomorrow for our Christmas Day picture!

Oh, and just one last thing...

http://www.youtube.com/v/yErhglOXIxM&hl=en&fs=1
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band
"Santa Claus is Coming to Town"
Capitol Theatre in Passaic, New Jersey, September 20, 1978


Bruce and the Band in 1978, at their finest! My favorite part of Christmas and my earliest memory of Bruce Springsteen. I remember back as a four- and five-year-old, in the Born in the U.S.A. madness of 1984-85, hearing this on the radio going to get the Christmas tree with my dad. Still gets me every time, and I got to see him play it in Pittsburgh back in December 2002.
Happy holidays everyone!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on December 24, 2008, 02:38:47 PM
Wow, what a great birthday present - I had forgotten what was at stake in this game! Thanks so much, Dustin!

As to today's picture, I'm really impressed at your skill in making various neighborhoods, especially this low-income area. I'm curious - did you plop all those lots right where you wanted them, or did you have to wait for all the right ones to grow there?

Looking forward to more, as always!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 24, 2008, 03:04:14 PM
Oh well, no luck with Jeopardy &mmm, but that's a fine mosaic you've posted for our Christmas Eve pleasure! We don't see many tenements around these parts, at least not in the smaller cities I prefer, but they're a way of life in many areas. Still, that's a fantastic montage you've created with a wide veriety of elements at work. The transport exchange with highway, avenue, road, rail and even a pedestrian crossing is especially well done - love the underpass!

Once again, the best of holiday wishes to one and all...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on December 24, 2008, 05:45:37 PM
Splendid selection for today Dustin. I agree with Joan about the transport aspect of the pic. All those parts fit together so well it's like they were all built for that spot. Good work to the creators, as well as the one who did all the dirty work of putting them together. The projects look really neat too, but I don't see as much congestion/people as I would expect for such a dense area, ah well, they're probably all on the trains down there. Lastly, congratulations woodb3kmaster on the Jeopardy win, and the CD that is to come. Thank you too Dustin for contributing such a fine prize. Merry Christmas Dustin, and I'll be curious to see what you have for the rest of the month.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 24, 2008, 06:29:25 PM
Quite a mosaic you've presented as well, Dustin!  ;)   &apls  &apls

Oddly enough, you've picked one of my least favorite houses as the basis for your neighborhood.  Standing alone, as you've done... it works very well and it looks good.  I've always avoided it, not because it's a bad looking house (it's really not at all!), but just because it sticks out so much when surrounded by other houses.  But I digress... The tenaments look great across the freeway there.  I can imagine the whole area as one neighborhood until the highway created a new border.  Urban renewal struck in different ways on either side... or at least that's how my overworked imagination sees it.   ::)

Merry Christmas, my freind!
JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bluesinjid on December 24, 2008, 09:15:48 PM
Wow whata nice mosaic! The ghetto to me actually looks really well made! &apls Never thought repitition would look so good  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Lilojame on December 24, 2008, 10:48:31 PM
Hi, my friend!
I feel so bad for missing on so much of wonderful updates in this gorgeous MD of yours. I hope, that you can forgive me. Let me just say, that you are doing a superb work in here with everything. Congrats on successful Jeopardy! That was quite an undertaking. I like all the pictures you have posted very much indeed! And that little doggy of yours is so darn cute! We are thinking of getting a dog also, just cant quite decide which one. Tell me please, if this breed is kind to kids?

Anyhow, let me again say, that Commonwealth of Marathon is a wonderful MD!

Merry Christmas, my friend!

Karin
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 25, 2008, 02:58:32 AM
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Zack (woodb3kmaster): Well, lots to say...Happy birthday! Merry Christmas! Congratulations! We'll figure out the logistics of getting your prize out to you as soon as the holiday is over. And to answer your question, yes, I did plop everything in the picture. My obsessive-compulsive side tends to fight against growing things, since I can't really control what happens! Thanks for coming by, my friend, and enjoy the holiday!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! I'm glad you enjoyed the mosaïc! As for the tenements, there's not too many of them around where I live either, but I've seen similar set-ups that served as inspiration in my frequent trips to the Philadelphia area. Hope you're having a Merry Christmas, my friend!

Matt (threestooges): Merry Christmas, Matt! Thanks so much for your great comments, my friend! You're right about the congestion, too. I would have liked to get more in there, but trying to keep things lined up right for the mosaïc can be a killer! Hope you're having a great holiday!

Jon (JBSimio): Hey, there, Jon! Thank you! I like the Berwick houses, too, though you are right, they can be hard to plop in with other houses. I like your imaginings for the area, too! It makes perfect sense to me! Enjoy your holiday, my friend!

bluesinjid: Thank you so very much! And yes, I was worried about the repetition, too, but I think it turned out OK! Take care!

Karin (Lilojame): Merry Christmas, Karin! I'm so glad you've enjoyed everything so far! As for little Figaro, he is a papillon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papillon_(dog)), and from our experience thus far, he is very friendly with children, and everyone, for that matter. I hope that you and your family are having a wonderful holiday!



It's rather early here—just about 4:00 AM—but, since it's going to be a pretty long day, I thought I'd take care of today's picture now!

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(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Dec25t.jpg) (http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Dec25.jpg)
DECEMBER 25

Something special for all of you, my friends, for the holiday season! You can view the plain version here (http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Dec25u.jpg).

And one more video surprise for Christmas Day...

http://www.youtube.com/v/YVIiLrpVWl0&hl=en&fs=1
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band
"Merry Christmas Baby"
Late Night with Conan O'Brien, December 2002.


Happy Holidays, everyone. You're the greatest friends anyone could have!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: warconstruct on December 25, 2008, 04:30:45 PM
splendid update !
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on December 26, 2008, 04:06:27 AM
Hi Dustin- Happy Christmas my friend.

Great game of Jeopardy - Congrats to Zack on his victory.

Awesome Mosaic there - I like those R$ houses and don't recall seeing them before, a nice neighbourhood you've created.  And the traffic "Corridor" really is well done.  And as others have said, the transition into the tenements is really great.

And a very nice snowy festive pic to wish us all Happy Christmas - very nicely done there.

Any you still have a week of OSITM to go!!

All the best

Paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 26, 2008, 12:01:09 PM
That's a great panorama picture there! And Merry Christmas to you, too!
Fantastic new work on that newest update... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 26, 2008, 02:28:24 PM
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warconstruct: Thank you so much!

Paul (paroch): Merry Christmas to you, to my good friend! I'm so glad that you enjoyed the Christmas Eve and Christmas Day pictures, my friend! I hope you had a wonderful holiday!

bat: Thank you very much, my friend! I hope your Christmas was great!




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DECEMBER 26

Here's our Boxing Day picture! I'm still in love with these seasonal trees, especially the autumn ones!

I hope everyone had a much more "merry" Christmas than I had, as I spent the first half of the day not feeling so well, then the rest of the afternoon and into the evening at emergency for a stomach infection. Not the best way to spend the holiday, I must say! I'm still a bit weak and achy, but I think I'm on the other side of it.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 26, 2008, 04:19:29 PM
Great picture of the seasonal trees there! It is looking beautiful!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 26, 2008, 06:04:23 PM
Hey Dustin, hope you're on the mend and feeling much better! That's a really nice day-after-Christmas pic - I'm a sucker for seasonal trees, too. In fact, it gives me an idea I may want to consult the transit gurus about later on.

Guess it's time now
to wish everyone a Happy New Year. Doesn't seem like nearly a decade has passed since we all sat around and wondered if our grandpas were going to be drafted when Y2K hit! Remember that? ::)

Later...

Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [11/06/08]: UPDATE I: We Begin...at the Beginning!
Post by: Badsim on December 27, 2008, 06:11:48 AM


A word of caution. In response to so many wonderful comments you've all made here thus far, I feel the need to say this up-front in the hopes of quelling any grandiose expectations--my playing skills are mediocre at best, laughable at worst! I will apologize now (first of many, I'm sure) for any lackluster, pedestrian, or otherwise subpar work, and I hope that all of you who have inspired me so much will help push me on the right track! Proceed at your own risk!



Tssss Tsssss , Dustin , what a skilled way to present this MD as a rookie one !  $%Grinno$%

Each and all pictures shown here since , are showing a particularly high mastering . :thumbsup:

 &apls &apls &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 27, 2008, 03:38:13 PM
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bat: Thank you so much, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! I feeling better now, though not quite up to 100% yet. I'm glad you enjoyed yesterday's picture, too! I probably could have done each of the 31 pictures for the month with seasonal trees and not even batted an eyelash! They add such a dimension of detail to things that I just can't get enough of! And an early Happy New Year to you, too! I do remember all the Y2K hubbub—I was a senior in high school when the big switch was made and everyone was hoping that the school was shut down because of it. Alas, nothing happened at all! Hope all is well, Joan!

Cédric (Badsim): Hello, my friend! It's so great to see you hear in Marathon on again! I hope you had a wonderful holiday, and your very kind comments are much appreciated! With unbelievably incredible work done by you and many others here, I still have to stand by my initial statement yet, though I think I'm on the right track! Take care!



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DECEMBER 27

We're slowly winding things down here on December...another industrial shot, just because I absolutely adore any and all factories (or anything, for that matter!) done by Jess (jestarr)!

I've got another update on the block that I need a bit more time to set-up now...Being under the weather really put a damper on things here in Marathon. That's also providing that I can pull myself away from the Wii Fit that I got for Christmas and have finally been able to play around with!

Stay tuned, friends!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 27, 2008, 03:41:34 PM
Hi Dustin,

Just here to catch up on the "dailies" again.  It goes without saying that they all look good as usual.  I couldn't agree more about the Jestarr line of factories and industrials.  I shudder to think where we would all be without them!  I'm sorry to hear that your holiday week got off to a bumpy start... I hope you're feeling better!

JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on December 27, 2008, 03:55:42 PM
Nice pics there Dustin for the last two days - yes, those seasonal trees really are something - funnily enough I tend not to use them much myself despite really liking them!  And that distribution centre looks very nice there.

Great pics - and hope you're firing on all cylinders agains soon.

Paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 27, 2008, 04:12:54 PM
Welcome to page 25! ;)

That's a great new picture there! Wonderful work on that area! It's a nice industrial image! :thumbsup:
Looking forward to the last 4 pictures in this month, in the last 4 days of the year and in your first OSITM-time!!! ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on December 28, 2008, 08:31:56 AM
Ah, nice (seriously!) industrial pics, Dustin!  :thumbsup:

A quick question: are those the original lots made by jestarr, or are the re-lotted by you? I always have my eye out for good lots...  ::)

This MD has had such exponential growth; at this rate, you'll be in the Classics section at the start of the New Year! &hlp

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 28, 2008, 11:06:18 AM
Hey Dustin,

Great to see Jess' bat at work in your city too.  I have all of his stuff in my plugins and believe that it is an absolute must in anyone's plugins.
Just a couple more days and you can relax a little, although I hope you don't relax too much  ::)  ;).

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: warconstruct on December 28, 2008, 01:21:59 PM
Very beautiful image, that predicts large and beautiful industrial park , I am impatient to see the continuation !
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 28, 2008, 02:49:27 PM
You're so right about jestarr's industrials, Dustin. There are none better anywhere, and it looks like you placed them very well. Hope you're getting the best of that virus.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 28, 2008, 04:28:31 PM
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Jon (JBSimio): Hello, there, Jon! You're definitely right about the shuddering, my friend—it would be traumatic to play the game with out them, or all of the great custom content we have at our fingertips these days! Maybe, one of these days, I'll take everything out of my plug-ins folder and try to play the game as-is...See how long I last!

Paul (paroch): Hey, Paul! I think the cylinders are firing pretty well again now, thanks so much, my friend! As for those seasonal trees, well, there just one of the many things that I am so amazed with here at SC4D! Hope all is well with you, Paul! Thanks for coming by!

bat: Thank you, my friend! Three more days after today!

Dan (dsrwhat316): Thank so much, Dan! Unfortunately for me, I did not do any re-lotting on the industrial lots, that is all the work of Jess (jestarr). But hey! How can I improve on such magnificent work, right? It's always good to see you here in Marathon, my friend! Take care!

Robin (rooker1): Hello, Robin! "Absolute must" to say the least! They are like oxygen for anyone even thinking of putting together an industrial area! And don't worry, my friend—while things will certainly slow down here in Marathon come January, it won't be to a standstill by any means...(I hope...)

warconstruct: Bonjour! Thank you so much for your wonderful words, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! I'm almost at 100% now, I think. I'm glad you enjoy the industrials, too! I know you fancy the more rural ones, so today's picture should be a special treat for you then!



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DECEMBER 28

As I said above to Joan (Jmouse)—another rural shot to offset the industry from yesterday, again featuring the wonderful STR! Also, in the bottom left-hand corner are the Center-Pivot Irrigation Fields (CPI), which are another 3RR exclusive, available at the 3RREX (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=5603.0) now!

Still working on that update, but I have to do a bit of holiday visiting that I missed out on while I was convalescing on Christmas Day. My brother is en route to our parents' house from Virginia now, so I'll be heading there first for dinner.

See you soon!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 28, 2008, 06:35:02 PM
Oh yes, if industry is a necessity - rural areas are the luxury. :) There's nothing left but "ahhh" to say about STR. Glad to hear you're beating the virus, too - as long as you're well enough to play SC4 that's all that matters, eh?! ;D

Hope you have a safe and pleasant visit...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on December 28, 2008, 07:36:07 PM
Great rural pic Dustin!  &apls

And I missed the last pic, but I must add my appreciation for jestarr's industrials too. I have every one he's ever released, and I must say they are essential to any industrial area.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 29, 2008, 12:28:18 AM
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Joan (Jmouse): Hey, Joan! Rural areas are a luxury! I like that a lot! And you're right, being well enough to get in there and play is all that matters!

deathtopumpkins: Thank you so much, my friend! I'm happy to hear you like the industrial shot as well! Take care!



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DECEMBER 29

It's after midnight on the Eastern Seaboard and I'll be doing some traveling tomorrow—well, technically today—so we'll get today's picture out of the way now.

A bit of a throwaway picture, but I thought I'd try something a bit different!

Still working on that update, too. Perhaps tomorrow evening sometime? That's certainly not set in stone, though...

Take care!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 29, 2008, 08:31:26 AM
Two great new pictures there! Wonderful work on them! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 29, 2008, 02:38:19 PM
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bat: Thanks, bat! I'm glad you liked them!



Forgive the abrupt and preemptive post, but I just noticed that we've passed...

10,000 views!

In less than a two month span, we've eclipsed 10,000 views...That's over 5000 views a month! I really do not know how to thank you all, this is just incredible!

We're also a stone's throw away from 500 posts and the Classics! I don't know what to say!

Thank you all so very, very much!

Update's on the block!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on December 29, 2008, 04:12:15 PM
 &apls &apls Congrats Dustin . With high quality of work that`s what happen  ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on December 29, 2008, 04:46:40 PM
Congrats Dustin!

/me pushes Marathon one post closer to the classics.

Nice pic yesterday too. A simple one, but it's nice. I love Jeroni's breakwaters.   ;D
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 29, 2008, 05:04:28 PM
Two more great pictures, Dustin.   &apls

The STR looks especially good the way you've used it there.  Today's picture just shows that simple (though it may be) can be just as good as anything else.  Congratulations on all your ridiculously rapid success here!  ;)

JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on December 29, 2008, 05:14:02 PM
Simple and elegant describes that pic, Dustin. Very cool!

Don't worry about stalling to make an update (something I do a lot, as well!); it's better to give quality than quantity. I'm curious to see an update, though  :P!

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 29, 2008, 06:45:56 PM
Nice picture, Dustin. It reminds me of the jetties in Galveston, Texas City, Freeport and around Bolivar where I spent many a happy hour fishing. As mentioned earlier, there's much to be said for the beauty found in simplicity.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [12/28/08]: UPDATE XIV-A: Arteries...
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 29, 2008, 09:08:29 PM
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kimcar: Thank you so very much, my friend!

deathtopumpkins: Thanks for your comments, and for the push toward the Classics!

Jon (JBSimio): Hi, Jon! The STR is just another in a laundry list of things here at SC4D that I simply cannot get enough of! I'm so glad you enjoyed today's picture, too. I felt like it was a bit of a phone-in from my end, though! Take care, my friend!

Dan (dsrwhat316): Thanks, Dan! And I'm definitely with you on quality over quantity! As for the next update, well...

Joan (Jmouse): Hey, Joan! I've never made it down to the Galveston area of Texas, but I'll be heading to Google Maps to check it out! Thanks so much for your continued support, my friend! I don't know where I'd be without you, and not only in Marathon!




UPDATE XIV-A
Arteries, Obsessive-Compulsiveness, and Triskaidekaphobia
29 December 2008

First!

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I hope that answers two questions that some of you may have—why "XIV-A," and what in the world is triskaidekaphobia? Though, you are all very smart folks, I have no doubt that more than a few of you out there knew what it means!

Moving on!

When we last left off on Marathon Island back in UPDATE VIII: The Highway is Alive Tonight, Part II: Nobody's Kiddin' Nobody About Where it Goes (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg203153#msg203153)...

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...That's what the island looked like, highways all placed! So, the next logical step is to get some of the major arteries of the island put in place, isn't it?

To illustrate this my method for doing this, I will employ our trusty friend, Tile E.

First step in the process is tracing the entire border—minus the unnavigable parts, of course!—of the tile. However, at the corners...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13001.jpg)

...I leave a one-tile space and connect to the other tiles accordingly.

Why?

Because I like it that way, that's why!

Ha-ha-ha! Just kidding...powerlines is why. Rather than build a power plant in each tile, I'd like to build a central power facility in the future, and this is just a bit of pre-planning on my part. To do the math:

18 tiles on Marathon Island - 2 (one that is 100% water and 1 that is 98% water) = 16 tiles / 16 power plants!

One power plant on the island would almost certainly be completely unrealistic let alone 16 of them!

Back on track...Here's a zoomed-out shot of the traced borders.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13002.jpg)

Next step!

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As illustrated in the picture, I draw a road that is 30 tiles long, then plop two single road tiles. On those tiles?

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Our first avenue!

We continue the process on the other side...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13005.jpg)

...and...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13006.jpg)

...connect it to the "island ring" that we so meticulously measured the same way, all the way back in UPDATE I: We Begin...At the Beginning! (Or, Constructing Marathon Island) (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg196718#msg196718)!

Following the "30, then 2" process both north-south and east-west, we get this—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13007.jpg)

A grid of arterial avenues for the tile!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13008.jpg)

Now we connect the avenues on each side of our sunken highway with overpasses.

But, while my obsessive-compulsive need for order that foments not only the grid, but the precise construction of it, is always looming, some "randomness" is definitely essential. So...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13009.jpg)

...we'll extend this diagonal! To do so, though, some adjustments to the highway are necessary...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13010.jpg)

Bulldoze...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13011.jpg)

...then build a tunnel!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13012.jpg)

And our diagonal has crossed the highway!

But now we have a bit of a strange intersection—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13013.jpg)

Too strange for that looming obsessive-compulsiveness I alluded to earlier! But, in keeping with the continuing "randomness" theme—or, controlled chaos, as I think of it—we'll tweak things and add...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13014.jpg)

...a roundabout.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13015.jpg)

Above is a zoomed-out shot of where the northern off-shoot of the roundabout leads. Note that I had to line things up with the grid intersection at the top left!

The northeast-southwest diagonal continues through the tile...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13016.jpg)

...until it reaches the southwest corner. I haven't come up with a solution to that other strange corner that's shown here, but as you can probably guess, it's bothering me like crazy!

Now to connect this diagonal!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13017.jpg)

The illustration explains the method, and we get...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13018.jpg)

...this! Next...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13019.jpg)

...we follow the same pattern in the northwest corner, leading us to...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13020.jpg)

...the above.

We're also faced with another odd occurence and corresponding solution...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13021.jpg)

...splitting the avenue! One of my favorite things to do!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13022.jpg)

There's the finished product!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13023.jpg)

And there's a complete overview of the tile!

Using this method—30, then 2; 7 avenues, etc.—I simultaneously feed and fight the obsessive-compulsive demons throughout the entire island, giving us...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13024.jpg)

...the arteries of Marathon island!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014A/13025.jpg)

Here's the same picture with Traffic View.

As you can see, there's a balance between grid and randomness. Well, perhaps not "balance," maybe "parity?" But, in all honesty, despite the fact that my need for order is present in the set-up, realistically, it makes sense to me that these sort of major roads would have a more organized construction. The much more random set-up will come into play when we start filling things in with secondary and tertiary roads.

So, there it is! The next layer of transportation on Marathon Island, and an exploration of my psyche! Odd, isn't it?

See you soon!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on December 29, 2008, 09:18:20 PM
Wow, Dustin. Never knew anybody put that much thought into designing a city's arteries...  :D
I think the final result is spectacular, &apls and that was a very interesting and informative look at the methods you use.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 30, 2008, 12:23:36 AM
That's some amazing work there, Dustin, but the level of preplanning is awesome.

I'm with you on the power plant angle, and you've thought of a good way to deliver electricity. One or two questions come to mind, though. In the third photo (Tile E outlined) the highway runs straight through the quad with no way to get on or off. Surely there will be some ramps to come?

The other questions
that come to mind might be unanswerable at this point in development. What if you find the perfect spot for a certain beloved building and it won't fit - not enough room for it? What if the Sims react negatively to the layout? I've seen them clog streets and roads trying to avoid an avenue for no apparent reason. Also it will be interesting to see how you place schools, fire stations and the like which have specific coverage areas.

You can bet I'll be watching every move because my own playing style is diametrically opposite. Spontaneity usually gets me in trouble and is my downfall more often than not, but I've never dreamed of laying out an entire regional transport system at one time. Major highways maybe, but...

Anyway, I'm really anxious to see how your plans play out. There's no doubt in my mind that there's much to learn here in Marathon...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on December 30, 2008, 01:04:37 AM
Hey Dustin I think you have hit an all time record here or something but you have a hot MD other then Casper Portforilo's!!! 2 months in the MD world and the Next post you will be Classic when you are done with OSITM WOW!!! Anyways what a masterful and well planned out area here and also great last few updates you have had!!!

I cant wait to see more!!!

pat
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 30, 2008, 06:31:28 AM
Welcome to page 26!

Great work there on that part of your region! Nice road layout there!
That's another great update there!
And looking forward to the update/teaser of the 31st December...


BTW, CONGRATS on 500 replies in just 55 days!!! &apls &apls &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 30, 2008, 07:12:04 AM
Hey Dustin,

 Congratulations!! on breaking the 500 reply mark!!  &apls
(http://thearroyoseco.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/fireworks.jpg)
 What an incredilbe achievement. 
 You start your MD on November 5th and have a super month, attaining 213 replies and an awesome amount of views.  December 1st, it's announced that your very well deserved MD is in OSITM.  Here you knock out all the stops and provide us with a picture every single day, stupendous updates and Jeopardy.  Now it's nearing the end of the month and you hit the 500 reply mark.(as I predicted)It was my pleasure coaxing you into starting your MD.....it was my pleasure moving your MD to OSITM and it will definately be my pleasure to move your MD to the Classics on January 1st.

 &apls

BTW, another great update my friend and I also have similiar problems.  ::)  ;)

Robin  ()stsfd()
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on December 30, 2008, 08:07:03 AM
I guess I'm not the only one who builds the transit grid before developing the city.  This is a well-constructed tutorial, Dustin, although it is what I have come to expect from Marathon.  :)  I must say that I agree 100% on the power idea, since a more realistic power grid is also one of my major goals.  A large city tile is about 2.5 sq. mi. (4 km2), and I've never seen any RL area with power plants spaced 2.5 sq. mi. apart, so this is a good strategy, Dustin. 

I must congratulate you on getting 500 replies.  Honestly, I had no doubt that CoM would be a success.  Congratulations, Dustin!  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 30, 2008, 05:28:21 PM
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deathtopumpkins: Thanks, my friend! I don't know how many others put that much thought and planning into the arteries, but I speaking for myself, I couldn't help it!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! I'm glad you enjoyed the update! To answer your questions, there will definitely be on- and off-ramps, I just didn't get that far on each tile. I'll handle the ramps, highway walls, etc., when I start building each tile. Also, the layout of each and every avenue isn't static, if something comes up to rework things, we'll definitely move it around. Nothing like this can be set in stone, otherwise I'll never get anywhere, right? I'm with you on the spontaneity, too—I try to be spontaneous and it ends up being planned spontaneity!

Pat: Thank you so much, my friend!

bat: Thanks, bat! And thanks for breaking 500! I can't believe we've made it that far!

Robin (rooker1): Hey, Robin! Wow, fireworks! I'm quite overwhelmed at how far we've come so fast here, and I have you to thank, my friend! Without you, Marathon would exist only in my little head!

metarvo: I'm not alone! Power is one of those oft overlooked aspects of the game that is also very important...without it, we'd be in the dark! But you're definitely right, power plants that close together is unrealistic and downright dangerous! And thanks for the congratulations, my friend!



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DECEMBER 30

More STR, but this time with the wonderful bridge that comes with it! And of course...seasonal trees...this time, winter!

And, 7:31:28 AM EST, we had our 500th comment here in Marathon!

I'm overwhelmed, friends. The reception and support here has been absolutely unbelievable. I thank you all from the bottom of my heart, and I hope to see you all back again!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 31, 2008, 03:36:47 AM
Congratulations on 500+ replies, 10,500+ views and what must be a record-setting sprint into the Classics!

But most of all,
congratulations on a stellar month in OSITM. You've set the pace - the rest of can only follow! And try to run fast enough! Great daily, too - Marathon just gets better and better by the day! :thumbsup:

Happy New Year to all...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on December 31, 2008, 04:26:22 AM
It doesn't seem like it has been that long since I was last here, but it seems you are in the classics already. Well done Dustin. I knew big things were coming when I saw your first update, and these 31 days in OSITM have really done it. Nice use of the STR, but that bridge... eh, I don't know... there must be something to better fit that area(then again, it's not like the BATter left you with much of a selection, did he, heh heh). I have something in the works that might fit the bill better (plate girder), just have to iron out some texture issues, and maybe add some ripple effects at the bottom of that trestle if I can. Happy New Year Dustin.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on December 31, 2008, 04:32:23 AM
Hello Dustin,

First up - congrats on reaching 500 posts in RECORD time - wow, that really is something.  I look forward to seeing you in the Classics (it'll make it easier to visit more regularly as I am terribly lazy and often don't get further than there!!)   I've done a (very) rough calculation and reckon that at current "post rates" CoM will overtake West End on 15th February!

The daily pics have all been very good - thanks for sharing them and apols for not commenting on each and every one.

Now, this last update....... verrrrrrrrry interesting.  I've read Joan's comments and like her appraisal of how you've approached Marathon island.  I'm trying to decide whether I'm absolutely impressed or totally horrified by your approach!!  Your attention to detail and logic is really something else - I have laid out the main highways and railways in West End (over 18 months ago) but even they seem to change when I actually get to developing a quad.  When I built the Amterdam themed city in West End I laid out the canal system because I was after somethign specific - but believe me, whilst it delivered the "look" I wanted, actually building that quad was the most challenging SC4 thing I've done.  Those pesky sims just didn't seem to appreciate what I was trying to achieve!!

It will be interesting to see the individual tiles develop and I just wonder what level of "give" there is going to have to be between your self confessed "obsessive-compulsiveness" and Joan's hinted at need to be flexible and destroy parts of the grid to accomodate cetain parts of the city.

For me personally (and I guess this is because I live in England), I try to keep away from too much griddiness and straight lines.

I'm assuming from the grid layout that Marathon is going to be a densely populated place with lots of high risers.

One specific point on the "roundabout" junction.   Hmmmmm, there are so many intersections so close together there I can't help but think that you're asking for trouble.  Both from the point of view of traffic chaos and also from missing the opportunity for creating a central focal point for the quad.  Maybe (and this is only a suggestion) if you could get all of the avenues to converge on the one roundabout you'd have an almost "Arch de Triomphe" type junction that would be a real foacl point.  Or, again, with so mnay arteries converging you could create a "mini-ring road" using one way roads that in effect is an extra large roundabout.  This would then leave you with a nice sized central "island" that could be a focal point - maybe  asmall park with statues and a monument?  I'm kinda thinking of Parliament Square in London (and I'm sure there are hundreds of other similar places nearer to home).

Well, thanks for the update Dustin- hopefully you can tell from my comments that I found it very interesting and thought provoking.

All the best for 2009,

Paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 31, 2008, 06:58:21 AM
Nice work on that newest picture there! Looking forward to more (perhaps in this year...)...


I wish you a Happy New Year! ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 31, 2008, 01:58:31 PM
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Joan (Jmouse): Thank you so much, my friend! Your presence here in Marathon has made this month so much greater, and I appreciate it very much! See you in 2009!

Matt (threestooges): Hey, Matt! I feel you on the bridge (I used it again in today's picture...Sorry!)—I can't wait to see what you have in the works, your bridges are extraordinary! And a Happy New Year to you, too, my friend!

Paul (paroch): Hi, Paul! First off, thank you so much for the congratulations and support, it really means a lot to me, my friend. Now, onto you points about the update, which are very poignant, and I have to say that you are very, very correct! As the island stands now, it seems to work, but when the time for development begins, I have a feeling that things will be extremely different! The game simply does not care how much planning you do, and you have to be flexible! My obsessive-compulsiveness only goes so far—I'd rather have it look nice than have it fit into some preordained system. You're also very correct about the intersections leading to trouble, too, and I will most certainly be employing some of the strategies that you suggested for them. I tried to set things up as detailed as possible this early because, for one, it could save some trouble, and two, when things start to change in development, we will have something to look back on to illustrate that change. I want to thank you so much for your suggestions and advice, my friend. I have no doubt that I will be revisiting your post when I start building, and that I will be indebted to you! Have a very Happy New Year!

bat: Thank you, bat!



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DECEMBER 31

This picture is more pretense for the greeting and sentiment at the bottom—I wanted to do something big for New Year's Eve, but that's the best I could come up with!

Well, that is our final "31 Days of OSITM" picture, on our final day here in OSITM. It's still New Year's Eve here in the Eastern United States for about nine more hours, and I'm unsure if I'll be able to get in here before the stroke of midnight tonight, so if not...

Have a Happy New Year!
See you in 2009!


Also, I'd like to thank each and every one of you who has stopped over here in the 56 days that Marathon has been opened. As I've said, the reception and support here has been unbelievable and I thank you all, my friends, so very, very much!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on December 31, 2008, 02:11:39 PM
That's a great finish for your second month and the year 2008 of your MD! :thumbsup:
Congrats for so many replies and views in 56 days!! &apls

Have a Happy New Year, too! And See you in 2009, too! :D ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on December 31, 2008, 03:46:30 PM
That's a great mosaic my friend !  &apls
I like the "ghetto" in the top.  :thumbsup:

Happy New year !
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on December 31, 2008, 04:33:43 PM
Hello Dustin,

 Another super picture.
I wonder what we will all do from now on....not getting our fix....dose....ahhh you get the idea.  What are we going to do?
I don't know about everyone else but I was getting use to seeing an update in here everyday.

 Where did you get those apartment buildings?  They look like SFBT style.

I hope your Christmas holidays were the best they could be and I hope your New Years eve will begin the new year with a bang.
Don't drink too much we need you tomorrow.  

See you in the New Year my Friend,
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on December 31, 2008, 04:59:03 PM
That's quite a grand-exit mosaic, Dustin! Tenants would need a GPS to find the right building, especially those who come home a bit late from a rompin' an' stompin' New Year's Eve Party! $%Grinno$%

Anyway, here's to 2009 and all the things it will bring - the good, the bad and the surprises...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on December 31, 2008, 06:36:35 PM
Great mosaic, Dustin!  You managed to finish the month just as strong as you began.  It's been great having a new picture every day (although I imagine you may be ready for a little break by now!) and the larger updates in between were always very insightful.  It's always interesting to watch how different people plan and play the game and the way you've walked us through each step has been fascinating.  I'll be watching this one for quite some time, I'm sure.

Have a wonderful New Year, my friend!
JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 31, 2008, 11:58:31 PM
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bat: Thanks, bat! Happy New Year!

Robin (rooker1): Thank you so much, Robin! The apartments are NDEX, I believe, though I don't remember off the top of my head. I'll look into it for you, though, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): Thanks, Joan! I'm with you on 2009, too—we'll see where it takes us!

Jon (JBSimio): Hi, Jon! It's been such a great month, I don't even know where to begin! I'm so glad that you've enjoyed things here, and I hope to see you here in 2009, too! Take care, my friend!



It's almost 1:00 AM here in the Keystone State, so...

Happy 2009!

My time in OSITM is officially up today, so I'll leave you all with this, a final OSITM treat to wrap things up...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Thumbnail.jpg) (http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/OSITM/Calendar.jpg)

Time for a bit of a break, I think...not too long, though—don't worry!

See you soon!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on January 01, 2009, 12:17:24 AM
Wow! What a wonderful idea - nobody's going to top a 31-day odyssey like that!

It's a quarter hour into 2009 now,
so Happy New Year to all!
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on January 01, 2009, 12:45:14 AM
Well done on the month in OSITM Dustin. You certainly made it interesting. As for the bridge, I actually kind of liked the avenue bridge, what I was talking about was the STR one. However, perhaps an avenue bridge maight be a nice addition. Any suggestions? Nice mosaic to close out the month with. I don't think I've seen those towers before, nor those blocks of warehouses at the bottom. The retrospective pic was a neat one to looks at too. Enjoy the break, and I'll be looking forward to seeing how that grid holds up to development. Great work.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dedgren on January 01, 2009, 01:07:30 AM
Little did I know that my best friend here at SC4D would prove to have such a sure hand at doing an MD.  Marathon has become a must read (must see, to be more accurate), and you have had a great OSITM run, Dustin.  I can't wait to see what you do here in 2009.

Happy New Year!


David
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: CasperVg on January 01, 2009, 03:08:34 AM
I must congratulate you with the impressive works you have showcased here over the past 56 days. It certainly is a well-deserved feat that Commonwealth of Marathon has been moved to the "Classics". Not only does it have the needed post and view counts; it is also a pleasant to read, and wonderful to look at, Mayors' Diary, that showcases a wide variety of playing styles, cities and on top of that it is authored by one of the most friendly members of this community.

I have enjoyed looking at each of the Daily OSITM Treats. That's actually an understatement, since I started to anxiously await the newest teaser from the moment I had spotted the last one. It has become a routine job to check in here after I get up in the morning, to view another most awesome picture, that you made.

As for the the latest teaser: What is there to say? I am overwhelmed with the beauty of how the residential blocks, the river, the seasonal trees, the bridge and the industrial estate nicely fit together, and seem to create an almost utopian mirror of how life really is. The seasonal trees really do add to the overall picture, by supplying it with the necessary colourfulness and the river seems to be a smooth border line between the industrial and residential development, and from an artistic point of view, it seems to nicely divide the picture into three small pictures.

I hope you, and all others here, will have a splendid 2009!

P.S.: Those residential towers were made by ill tonkso, and can be found here (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=20068), here (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=20069) (or just search "Portsmouth" on the STEX).
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on January 01, 2009, 06:02:19 AM
You have made an excellent job there in your first OSITM! And that's a nice collection of 31 pictues!

Looking forward to the pictures in 2009! ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on January 01, 2009, 06:42:55 AM
Happy New Year Dustin - you certainly rounded things out in style.

Those apartment blocks have certainly drawn plenty of comments - I too thought they looked like a variation on the SFBT Plattenbau - so thanks to Casper for the link.

Delivering a pic a day - plus a quiz, plus some sizable updates has been quite a task - so enjoy your (short) break!

And I'm pleased you appreciated my last comment - I will enjoy watching it all develop.

All the best

Paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Eliteforce on January 01, 2009, 11:26:22 AM
Happy 2009 everyone!

The region looks excellent, I wish I had the patience to work on something like this.  I might try a detailed region like yours soon, but no where as awesome.  Keep up the good work and make all your fellow mayors proud!
 &apls &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [01/03/09]: UPDATE XIV-B: Two Months Down...
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 03, 2009, 12:48:37 PM
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Joan (Jmouse): Happy New Year, Joan! Thanks so much for your wonderful support, my friend!

Matt (threestooges): Hi, Matt! Personally, I think that the STR bridge is just splendid, my friend! As for a new avenue one, well that would certainly be welcome, too! I hope your 2009 has started off well!

David (dedgren): Wow, thanks so much, David! I don't really know what to say, my friend. I hope you're having a Happy New Year, as well!

Casper (caspervg): Thank you so much, Casper! It makes me so happy that you were looking forward to each picture, as I was looking forward to bringing them to you and everyone! This has become such a fulfilling endeavor, I wish I would have started it earlier! Your comments and your support are very much appreciated, my friend! Hope your 2009 is going well!

bat: Thanks, bat! Happy New Year to you, my good friend!

Paul (paroch): Hello there, Paul! Happy New Year to you, too! I'm glad that you liked the apartment buildings, I found them on a whim, actually, paging through the STEX one late night. As soon as I saw them, I knew I had to use them! Thanks for stopping in here so regularly with your very insightful comments and advice. I hope to hear from you at every step of the way, my friend! Take care!

Eliteforce: Welcome to Marathon! Thank you so much! Though, if you are enjoying things here, you should check out the MDs in the SC4Devotion MD Hall of Fame (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?board=238.0)—they'll knock your socks right off! Hope to see you around again!




UPDATE XIV-B
Two Months Down...A Look Back!
3 January 2009

Well, as the title suggests, we're two months down, and with a new year comes our third month! But, November and December 2008 were, by no means, ordinary here in Marathon—indeed, quite the opposite.

Thanks to all of you, my very good friends, an unprecedented pace was set that is unparalleled by any other MD in the history of SC4D. Since Marathon opened on November 5, 2008, there has been an outpouring of support from so many wonderful people here, an outpouring that would dwarf a tsunami!

So, in recognition not of the MD "Commonwealth of Marathon" itself, but in recognition of all of you who have been so supportive, I have compiled a few graphs to just show, statistically, some of the things that have transpired here since we began. Hey, I wouldn't be deserving of my CML if I didn't right?

Here we go!

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First, a simple graph that charts the change in growth and the average growth (according to the SC4Devotion MD Statistics (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=1300.0)) of Marathon in November and December.

Next...

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A big one! This is the amount of posts made in Marathon on each day. Thanks to all of you, there were two days—November 21 and November 25—with no replies.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014B/14003t.jpg) (http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014B/14003.jpg)

Another large one, this time a catalog of every single post made in Marathon! NOTE: I "borrowed" this idea from a similar Excel spreadsheet used by David (dedgren) and Joan (Jmouse) to keep track of the posts in 3RR...Thanks, guys!

Using this spreadsheet, I was able to calculate this...

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...the amount of individual comments made by each person in Marathon. We've had 55 different people post here, with 42 of them being repeaters! And look at my good friend Joan (Jmouse) at the top of the list, bested only by me! But, since it's my MD, I should probably be up there at the top, don't you think?

Finally, a chart that I simply cannot believe when I read...

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Thanks to all of you, Marathon has become the fastest MD to reach 500 comments, doing so in just 55 days! We got there even faster than the ever-exponentially growing 3RR!

BIG, IMPORTANT NOTE: I did not create this last chart (or any of them, for that matter) as a way to say that Marathon is, in any way, size, shape or form, better than any other MD. In fact, I am so truly humbled by the fact that this has happened, it's quite shocking. To be included amongst such a phenomenal list of MDs—top to bottom—is just unbelievable.

So that's November and December in a statistical nutshell!

As I've said so much here, I have to thank every single one of you out there for all your support, advice, suggestions, just for everything. Without you, Marathon would not exist, and this community would not exist.

If 2009 is even one iota as wonderful as 2008 was, I will be ecstatic! Thank you so very much, friends!

In closing...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2014B/14006.jpg)

...a peek at where our journey takes us next!

Until then!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on January 03, 2009, 01:09:09 PM
That's a fantastic statistic update there! Excellent work on it! And congrats on so successful two month!!!

And looking forward to more in this year 2009! ;) :)
BTW, this is my 40th reply here...


Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on January 03, 2009, 01:58:55 PM
Amazing work Dustin. You are certainly living up to your CML. Really neat to look back at the growth. I may have to borrow a similar format for Greenacre's hall of records (it's more of a floor in a building than an actual hall but...). I've used excel before, but is there a way to quickly tally them number of times a person has posted using that format? Also, are there any styles of avenue bridge you think would be particularly useful? I'm keeping an eye out for bits of inspiration. Congratulations, and I hope the coming months are just as successful for you and Marathon.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on January 03, 2009, 03:07:06 PM
well it just wouldn't be your MD without the statistics, now would it Dustin? :P Congratulations on that achrvememt, and who knows, maybe you'll reach 1000 replies even faster! ;)

Oh, and I'm guessing that you're making a map from that transit data view!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on January 03, 2009, 03:17:03 PM
This is simply awesome Dustin, excellent work on these stats !  &apls &apls

the last update is really great my friend  :thumbsup:

Can't wait to see more

Arthur.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Eliteforce on January 03, 2009, 03:21:03 PM
Wow, the fastest growing MD ever?  Very nice  &apls

@ the hint-  You gonna put in roads next??
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: freedo50 on January 03, 2009, 03:30:30 PM
Hmmm, so I haven't said anything in here yet? Well that's dumb of me beacuse this is simply one of the most captivating MDs I've read. This is the best thing for me, even better than playing the game - because it's like playing the game (for me), but without the annoyances, and with better results than my own!

Keep up the good work!
Fred
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on January 03, 2009, 04:55:24 PM
Dustin - I'm really not sure how you do it!!!  I mean you give us plenty of updates and many of them are just so darn original.  OK, so we know you're the stat-meister-general here at SC4D - but still, you exceed yourself and as a bit of a stat fan myself I found it thouroughly interesting.  Of course it's nice being one of your 10+ posters and it's also interesting to see West End on that list of "fast hitting 500" MDs.  Of course, CoM has re-defined "fast hitting".  So a big congrats on the stats, the update and CoM breaking new boundaries.

Anyway, enough waffle - great update and I know exactly which quad you've teased us with there - hahahaha, nice one.  Now you know I can't wait to see what happens with the mega intersection!!

Here's to the next 500 posts my friend!

All the best

Paul


Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on January 03, 2009, 05:29:56 PM
I should have anticipated this one from The Stat Man himself! Some of those charts look like Wall Street lightening bolts, but after all, they're a reflection of amazing trends just the same.

I'm proud to be the top poster,
and I think you know me well enough to know why I'm in that spot (Yes, I know I talk too much, too!). One thing you failed to mention, however, is the fact that these stunning accomplishments were achieved - earned - because of the author's clever ideas and innovative use of available resources.

You're just doing a whole lot of things right, Dustin...
Joan

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: woodb3kmaster on January 03, 2009, 06:27:56 PM
What a fascinating update, Dustin! Not only have you broken all those records for growth, you really raised the bar for what MDs do when they're OSITM. If I ever achieve that honor myself, I hope I'll be able to live up to the standards that CoM has established. Congratulations on doing a fantastic job so far!

Looking forward to what's coming up,
Zack
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on January 03, 2009, 07:21:07 PM
First of all, let me congratulate you for taking your MD into the classics in such little time, also great works on those stats... Looking forward to more!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on January 04, 2009, 05:51:48 PM
OK Dustin I am so ashamed here that I havent kept up like I had wanted to but once again I am all caught up in Marathon again... Those charts are something wow!!!! I think this now puts me at 21 lol naw anyways the 500 just blows my mind its amazing to see the comparasions!!!  Great stuff and I never know what to expect!!!!!!

pat
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on January 04, 2009, 06:24:24 PM
 &apls &apls Excellent update once again Dustin Great stats too. A lot of work over there. But you know how to do stats right ?  ;D Excellent grow in classic section too. At this rythm tou gonna be in the hall of fame in another month  :D maybe we gonna have to do a special section for the fastest growing looking city. Have fun and looking forward
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 04, 2009, 09:28:22 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

bat: Thanks so much, my friend! I couldn't have made this far without you!

Matt (threestooges): Hi, Matt! Thanks so much! To answer your question, I'm unaware of a way to tabulate how many times someone has posted using the spreadsheet format I've shown. I sat down with a piece of paper and counted them all off by hand to get the numbers! If there is a way—and I'd wager that there has to be—perhaps some here could tell us how? Either way, though, good luck with Greenacre (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6621.0), my friend. I'm already a big fan!

deathtopumpkins: Hi! No, I guess I wouldn't be me if there we no statistics! As for your guess on what's coming next, well, we'll just have to wait and see!

Arthur (art128): Thanks, Arthur! It's always great to see you here!

Eliteforce: Thanks! Roads are definitely coming at some point. How they'll go in, though—well, your guess is as good as mine!

Fred (freedo50): Hello and welcome, Fred, my good friend! It's so great to have you here in Marathon! And you're right, following an MD is better than playing the game. That's why it took so long for me to finally start one! Hope to see you around again, Fred!

Paul (paroch): Hey, Paul! I'll tell you exactly how I do it...with a lot of help from great friends like you, that's how! I'm glad you found the statistics interesting, as they can be sort of a "niche market" sometimes. You know me, though, I'm a sucker for a good table or graph! Thanks so much for all your support, my friend. I'll be very much looking forward to your comments and advice in the future!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! I couldn't have asked for a better top poster here in Marathon! Each and every one of your comments has been supportive, insightful, and helpful, and I treasure them all! Thank you so very much, Joan!

Zack (woodbkmaster): Hey, it's Marathon's answer to Ken Jennings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Jennings)! I'm glad you enjoyed the update, my friend. As I've said, Marathon wouldn't be where it is today without friends like you!

alan_vzla: Thank you very much, my friend!

Pat: No worries, my friend! There's so much happening here at SC4D at any given time, it's impossible to keep up with everything! Thanks for coming by and checking things out, though. Hope to see you back soon!

kimcar: Thank you so much for your continued support, my friend! It's very much appreciated! I don't know if I can keep up the pace, though—December wore me out pretty good! Thanks for coming by!



Did a bit of rummaging through my folders today and found...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/018.jpg)

...a little holdover from my STR testing. Nothing extravagant or even that special, just a simple wooded shot that I've become ever so fond of making!

After 31 days of daily pictures, I find myself with this incessant urge to make sure that I'm caught up on something! That's OK, though—for me, that's part of the fun!

Still working through some things for our next update!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on January 05, 2009, 01:11:47 AM
Another good-looking daily, Dustin. If you’re not careful, you’re going to inspire me to fire up the game after nearly a year and cause some serious damage!

Hope you won’t mind if I answer Matt’s question about XL – maybe it will save both of you some time.

XL will find any text you enter, display a link to the location of each entry and calculate the number of times the text appears.
Ctrl+f brings up the Find and Replace function box.
Enter text in the “Find what:” window.*
*If you have more than one page in your workbook (first-timers and all commenters, for example), here’s what you can do: In the lower right corner of the Find and Replace box, click on “Options <<.” Choose “Workbook” in the box next to the “Within:” line, and then proceed. If not, skip this step.
Click the “Find All” button.

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6328/findreplace1ql9.jpg)

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5306/findreplace2vm5.jpg)

Hope this helps…
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on January 05, 2009, 01:32:46 AM
Brilliant Joan. Thanks for that. Never knew 'find and replace' counted the instances. That should be a real time-saver. Very nice pic there Dustin. The STR will be a fun little thing to play with when it's finally released, until then, the beta test files work too. Thanks for the plug by the way. Take it easy, and I'll look forward to your next update.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on January 05, 2009, 04:59:12 AM
Nice picture there! And looking forward to more updates... ;) :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on January 05, 2009, 05:22:13 AM
Dustin that is so very true that so much goes on here at Devo it is very hard to keep up!! But hey I am back lol!!! Love that teaser shot err or old shot but either way you wish to put Dustin its a darn great shot there!!! Joan you have a great find there as well and I think that might help me out a termenduose deal!!!! thank you so much!!!

Waiting on more of Marathon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon,_Wisconsin) Wisconsin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_City,_Wisconsin)  ;D,

Pat
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on January 05, 2009, 05:38:53 AM
Hello Dustin,

 Great to hear that you still have the "incessant urge".
 I hope your holidays went well and All the best to you, your parents and girlfriend in the year to come.
 Awesome set of stats on your MD.  From the first day that I saw your first picture (and just knowing you a little) I knew this MD was going to be special.  Congrats on being the fastest MD to reach 500 replies.  Here...here to many more records I know you could breack if you set your mind to it.  &apls

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [01/06/09]: UPDATE XV: On the Tedium...
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 06, 2009, 05:38:26 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Joan (Jmouse): Wow, thanks so much, Joan! I've already given you a well-deserved +1 karma for your help, but I can't thank you enough, my friend! This will make things so much easier than sitting down with a pen and paper making checkmarks!

Matt (threestooges): Thanks for your great comments, Matt! Very much appreciated! And Joan's solution is certainly going to work out quite well, isn't it? Thanks for coming by!

bat: Thank you, my friend!

Pat: Thanks so much, Pat! Hope to see you around again soon!

Robin (rooker1): Oh, the urge is still there, my friend! The hard part is trying to get the ideas in my head to come out as well as they seem in there! Thanks for the New Year's wishes, too, and I wish you and your family a Happy New Year, as well! Take care, my very good friend!




UPDATE XV
On the Tedium, Trepidation, and Eventual Fulfillment of Cartography
Part I: From the Game to the Drawing Board...

6 January 2009

A few comments back, our friend deathtopumpkins said:

Quote
Oh, and I'm guessing that you're making a map from that transit data view!

Well, you guessed correctly, my friend! Today, we'll look at making a map of the current transit situation on Marathon Island.

A QUICK NOTE: The methods that I have used in this series of updates are methods that I have picked up over hours of trial and error using Photoshop. They very well may be incorrect, or there may be better or easier ways to achieve things of which I am unaware. If our Photoshop masters are out there looking, please do not hesitate to jump in with a tip, correction, or anything similar! This is as much as learning experience for me as it is for everyone else!

OK, we'll proceed!

The first step ensures that we're putting the highways, avenues, and roads in the correct spots! To do so—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15001.jpg)

We open up the traffic window in the game, then hitting [Ctrl]+[Shift]+S to bring up the camera, we adjust the size to get a picture of the tile in traffic view.

We follow this same method with each of the 18 tiles used for Marathon Island. Correction, 17 tiles, since one of them is completely covered with water!

After that is done, we open up Photoshop...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15002.jpg)

...and...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15003.jpg)

...crop out everything but the traffic view of tile itself.

That leaves us with...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15004.jpg)

...this!

Since I'm in idiot, I didn't realize that, when I snapped the photo in the game, I didn't have it facing the correct direction! Easy enough fix, though—just go to the Image menu, then select Rotate Canvas, followed by 180°, taking us...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15005.jpg)

...here.

Now, we Save for Web...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15006.jpg)

...either by finding the option in the File menu, or hitting [Alt]+[Ctrl]+[Shift]+S.

Again, we follow the same steps with each tile's traffic view snapshot, saving them each as .JPG files for later.

Now..

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15007.jpg)

...we open a new project by hitting [Ctrl]+N, and choose dimensions accordingly. Each tile's cropped traffic view snapshot is 256 x 256 pixels. Therefore, since the is island is 3 tiles wide by 6 tiles long, the width needs to be a minimum of 256 px x 3, or 768 px, and the height needs to be a minimum of 256 px x 6, or 1536 px. But, just to be on the safe side, we'll go with 1000 x 1700. We can always crop it later!

Next we start opening up the 256 x 256 pix tiles.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15008.jpg)

We then hit [Ctrl]+A to Select All, followed by [Ctrl]+X to Cut.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15009.jpg)

Paste the tile—by hitting [Ctrl]+V—on the blank 1000 x 1700 canvas. Then move the tile to the upper left corner, making sure to hit that the Snap button is checked under the View Menu. This will ensure that tile is directly in the corner by "snapping" the tile to the canvas border. You can also toggle the Snap feature by hitting [Shift]+[Ctrl]+;, if you'd like. Once the tile is secured in the corner, I'd recommend removing the Snap feature, as it will make thigns a bit easier for future steps.

Once we've got the corner tile in place, we start opening the other tiles and begin lining them up as closely as possible to each other. Like...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15010.jpg)

...this, followed by...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15011.jpg)

...this, and finally...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15012.jpg)

...this!

So there's our complete map of traffic view tiles from the game! A quick note that the missing tile is the one that contains all water and, therefore, is not necessary for our current application.

For as much work as all of that was, it's done solely for the purpose of being a template, unfortunately.

Our next step is to...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15013.jpg)

...first, create a new layer, either by hitting [Shift]+[Ctrl]+N, or clicking the button in  Circle 1.

Next, we move to Circle 2 and select the Pencil Tool, alos found by hitting B. Circle 3 gives us our Brush Size, which selected as 4 px for this particular usage.

Using the Pencil Tool and zooming in to about 800% or so, we trace the outside of the entire island, as illustrated by the black line in the picture above.

IMPORTANT: Make sure that you are placing the black line on the correct layer! To do this, look at the Layer Window—shown on the right hand side in the above picture with "Layer 18" and "Layer 19." The layer that you are currently using is labeled in bold and is highlighted in grey. In the above picture, Layer 19 is the current layer being used.

Carefully tracing the outside edge of the island will give us...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15014.jpg)

...this result!

By toggling off the little "eye" button next to "Layer 18," we can see...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15015.jpg)

...our outline by itself.

The next step—create another new layer (Circle 1, or [Shift]+[Ctrl]+N). Now, select the Magic Wand Tool, signified by Circle 2, or by hitting W, and click inside the island, where the "land" portion would be. Then select the Paint Bucket Tool by hitting G, and paint the inside of the island.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15016.jpg)

Our result! But this is only the beginning! We'll stop here for now, and pick up where we are leaving off with Part II!

See you then!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metasmurf on January 06, 2009, 05:41:42 PM
Great tutorial. Can't wait for part 2  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on January 06, 2009, 05:45:18 PM
Funny, I thought it looked pretty good as a traffic data map, but I like where it is going. Some good cartography tips are always handy, both here and in 3RR. Looking forward to seeing what you're up to. Knowing you it'll be a good tutorial to follow.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on January 06, 2009, 06:32:31 PM
OKay.....I have made it this far, now what do I do?

Robin  ()stsfd()
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on January 06, 2009, 06:36:31 PM
Hey, I was right!  ;D

Ooh... this will be really helpful. I see where I went wrong making my atlas of my CJ.  :D Too bad I don't have photoshop though...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on January 06, 2009, 07:13:13 PM
Always glad to help, Dustin - I've lost count of how many times folks have helped me!

I've never created a transit map, but you have certainly presented one good way of doing it. As I was looking at your trial-and-error efforts, it occurred to me how often playing SC4RH/DX opens up creative avenues we never knew existed.

Dedicated players
find themselves inspired to tackle complex coding problems, to improve skills in software like Photoshop, to learn lot editing, to try their hand at BATting and to always push themselves beyond their perceived limits. SC4 is a classic game that inspires unbelievable levels of creative thinking - even more so in a supportive community.

Thanks for sharing your good ideas...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on January 07, 2009, 03:05:01 AM
Hey Dustin I think you have found a great key here to making a great road map!!!! I cant wait for part II !!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on January 07, 2009, 08:00:20 AM
Nice work on that tutorial there! And looking forward to part II!
BTW, which version of Photoshop do you use?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 08, 2009, 12:38:36 PM
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metasmurf: Thanks so much!

Matt (threestooges): Thanks, Matt! I didn't think that it looked to bad as a traffic view map, either, actually. Perhaps I'll come up with a way to use that in the future! Thanks for stopping by!

Robin (rooker1): Hi, Robin! You've made it this far, eh? Well, be on the lookout for Part II—we'll get you all the way through this yet!

deathtopumpkins: Great catch on the map guess, my friend! And good luck to you in your own mapmaking. I'm glad you've found some of this helpful!

Joan (Jmouse): Hello, there, Joan! You are very correct on how SC4 has opened up different avenues of creativity and knowledge. I know that I probably never would have gotten as far with Photoshop in the limited capacity that I've done so far, had it not been for SC4. And there's also the knowledge that I've gained from all of our friends here in a myriad of different topics and subjects. The old saying goes, "you learn something new everyday," and that certainly holds true here at SC4D! Take care, my friend!

Pat: Thanks, my friend! Part II is on the horizon!

bat: Thank you, bat! As I am not on my home computer for confirmation, I am not 100% sure, but I believe that I am using Photoshop 7.0. I'll check when I get home and get back to you for certain, though!



I am in currently in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, until tomorrow—my girlfriend is at a conference and I came along on the ride for the free hotel room! And to sweeten the pot even more, the wireless Internet access at the hotel is complimentary!

But we're not without a teaser here in the capital of the Keystone State...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/019.jpg)

Just another medium-level urban skyline picture that I enjoy making so very much!

Part II of our cartography endeavor is on the way, too—Saturday at the latest.

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on January 08, 2009, 12:46:09 PM
That's a good photo mate!, the only thing I don't like too much are the Maxis trees... I prefer c.p's

And for the photoshop tutorial, very good! It will surely help me in my MD!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on January 08, 2009, 02:12:27 PM
Have fun in Harrisonburg! That is a great pic... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Nexis4Jersey on January 08, 2009, 02:30:24 PM
have fun in Harrisburg!  :) Hehe i bet your not enjoying the cold though  >:(
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on January 08, 2009, 03:54:54 PM
Dustin have fun at the confrence and rack up that free hotel room!!! lol heheehe Anyways love that teaser there Keystone State!!!! Will be looking forward to part II here soon...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on January 08, 2009, 05:55:32 PM
I like today's photo, Dustin. Never been a fan of high-rise skylines - they just don't look right to me in game usually - but the mid-rises look great.

Have a pleasant weekend and don't worry about us (sniff, sniff). We'll try to get along without you for a day or so. :D

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on January 08, 2009, 07:12:55 PM
Marathon still looks very nice, Dustin.  That building that is towards the lower-left of your pic is my favorite part of it, since it is placed so well.  I hope you are having a good time on your trip.  Hmmm... free wireless Internet at the hotel?  Sweet!  ;D
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on January 09, 2009, 06:16:50 AM
Hello Dustin,
 Thank for the well wishes for the new year.
 It's always nice to take a little trip, get away from all the regular stuff in life.  But I'm not sure that I would have brought the lap top.  I'd be too busy thinking about the girlfriend's conference and than the bed......don't think so dirty everyone, I have kids now.  I was thinking about sleep. ::) ;) :D
 I think your MD is doing so well, for one reason are all the great pictures.  Although you only gave us one this update, I find myself looking at it for quite some time.  Everything seems to fit very well together.  All buildings are of the same size,style and realistic, like it could exist in real life easily.  I like it alot. &apls
See you around my friend,
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on January 09, 2009, 07:31:26 AM
That's a really nice "medium-level urban skyline picture" there!
Great work on it! And looking forward to the second part of your tutorial... ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [01/10/09]: UPDATE XVI: On the Tedium...
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 10, 2009, 12:28:50 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

alan_vzla: Thanks, my friend! I'm with you on the trees, too—I'm a huge fan of the ones by c.p., as well. I think the Maxis ones in the picture are a part of the lot, though, so without going into the LE (which I may have to put on the list of things to be done...), I couldn't take care of them properly. Thanks for coming by!

deathtopumpkins: Thank you! I did have a good time!

Nexis: Thanks! The cold wasn't too bad, though. Growing up in the Northeast, I've come to enjoy the wintertime.

Pat: Hey, my friend! We had a good time, especially when we found out that room service would be taken care of, too! I'm glad you enjoyed the picture, too, my friend! Take care!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! I'm happy you liked the mid-rises, my friend! I know what you mean about the high-rise shots, too—I find myself having to redo them a few times when I make them because I can't get it to look right, whereas with the mid-rise shots, it comes together rather effortlessly...well, maybe not "effortlessly," but certainly less effort than the high-rise ones! Thanks for stopping in, Joan!

metarvo: Thanks very much, my friend! The free wireless Internet was definitely a bonus, I was expecting some kind of fee. Hope to see you here again!

Robin (rooker1): Hi, Robin! All went well in Harrisburg, and believe me, I made the most of the bed! While my girlfriend was at here meetings, I slept all afternoon! It was wonderful! I'm glad you liked the picture, too. I do have to start BAT-hunting soon, though, as I feel myself using the same buildings multiple times. I hope my computer can handle the load in my plugins folder! It's always great to see you here, my friend! Hope all is well!

bat: Thanks, my friend! And you don't have to wait for Part II any longer!




UPDATE XVI
On the Tedium, Trepidation, and Eventual Fulfillment of Cartography
Part II: From the Drawing Board to...You!

10 January 2009

When last we left our gallant and valiant hero in this sublime history—forgive me, I recently finished reading Don Quixote

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2015/15016.jpg)

We had gotten the basic outline of Marathon Island, as well as the base for it. But, as I said, that was only the beginning.

Our next step is to start filling in the various levels of transportation that we have on the island at this juncture, starting with the highways.

Opening a new layer (making use of [Shift]+[Ctrl]+N) and labeling it "Highways," we start...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2016/16001.jpg)

...tracing with our Pencil Tool (B). Since the avenues and the highways appear in the same color and the same thickness, you'll have to be aware of your transportation networks ahead of time, in order to ensure correct placement.

As the title of this series of updates suggests, there is a small level of tedium involved in creating this map, but some of it is alleviated by a great little tip of which I stumbled upon—click once with the Pencil Tool, drawing a single block over the highway. Then, scroll down, following the highway, as shown in the above picture. Now, hold [Shift] and click. If you maintained the correct trajectory, you should have straight line!

If you did not maintain the correct trajectory...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2016/16002.jpg)

...you'll still get a line, just not the one you want! Therein lies the "trepidation," as per the title.

Following this process, we place the highways.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2016/16003.jpg)

They are shown above. Take note of the gaps shown in the highway work, as well be addressing them shortly.

Avenues, are next...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2016/16004.jpg)

Again, same procedure—create a new layer, label it "Avenues," then start tracing with the Pencil Tool. Remember, Make sure you are tracing the correct transportation network according to your layer labels! You'll see why in a bit.

Now, we come upon our first obstacle, so to speak...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2016/16005.jpg)

...the roundabouts. Not to worry, we just employ the Custom Shape Tool, either by hitting U, or clicking on the custom shape man circled in Circle 1. Then proceed to Circle 2, and choose the circle with a thick outline (shown above).

Hold [Shift] to maintain a perfect circle, and then place it to the correct size (also shown above).

With that taken care of, the avenues are...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2016/16006.jpg)

...complete! Note that I've changed the color to brown, for no particular reason at all. I only point it out in case someone may be wondering if there was a reason for it.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2016/16007.jpg)

Here's the avenue network by its lonesome.

Next, we'll do the smaller roads that flank the highways, as well as split off from avenues.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2016/16008.jpg)

Same procedure, giving us...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2016/16009.jpg)

...this!

Now remember those gaps I pointed out in the highways earlier? You probably figured out that they are for...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2016/16010.jpg)

...our tunnels! A new layer for our Highway Tunnels, and...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2016/16011.jpg)

...one for our avenue tunnels, as well!

Now we get to the purpose for all these layers, as well as the strict policy of making sure you are on the correct layer that you want to be on. Any good map distinguishes the different transportation networks using a color scheme. Now, I've used a color scheme to place them already, but those were arbitrary colors that I chose...well, arbitrarily.

We're going to give it that "map look," or at least attempt to!

So...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2016/16012.jpg)

we'll start with the highways. To access the window shown above, either double-click on the layer you wish to adjust (in this case the "Highways" layer), or go to the Layer Menu and choose Layer Style, then Blending Options... to get there.

As shown above, Color Overlay is checked to give us a new color for the highway line itself. Then, Stroke is employed to get the outline—in this case, it is done by choosing the Inside option in the Position dropbox, as well as adjusting the thickness to 1 px. These settings can be adjusted to fit your needs.

We do the same thing with our Avenues and Roads...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2016/16013.jpg)

...as well as the Highway and Avenue Tunnels. To line up the colors for the tunnels, just Right Click on the corresponding tunnel—"Highways" for highway tunnels, "Avenues" for avenue tunnels—and click Copy Layer Style. Then go to the tunnel layer, Right Click, and choose Paste Layer Style. The Color Overlay and Stroke will now match! I've also adjusted the Opacity of the tunnel layers to give it that semi-transparent "map tunnel look."

With all that said and done, we get...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2016/16014.jpg)

...our finished product! A full map of Marathon Island with the highways and arteries in their correct placement and relative scale, according to their placement in the game.

With that, we can go things like...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Maps/Full-Map.jpg)

...this! We handled the tedium, combated the trepidation, and now we've arrived at "eventual fulfillment!"

I hope this has inspired you to try your hand at some cartography of your own. With the right tools, a bit of knowledge and a whole lot of patience, you, too can make some Good Eats...sorry, I seem to have channeled a little Alton Brown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Eats) there for a second.

One final note—since this has been pretty much Photoshop-exclusive, I apologize if this does not translate to other programs. Hopefully, though, you can get some use out of it!

Take care!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on January 10, 2009, 07:03:35 AM
Oh my !!!! :o You have done there a fantastic tutorial Dustin, colossal work !  &apls &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on January 10, 2009, 09:12:35 AM
Whoa... Dustin, that finished product is fantastic... I really wish I had photoshop now!  :D

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: MandelSoft on January 10, 2009, 09:29:57 AM
Nice MD, Dustin. This is the first time that I stopped by here.

By the way, I used this method of making a map too!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on January 10, 2009, 09:32:08 AM
Fantastic second part of the tutorial there! And great work on that map, it is looking beautiful! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on January 10, 2009, 10:20:09 AM
Tha map surely looks great, very good job!... Looking forward to more!
Alan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: TheTeaCat on January 10, 2009, 11:57:28 AM
Wow Dustin
I just got caught up on all the recent stuff.
Goodness there was a lot ;D
Tutorials on mapmaking , marvellous mosiaics, Some of the most amazing individual pics I've seen for quite a while  &apls &apls
I'm at a loss for words

And there's the pics of your testing of the STR - run out of suitable words to compliment you with ::) :D :D

With such good quality MD it's no wonder you flew into the Classics  &apls &apls

 :satisfied:
TTC

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on January 10, 2009, 12:14:20 PM
Hi Dustin - that's an incredible tutorial you've put together for us there.  I certainly look forward to having a little play with that, for sure.

Thanks for sharing it.

Paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on January 10, 2009, 03:00:23 PM
Well, when you started fooling around with cartography, I was interested. Now I'm impressed. Very impressed. You've produced a beautiful map and, I am sure, inspired many to follow your example.

You continue to amaze and delight with your great ideas...
Joan

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Eliteforce on January 10, 2009, 11:44:57 PM
Wow that looks great, every detail is taken care of.  Now with the transportation infrastructure take care of, will as much care be taken for the power/water too?

I'm also very curious to how you will zone it and whether you make the entire island a massive  shore to shore city or more spread out with medium density. 

I like the way you are doing your mayor diary by making everything you do a tutorial, it helps us not smart mayors make our cities even better.


All I can say is  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on January 11, 2009, 03:41:28 PM
Thank you, Dustin, for such an in-depth tutorial! This is getting me motivated to make a similar map of my own.

I think you deserve a karma point for your tutorial. Perhaps the staff will notice... $%#Ninj2

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: sim_link on January 11, 2009, 08:43:44 PM
Great tutorial, thundercrack83! The finished map looks great, it gives a really good idea of the road nework in Marathon! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: projectadam on January 12, 2009, 01:56:47 AM
Dustin,

Yet again, another excellent tutorial. Unfortunately, my Adobe Creative Suite 3 does not get along very well with Vista and my Photoshop closes upon opening. I was trying to use InfraView and Paint but not having a program that uses layers takes out the ease of doing this method. I plan on having a throw down with Vista sometime this month and see if I can slap some compatibility into it so I can show off a map of the train system in Braska. Wishing you the best for 2009 and now I know what you are doing up late at nights, you are watching Good Eats :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on January 12, 2009, 07:19:36 AM
Wow, that's professional, Dustin!  Once again, it seems as though anything can become a tutorial in CoM.  This is one of the factors that makes CoM shine.  Not only do you build, make, and do wonderful things, but you explain your methods of doing them.  I truly enjoyed this update, Dustin, and I'm ready for more.

 &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: turtle on January 12, 2009, 08:01:55 AM
Wow, very nice map. I like your meticulous approach. Thank you for sharing  :)

/Thomas
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 13, 2009, 12:18:18 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Arthur (art128): Thank you, Arthur!

deathtopumpkins: Thanks, my friend! I hope you can get your hands on a copy of Photoshop!

Maarten (mrtnrln): Hello and welcome, Maarten! I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one using this method to make maps. I'd love to see your finished product sometime. Hope to see you here again soon!

bat: Thanks!

Alan (alan_vzla): Thanks, Alan! Much appreciated, my friend!

Derry (TheTeaCat): Welcome back, Derry! Thank you so much for your very kind words, my friend—coming from an MD master such as yourself, it makes me feel quite good! Thanks for coming by, I hope to see you here again!

Paul (paroch): Thanks, Paul! If you play around with it and come up with some maps, I'd love to see them! Though, I'm sure I will over in WEST END (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.0), which would definitely make my day!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! Thank you for your kind words, my friend! I'm glad you enjoyed both the tutorial and the finished map. Despite the tedium, it was actually a lot of fun making it. I'll be making more in the future, I'm sure. Thanks for stopping by!

Eliteforce: Thank you, my friend! To be honest, I don't put much thought into the power and water other than trying to come up with a realistic central location for the power supply, then connecting it to the rest of the area accordingly. As for water, I suppose I could take the same approach—I'll have to think more on it! Thanks for your kind words, and for putting the spark in my head!

Dan (dsrwhat316): Thanks, Dan! Like I said to the others, if you make a map of your own, I'd love to see it! Take care, my friend!

sim_link: Thank you so much, and welcome to Marathon! Oh, and you can call me Dustin, if you'd like!

projectadam: Thanks, my friend! I hope you can get your compatibility issues straightened out, as I'm sure maps of Braska (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6244.0) would be simply fantastic! Oh, and you hit the nail on the head, too—I usually catch an episode or two of Good Eats in the wee-hours, depending on if it's on. I'm a pretty big fan of Alton Brown, and it's funny how his approach to cooking could be applied to MDing! Thanks for coming by!

metarvo: Thank you so much! I'm so glad that you enjoy the tutorial approach to things, too. I like to do it whenever possible not only to show how I do things, but also in case I'm doing something wrong—that way, everyone can help out and steer me in the right direction! Hope to see you here again soon, my friend!

Thomas (turtle): Thank you, Thomas! "Meticulous" is a good description, it was pretty nerve-wracking to get the process all figured out, but we got there in the end!



Well, after my trip and an extended stay at my girlfriend's for the weekend, I'm finally back at my own computer, brainstorming where to take things here in Marathon...not that I wasn't brainstorming the entire trip, anyway!

In the meantime...another tidbit—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/020.jpg)

I'm trying to achieve that wonderful "rain effect" that I've seen on more than one occasion by our great Photoshop engineers here at SC4D. I think I'm on the right track—using a Texture Overlay, then reducing the opacity—but I think I'm off on the texture. Then again, I could be completely off on the process, too! Trial and error...it'll get you every time!

If anyone has any tips on it, I'd be more than grateful!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on January 13, 2009, 01:48:09 AM
Off on the texture or not, that looks quite good. Must be a heckuva storm the way the pic is obscured, but it looks good. Looking forward to seeing where the brainstorming leads you, and I hope the trip was good.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on January 13, 2009, 02:41:15 AM
My first visual impression was dense fog. Still, it might rain any minute. ;) As for experimenting with PS, sometimes I wonder if even the Adobe creative team really knows what all this software will do - I doubt it! ??? I'm playing around with the opacity sliders in layers right now, too, albeit in a different kind of application. Still, I can sympathize with the frustration and cheer for the occasional success!

Hope you had a pleasant weekend,
and glad to know you returned safely...
Joan

*EDIT* What is that tan building in the lower right quad? It looks almost crooked - kind of like an optical illusion. Or maybe I just need a bit more sleep! ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on January 13, 2009, 05:58:54 AM
I was thinking it was fog... Though whatever it is, it looks fantastic! &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on January 13, 2009, 06:03:05 AM
Hi Dustin
I'm sorry that I missed some incredible updates my friend
Thank you for the tutorial, also the last teasers are fantastic :o

I'm looking forward to the next update/teaser

Take care,
David
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Ennedi on January 13, 2009, 06:53:18 AM
You are making a fantastic work Dustin, so many different things happen in Marathon every few days, but everything looks consistent and professional  :) :thumbsup:
This is really one of the best and most informative MDs!

As for rain and such things - try to look free Photoshop brushes in the Web. Type "Photoshop, free, brushes" and you will find a lot of them. Brushes are a very powerful tool. You can type also "Free, Photoshop, brushes, rain" or "...clouds" or "...water" and you will see what will you get  $%#Ninj2 ;D

Adam
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on January 13, 2009, 07:09:08 AM
Hello,
Incredible has become your standard and this last picture is no exception at all.
I got the idea that it may have been a foggy picture before the rain, but very nice effect none the less.
 &apls
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on January 13, 2009, 12:02:11 PM
Welcome to page 30 my friend  &apls

Great picture there Dustin  :thumbsup: &apls I really like this rain effect, even if it's look more of a fog effect  ;)
And it's the Rush Hour for the trains ?  $%Grinno$%

Can't wait to see more !  ;)

Arthur.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on January 13, 2009, 12:35:50 PM
Hi Dustin, this new picture looks great, you have a very interesting mix of buildings and structures, the trains also look good!
The photoshop effect is good, but I think the rain ended up a little bit thick... anyway it looks good. Here's a link (http://photoshoptutorials.ws/photoshop-tutorials/photo-effects/rain.html) to a good tutorial, you may find new techniques there

Later, Alan

Oh, BTW 100th post (what a better thread than this to make it)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 13, 2009, 03:28:18 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Matt (threestooges): Thanks, Matt! The trip was great, the brainstorming is still in full force. I'm glad you enjoyed the picture, too, though you're very right—things are quite obscured!

Joan (Jmouse): I'm with you, Joan. It's much more fog and much less rain. But that's OK, fog is a weather phenomenon, too! I'm glad to hear that you're playing with Photoshop, too. For me, actually going in a playing around is a great way to see what everything does. It's also a great way to dig yourself into a huge hole, too! Good luck, my friend!

deathtopumpkins: Yep, it's definitely fog! That's OK, though—it's a learning experience, right?

David (Simpson): Hello! No problem on missing things, there's so much to see at SC4D, and not enough hours in the day! I'm glad you're all caught up and enjoyed the tutorial, too. Hope to see you around again, my friend!

Adam (Ennedi): Wow! Thanks for such a wonderful comment, Adam! Coming from a Hall of Fame MD author, it's very humbling, and coming from a good friend such as yourself, it means a lot to me! And thanks so much for the tip on searching for free brushes! I don't know why I never thought of doing that! Just a simple oversight, perhaps...or early onset memory loss...Thanks for coming by, Adam!

Robin (rooker1): Thanks so much, Robin! Fog seems to be the consensus, and I am definitely in agreement with it! You live, you learn! Thanks for your very kind words, too, my friend—as I said to Adam, it means so much coming from a great friend, especially one who has a high regard for honesty, such as yourself! Take care, my friend!

Arthur (art128): Fog's the word of the day around here, I think! But, hey, it's fine by me! And thanks for bringing us to page 30, my friend!

Alan (alan_vzla): Hi, Alan! Thank you so much for the tutorial link, my friend! I've put it to great use! And congratulations on making your 100th post, too! I'm glad you chose Marathon for such an auspicious occasion! Hope to see you around again soon!



Well, thanks to all the great input, we've reached an overwhelming consensus that the "rain effect" I went for in the last picture came out more fog and less rain. But, as I said, trial and error can lead more often to "error," but that's how we learn, eh?

So, thanks to the tips given by Adam (Ennedi), and the wonderful link to a tutorial by Alan (alan_vzla), I think I may be headed in a better direction!

Here's our original foggy picture...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/020.jpg)

Now, using the same picture for continuity, I've played with the tutorial in the hopes that I can achieve more of a rain feel...emphasis on hope...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/021.jpg)

And, digging deeper, I thought I'd try my hand at...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/022.jpg)

...some snow, too!

Who would have thought that weather would play such a big role in things? I'm still tweaking the rain end of things, as I think we're halfway between "rain" and "fog" with this latest one.

Many thanks to Adam and Alan, and to all of you for your input and advice!

Maybe we'll explore these things in more detail, perhaps? We'll see!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Ennedi on January 13, 2009, 04:27:08 PM
Wow, what a quick response!  ;D :thumbsup:

Alan's advice is really very useful. Every tutorial showing how to make something from scratch, using only basic Photoshop tools, is a great way to learn photo editing, it also help to understand many custom Photoshop plugins (they are also made step by step by talented artists). I must say I like your second picture more (the snow is very nice too  :)).

As for custom brushes: people who never used them often think that a brush should have relatively small size (for example 20 or 50 pixels) and their main function is to paint by them like by material brush on canvas (paper etc.). But, for example, rain or cloud brushes have often much larger size (1000, 1500 or 2500 pixels), they cover the whole picture or a big part of it and you can use the effect by only a single click (or a few clicks, but not too much!). Of course you should play with the brush color, layers, opacity and blending modes too.

In my opinion there is nothing bad in using Photoshop effects. Sometimes they can amazingly emphasize the natural beauty of SC4 landscapes and various game objects including all beautiful buildings created by our talented friends.

But sometimes of course the "raw" SC4 image is the best one  ;)

Adam
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on January 13, 2009, 05:07:59 PM
I think you got it on this one...  :thumbsup:

That definitely looks like rain. I think the snowy one looks really cool too. I might see if I can apply some of this with GIMP.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on January 13, 2009, 05:57:26 PM
You nailed it this time, Dustin, and the snow is specially nice. Wish I was lucky enough to get something right in only one or two tries! ?=mad)=

Later...

Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [01/10/09]: UPDATE XVI: On the Tedium...
Post by: Pat on January 13, 2009, 06:24:32 PM

I hope this has inspired you to try your hand at some cartography of your own. With the right tools, a bit of knowledge and a whole lot of patience, you, too can make some Good Eats...sorry, I seem to have channeled a little Alton Brown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Eats) there for a second.

One final note—since this has been pretty much Photoshop-exclusive, I apologize if this does not translate to other programs. Hopefully, though, you can get some use out of it!

Take care!

Hey Dustin I just gotten caught up after being out of service here for a wee bit.... What I wanted to say is even before I saw you was channeling Alton Brown I knew it lol....  I watch way too much good eats lol... 

Now far as being to photoshop heavy tut, I don't honestly mind cause I learned something new... Plus another great thing that came out of the tut is a wonderful map!!! Great job on it!!!!  Now for the other updates with practicing with different elements now those are real sweet!!!!

Your doing a great job here and I cant wait to see what happens next!!!

Pat
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 15, 2009, 02:18:17 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Adam (Ennedi): Hi, Adam! Your advice on the custom brushes is brilliant! I never though to make one that is 2000-2500 pixels and then just click once, I'm definitely going to have to give that one a try very soon! I'm agree on Photoshop, too—I like to use it a supplementary for the most part, just enhancing and clearing up the in-game shots. But, sometimes I just can't resist take the program out for a spin and seeing what it can do, too! Thanks for you wonderful tips, Adam!

deathtopumpkins: Thanks, my friend! I think we're getting there!

Joan (Jmouse): Thanks, Joan! I'm particularly happy with the snow one, too. And what's the old saying, "It's better to be lucky than good?" I think that adage applies to my Photoshop exploits. Thanks for coming by, my friend!

Pat: Hey, another Alton Brown fan! Like I said, I usually catch at least one episode in the wee-hours of the morning. I'm glad you're all caught up and that you enjoyed the tutorial, my friend! Hope to see you again soon!



Two words—New NAM...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/025.jpg)

...well, technically one word and one acronym, but the sentiment is the same! Just got it downloaded and played around a bit. Upon first application, we'll go to...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/023.jpg)

...the eastern end of the Westmoreland Avenue Tunnel, which was constructed in the aptly named UPDATE XI: Constructing the Westmoreland Avenue Tunnel (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg207457#msg207457)!

With the New NAM, we can now do...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/024.jpg)

...this!

It's a new day, friends! And that's just the tip of the iceberg!

If you haven't already gotten your copy of the January 2009 Release of the NAM (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6763.0;topicseen), I suggest you drop everything you're doing and download it posthaste!

Many thanks and congratulations to the entire NAM Team for another magnificent release. Without you guys, we'd still be in the SC4 Stone Age!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on January 15, 2009, 02:39:05 PM
Nice new pictures there! And the ones with the rain are looking beautiful! Nice work, Dustin! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on January 15, 2009, 04:04:25 PM
OK that does it - I'm going to have to DL the new NAM and start a region. Seriously. Fantastic photos, Dustin.

Dare I hope these awesome elements like the ones you've shown us are "friendly" to transport-design challenged players? Looks like it's a whole brave new world out there today!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dedgren on January 15, 2009, 08:40:10 PM
Heh!  Three words: Commonwealth of Marathon.  The new NAM pics just add depth to something that's already first class, Dustin.  I can't wait to see what you do with all that new NAM content.


David
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on January 15, 2009, 11:07:03 PM
Heheheeh Dustin I sure am and I love his antics on ICA (http://www.foodnetwork.com/iron-chef-america/index.html) for sure as well!!! But anyways I love what you are doing with Jan 09 NAM!!!! I cant wait to see what you cook up next  :D
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 16, 2009, 01:28:13 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

bat: Thank you so much, bat!

Joan (Jmouse): You have to do it, Joan! The new NAM and the RHW 3.0 are just what you need to get started! I hope to see what you come up with, my friend! And thanks for your kind words and support, as always!

David (dedgren): You're too kind, my friend! I'm still sifting through all the great new stuff, but it's hard not to get those ideas and creative juices flowing! Thanks for coming by, David!

Pat: I'm a fan of Iron Chef America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Chef_America) (though I like the original Japanese edition better), too, as well as AB's Feasting on... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feasting_on_Asphalt) series. Actually, with the exception of that Guy Fieri, I can watch just about anything on the Food Network for some reason. Very strange, indeed, considering I don't do much cooking! But anyway...thanks for your continued support, my friend! It's always great to see you here!



Still brainstorming, and in the meantime, rummaging!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/026.jpg)

Another tidbit I found floating in a folder. Truth be told, I don't know where this one came from!

Still thinking and figuring, figuring and thinking...

In a bit!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on January 16, 2009, 02:49:18 AM
I don't recognize the central buildings there, but I love the news building at the top. Deadwoods right? I think I have that one from years back. Incidentally, your comment to Pat reminded me, nice plug for Good Eats. That is an excellent show. Food Network has some pretty good shows to its name. I don't mind Guy too much, but Rahcel Ray can drive me up the wall. But I digress, back to the teaser here. The fourth building from the left strikes me as either a JMyers or spa; I know I've seen it somewhere before. Not sure on the others though. Waiting to see where the figuring and thinking leads.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on January 16, 2009, 04:11:26 AM
Nice picture there! It is looking great!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on January 16, 2009, 02:39:07 PM
Looks like you put spa's buildings to good use, Dustin. After seeing that trumpet interchange in your last teaser, I'm really anxious to experiment further with the new NAM and RHW 3.0. In fact, I'll do just that....   ()lurker()

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on January 16, 2009, 03:43:30 PM
You've created quite a contrast in this pic, Dustin - down-and-out slums across from a cute little shopping strip. That's a beautiful BAT on the corner, but seems a bit out of place against the other buildings. I love those five little W2W shops, though. Do you recall if the buildings grew like that or were they plopped?

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on January 17, 2009, 03:14:20 AM
Nice picture there Dustin, excellent W2W my friend !
Great Mix of industrial and commercial.  :thumbsup:

Arthur.  ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on January 17, 2009, 08:29:42 AM
Hello Dustin,
 Great work on the photoshoping, it looks like you are mastering the program in no time at all.
 I have had a chnace to play with the new version of NAM yesterday and I think it's fantastic, especially that new triumpet split.  The way you have used it looks perfect.  Now I am trying to find places where I can fit in all the new stuff.
 Always great to stop in here my friend, always great pics and great reading.  &apls
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on January 17, 2009, 12:04:03 PM
So, you've been playing around with the new NAM, Dustin?  I downloaded it as soon as I heard about it, because I simply couldn't wait.  :D  I did manage to tear myself away from the game itself for a little while to check on Marathon, though.  For something that was collecting dust on your HDD, that pic looks pretty good.  Keep up the good work, Dustin!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on January 17, 2009, 05:21:29 PM
Again, very interesting mix of buildings... good pic!

Happy 600 comments and welcome to page 30
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: sim_link on January 18, 2009, 09:22:27 AM
The 3 updates look great! :thumbsup: I really like what you did with the pictures with the rain and snow, looks really cool.
What you did to the interchange with the new NAM trumpet interchange also looks cool, more realistic. The rummaging picture also looks good. :)
Can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [01/19/09]: UPDATE XVII: Westmoreland Tunnel...
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 19, 2009, 09:48:14 PM
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Matt (threestooges): Hi, Matt! Thanks for your help on identifying the buildings there! They are, for the most part creations by spa, but you hit the nail on the head with the news building, too! As for Rachael Ray, I'm with you on her, too, though I have to admit I'd watch her before Guy Fieri. Something about him just irks me! Thanks for stopping by, my friend!

bat: Thanks, my friend!

Dan (dsrwhat316): Thanks, Dan! I can't wait to see what kind of things you can come up with using the new NAM! I'm sure they'll be outstanding, my friend! Take care!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! I'm glad that you enjoyed the picture, my friend! Now that you mention it about the out-of-place building on the corner, I remember where this picture came from—scrutineering. The six buildings in the center of the picture were to be scrutineered, and I threw in the surrounding stuff to have some fun with it when I was through. So, that also answers you question about whether they were grown or plopped, too. They were plopped! Thanks for coming by, Joan!

Arthur (art128): Thank you so much, Arthur!

Robin (rooker1): Thanks so much, Robin! I think I'm getting more adept with Photoshop, though I have to find some more things to learn new skills with it. As for the new NAM, I'm sure that you'll come up with the some great ways to use it, and I'll be nothing short of blown away! Take care, my friend, and thanks for dropping by!

metarvo: Sorry to hear that Marathon got you away from the NAM, my friend! I'm still playing around with things and getting the old wheels turning. That's the best part of a new release like this, it makes everything seem completely new! Thanks for you continued support, and hope to see you here soon!

Alan (alan_vzla): Thanks so much! And hanks for making our 600th comment here!

sim_link: Hi! Thank you so much for your very kind words! I hope to see you back again!




UPDATE XVII
Westmoreland Tunnel East End, Redux
19 January 2009

It's been a little while, sorry about that! Cast your minds back, if you will, to UPDATE XI: Constructing Westmoreland Tunnel (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg207457#msg207457)—particularly, the eastern end of the eponymous underground viaduct...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2011/11015.jpg)

As you may recall, I was not happy with how this end of the tunnel came out, and left a door open for changes in the future. Well...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/024.jpg)

...thanks to the NAM January 2009 Release, the future is now!

We begin with the picture above. The first order of business is to deal with the "seven-shaped" escarpment (for lack of a better term) on the south end of the tunnel entrance/exit.

Normally, I'd be puzzled as to how to best fill such an odd area. But then, I thought of an old and dear friend...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2017/17001.jpg)

...the Jean Canfield Building (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1766) by spa! There is not a better building for such a scenario!

Now, we...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2017/17002.jpg)

...tweak the area, first use streets to surround it, and then I use another must-have for everyone—the SFBT Diagonal Filler Lots (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1197)—to fill in the tiles underneath the diagonal section of the building.

Next, we'll move across the diagonal portion of the highway, where the initial construction of...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2017/17003.jpg)

...a park has begun, with the use of the SFBT Diagonal Fillers. But, lo! A bit of a sidetrack hits.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2017/17004.jpg)

I did not quite care for that zig-zagged section of avenue. So, what do we have to remedy it?

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2017/17005.jpg)

This—a split avenue! The upside is that it will add some variety to the area and get rid of that pesky zig-zag. The downside? Time for a new draft of the Marathon Island map...but that's another show.

Park construction continues...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2017/17006.jpg)

...as a pond and stream a put in place...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2017/17007.jpg)

...in addition to paths, gazebos, and park walls.

To the east of the park, we have...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2017/17008.jpg)

...some mid-level urban development, as well as the highway overpass—sans exit ramps at this stage.

We head back to west and to the north side of the tunnel entrance/exit, where we place...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2017/17009.jpg)

...another jewel from our good friend spa, the Canadian Broadcasting Centre (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1765), as well as other buildings as the area begins to fill in.

Highway walls go in, too—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2017/17010.jpg)

with a pedestrian bridge thrown in for good measure!

Here is the eastern part near the highway overpass...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2017/17011.jpg)

...complete with exit ramps and highway walls.

And...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2017/17012.jpg)

...an overview of the area east of the Westmoreland Tunnel.

And for even better measure...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2017/17013.jpg)

Not one, but...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2017/17014.jpg)

...two mosaïcs!

That is, as they say, that.

On another quick note, if you haven't already seen it, our very good friend projectadam—author of the OSITM MD Elizbeth County (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6244.0)—has started a fantastic thread called Place Your Region in the World (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6783.0), which allows MD authors to place their MD on a map of the world! If you're MD author and you want to join in, stop over and get added on to the map! If you're not an MD author, stop over anyway and check it out!

Incidentally, things may be a bit slow-going here in Marathon, as we've come to the actual city-building phase of things. I will be trying to document everything as I go, though, so there should be a fair amount of teasing, as well as doodling to keep your appetites sufficiently whetted.

As always, suggestions and advice are more than welcome!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on January 19, 2009, 10:33:04 PM
Hmm... I missed the last few updates Dustin, sorry about that.

That is the perfect spot for that building! I wonder if spa imagined a situation like that when he made it? Though I must say I don't particularly care for that park... too many conflicting base textures.

And I think you've convinced me to try out those highway walls. They're on the STEX, right?

Those are some great shots of the city! Excellent work, Dustin.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Haljackey on January 19, 2009, 10:47:16 PM
Geesh I'm such a lurker here, can't believe I haven't posted yet!

But your amazing planning with the new highway interchange and the surrounding area pretty much made me want to leave a comment.  That's quite a development, and I really enjoyed looking at the way you laid it out beforehand. 

There's no question why this MD is so popular, your effort really shows!  Fantastic update Dustin!

Perhaps I'll leave a reply more often now that I'm out of "lurk-mode".   :P

Best,
-Haljackey
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Nexis4Jersey on January 20, 2009, 12:58:33 AM
Ah , nice touch up on the Depressed Hwy interchange & Tunnel area :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on January 20, 2009, 02:41:44 AM
Well done Dustin. It's amazing how even a little change (not saying the NAM is a little change but...) can make things just fall into place. Spa's buildings are excellent, and the split avenue is a nice touch. I was a bit surprised to see it considering how griddy the rest of the city is, but it does add some variety to things. The park, pond and walls all fit together nicely. One thing you could do, if you run out of things for updates (not likely, but on the off chance) I'd love to see how you get those offramps to work like you do. I've seen a few tutorials, etc, but I generally end up levelling the land or gettiing some rather odd slopes. I can see how Guy might irk you a bit. He is a bit... energetic... or something. Ah well, perhaps Good Eats is on... a nice break before bed. Take it easy.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on January 20, 2009, 06:52:11 AM
Hello Dustin,

 I'm never sure where you find the time to do all the things that you do.  You must have a schedule all set up or something like that.  Alarms go off and than you know that you need to go on to your next item on the agenda.  :D  ;)
 Fantastic pics.  I really like the amount of details you add to your city and the amount of time you spend is very obvious (or you really are just that good).  Good use of BuddyBud's highway walls around the new trumpet exchange.  Who would have figured first that it would fit so well, besides you. &apls
 I have always wondered to myself just how much of your city is grown compared to ploped.  Care to tell?
 The pond parks look good themselves, but I have a problem when I see water next to sunken transportation ways.  Water always finds a way down, it just seems illogical to me.  How is it that your sunken highway doesn't fill with water and the pond go dry. ::)  ;)  Anyways, I see alot of different people doing the same thing.
 And, I love that you do so many mosaics.  My favourite way to someone's city.  It always gives a better perspective on how everything fits together and it is definately much harder to hide the imperfections....not that I'm saying I have found any...yet.  ohhh, except for the pond....hehe
 Okay, enough picking on you....for now.
 See ya later my friend,
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on January 20, 2009, 07:21:03 AM
Fantastic work on that newest update! And the park is looking really nice! Wonderful pictures of your city! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on January 20, 2009, 07:49:31 AM
 &apls &apls Excellent update and work my friend. It`s great to see the evolution of it . Very good idea the peg stream use  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: TheTeaCat on January 20, 2009, 08:09:36 AM
Good grief Dustin
where do you get the time to do all this stuff? I can barely keep up.
It amazes me how people get so much done so quickly.

I had just about caught up and you slip in more updates with truly stunning pics.
the rain,foggy,snowy pics - sweet
then the reworking of the area just because the new NAM came out and the step by step
pics of the rebuilding of the area, nice work mate.

I too am concerned like Robin that the pond and stream are above the sunken highway.
Water does tend to find it own level so lets hope that the groundwork for the stream and pond
has had a proper waterproof course built in ::) :D

2 mosaics - way to go :D :D
Wikked ones too there are

Till the next time

Regards
Derry
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on January 20, 2009, 02:36:06 PM
A-1 update, Dustin. It was fascinating to see the thought processes as you worked your way through the latest development process. Your BAT choices look great, and I like the way you’ve made all the elements fit together.

I really like the looks of development in the 13th photo, especially that green-roofed building toward the lower right. Then the next pic is like a well-done ad for the new NAM – stunning! Of course, the mosaics really top it all off in style.

Another excellent installment…
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on January 20, 2009, 02:44:24 PM
Dustin, it's a very nice area there my friend. &apls
The new interchange looks awesome in your city  :thumbsup:

Arthur.  ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on January 20, 2009, 04:39:08 PM
Don't worry about pulling me away from the NAM, Dustin.  I needed an excuse to get off the game, since I spent way too much time on it that day anyway.  ;D  Good job on including some diagonals in Marathon.  Of course, I'm sure that drivers must slow down when navigating that sharp 135-degree turn near the Jean Canfield Building, but you certainly have decorated it well.  The sunken highways also look very good, as always.  Keep it up, Dustin!

 &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: projectadam on January 20, 2009, 04:42:46 PM
Dustin,

In the words of Judge Smails(1), another "TOP NOTCH, TOP NOTCH" update! It was not like the first go at this section of tunnel was bad or anything but I think the changes that you made enhance the area significantly. Excellent placement of the Jean Canfield Building and Canadian Broadcasting Centre, along with the parks and other buildings. I have no idea what I would do driving down the freeway though and seeing the abs on the billboard :D Great work and cannot wait to see how the city develops.

1Bonus points for those who know who Judge Smails is without having to look it up ;)


Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: CarmineHilton on January 20, 2009, 05:48:44 PM
Lovely pictures, Dustin! Your MD is just going up up up like a rocket ;)
Great quality, kudos for that x

xo
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: spa on January 20, 2009, 07:32:55 PM
Those are some really impressive highways! You do a great job in placing the parks and buildings in a realistic manner. I'm glad you like my stuff. I wouldn't have thought of using diagonal park fillers to round out the bare edge of the diagonal Jean Canfield, but it actually works quite well. I'll have to go download those :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [01/21/09]: UPDATE XVIII: An Impromptu...
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 21, 2009, 12:18:31 AM
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deathtopumpkins: Hi! No worries about missing things, it's OK! Thanks for your kind words, to my friend. I'm with you on the clashing textures, too—I think I may look to a solution, or at least an alternative. Thanks for coming by!

Haljackey: Hello and welcome! I'm glad you're enjoying things and that you've come out of "lurk mode!" Hope to see you here again!

Nexis: Thank you!

Matt (threestooges): Hi, Matt! Thanks so much! I split the avenue partly try and break up the grid at a secondary road level, since the primary avenues are in more of a grid pattern. As for your sunken highway question, I'll see if I can come up with an answer for you one of these days...(perhaps right now...)

Robin (rooker1): Hello, Robin! There's no schedule, just a lot of time on my hands and a mind that never seems to shut off! As for whether things are plopped or grown, I tend to do a lot of plopping because my sense of order (read "obsessive-compulsiveness!) tends to want to change everything that's grown. Not to mention that I haven't taken the time to work with the CAM as much as I would have liked to. But, don't worry, I'll get there one of these days! Oh, and the water next to the sunken highway never even entered into my mind—you're on top of things! I'm guessing there's a state-of-the-art drainage system in the highway walls, perhaps? I'll ponder that one a while...Thanks for stopping in, Robin!

bat: Thanks, my friend! I'm glad you liked it!

kimcar: Thank you so much! It took a bit of plopping and bulldozing, but I think I'm happy with the result, and I'm happy that you are, too! Take care!

Derry (TheTeaCat): Hi, there, Derry! Good to see you here, my friend! I'm glad you're enjoying things here in Marathon, too. As I said to Robin, I'll be pondering the water / sunken highway question a bit, since I never even thought of it! Thanks for stopping in!

Joan (Jmouse): Thanks, Joan! I did a bit of bulldozing, trying to get things to work right, but I think I got there. As it went from west to east (from the tunnel entrance towards the highway exit), I was trying to represent both a wealth and zone change—going from higher wealth commercial to lower-wealth residential. I don't know if I represented well, though! It's always great to have you here, my friend!

Arthur (art128): Thanks, Arthur!

metarvo: Hi, my friend! I've spent too much time in the game on more than one occasion, myself! It's amazing how quickly the time passes, especially when you have a small computer and a large plug-in folder as I do! Thanks for your wonderful comments and support!

projectadam: Thanks so much! The old set-up was OK, but I'm much happier with the current one. The buildings seem to fit together better for me. Oh, and I know Judge Smails very well, and Ty Webb! Though, he'll always be Ted Baxter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Knight) to me! Take care!

CarmineHilton: Thank you! After seeing the outstanding work you've been doing over in Savoie (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6787.0), it certainly means a lot to me coming from you, my friend! See you over there!

spa: Welcome, my friend! I certainly! Let me thank you personally for the absolutely extraordinary creations that I've had the pleasure to use in Marathon! I just hope I'm able to do them the justice they so rightly deserve! Thanks so much for stopping in!




UPDATE XVIII
An Impromptu, Interrogative Intermezzo
21 January 2009

Impromptu, indeed. I was going to go with "extemporaneous," but I couldn't pass up the alliteration! Anyway...

We'll have quick look at a question asked by our very good friend Matt (threestooges):

Quote
...

One thing you could do, if you run out of things for updates (not likely, but on the off chance) I'd love to see how you get those offramps to work like you do. I've seen a few tutorials, etc, but I generally end up levelling the land or gettiing some rather odd slopes.

...

Upon further reading, it's more of a request than a question, but I guess it could be formed into a question. Well, here goes nothing, Matt!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2018/18001.jpg)

We'll start with a pristine sunken highway. I'll presume that you can get this far with the sunken highway on your own, but if not, that's OK! Just have a look at Update V: Sunken Highways, A Tutorial (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg200188#msg200188), and it should get you there.

Now, your first thought may be just to drag the network you want to use across, but...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2018/18007.jpg)

...don't. It will mess up the terrain levels. Unfortunately, I learned this lesson the hard way, toiling for endless hours trying to get the ramp sections to line up perfectly before I realize it was done with NAM pieces.

So—the first step is to surround the trench with an access road.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2018/18002.jpg)

This will give the entrance and exit ramps something to recognize when it's time to plop them. That time...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2018/18003.jpg)

...happens to be now. Select Single-Sided Parallel Ramps, then hit [Tab] twice in order to get Ground Highway Parallel Ramp - Road, and...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2018/18004.jpg)

...place accordingly. Then, hit [Tab] two more time (four times total from the beginning of the loop), and...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2018/18005.jpg)

...place again. Note that I've left a tile's worth of space between the ramps.

With that space, I can do things like...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2018/18006.jpg)

...that, using the NAM Puzzle Pieces. I've used roads as an example, but it can be done with one-way roads or avenues, if you desire.

Also, you do not necessarily have to have the access roads hug the side of the trench as I've shown in the above example.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2018/18008.jpg)

As long as you have the road there for the entrance and exit ramps to recognize and connect to, you can go anywhere from there!

I hope that answers your question, Matt. If not, feel free to let me know and we'll see how we can further help!

More from Marathon in a bit!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Tarkus on January 21, 2009, 12:34:16 AM
Dustin, sorry I haven't stopped by here in awhile.  It appears I've missed a lot of great stuff!  You definitely seem to be having fun with andreharv's new additions to the NAM, and I enjoyed the Westmoreland Tunnel project there.  That Canfield building does indeed seem to fit perfectly, and I really like what you did with the pond kits as a median to that Split Avenue.  The surrounding city looks great as well--it reminds me of aleking a bit.

And this latest tutorial is great and very easy to follow!

Excellent, excellent work as always! :thumbsup:

-Alex (Tarkus)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on January 21, 2009, 01:58:04 AM
Thanks Dustin. That was a remarkably fast response, and a well done one too. I think that answers my question... request?... suggestion?... whatever it was, it was certainly informative. I think I was trying to place the ramps before the roads (resulting in some significant terrain adjustment). This should do the trick. As for the pong question raised by Robin, perhaps it's lined with plastic, either by the city when they dug their trench, or by the developer who may have built the pond to keep it from leaking. Nice work Dustin. This is an excellent piece of work you have going.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on January 21, 2009, 08:24:54 AM
Welcome to page 32! ;)

Nice update, looking forward to more... ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: sim_link on January 21, 2009, 03:27:43 PM
Woah, the highway area looks much better! Great job.:thumbsup: Love the tutorial on sunken highway ramps, I'll have to try that out. :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Haljackey on January 21, 2009, 06:21:03 PM
Wow, thats a great and simple little tutorial!

The only thing I don't like with that setup is that the on/off ramps are so steep.  If you're willing to sacrifice another tile or two on either side, you can use andreharv's new side on/off ramps, and then connect them to a OWR which can gradually climb the slope and intersect with the road. 

Still, the last pic looks great with all those curvy roads.  Nice job!   :thumbsup:

Best,
-Haljackey
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on January 22, 2009, 07:38:01 PM
Hey Matt, glad you asked! :) That's a great tutorial, Dustin, and will be helpful to those of us who are somewhat transport challenged! I get road rash just thinking about trying to create a highway system!

Anyway, I recall mentioning feeder roads early on, and I'm glad to see now how you use them. I'm not convinced coming off a major highway and immediately hitting an intersection would be a good thing in RL, so I'm interested in knowing if it will work in game. Are you far enough along in actual Marathon development to have seen much traffic and studied the patterns?

Either way, good job presenting another interesting and informative update!
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [01/26/09]: UPDATE XIX: Hey Bono—These Streets...
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 26, 2009, 12:58:33 AM
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Alex (Tarkus): Great to see you here again, Alex! The new NAM is as wonderful, as always! I feel like a kid on Christmas morning whenever a new NAM comes out. I'm glad you like the area around the tunnel, and I hope to see you back again, my friend!

Matt (threestooges): Hi, Matt! I'm glad that I was able to help you out! I had a feeling that you were trying to plop the ramp before the road, but when I went into the game to try and illustrate that, it wouldn't let me do it, for some reason. I've done that myself before, so I don't know what happened. Either way, though, I hope you're on your way to building some sunken highways of your own! Take care!

bat: Thank you, my friend!

sim_link: Hello! Thanks for your great comment, and I hope you have fun trying things out!

Haljackey: Thanks so much, Haljackey! I'm glad you liked it!

Joan (Jmouse): Hey, there, Joan! Thank you very much, my friend! As for the feeder roads, you've brought up a very interesting point about the intersections. I actually haven't investigated it in the game, I just did because it seemed like a sensible thing to do when I was laying the sunken highway! I'll have to check it out, and if it seems like it's going to be an issue, we may be revisiting the concept! Whatever happens, though, I'll definitely be posting the results here! Thanks for coming by, Joan!




UPDATE XIX
Hey, Bono—These Streets Do Have Names!
26 January 2009

I apologize for the little lull in action here in Marathon, but I've been engrossed in a bit of a project, the fruits of which I will now share!

We'll go back to our finished map from UPDATE XVI: On the Tedium, Trepidation, and Eventual Fulfillment of Cartography, Part II: From the Drawing Board to...You! (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg213715#msg213715):

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Maps/Full-Map.jpg)

Well, because that map was such a joy to make, and because I'm a glutton for punishment, I decide to replicate it, but much larger! Using the same method outlined in Updates XV (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg213068#msg213068) and XVI (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6190.msg213715#msg213715), I created the same map, only this time using 768x768 tiles instead of 256x256, which was the dimension of each tile used to produce the one above.

The purpose of this—as our update title alluded—was street names! Yes, three-plus days of work toiling in Photoshop for street names! What can I say? I've got problems!

We'll start first, with L'Anneau de Marathon, which is the official name of the avenue ring that circumnavigates Marathon Island. The L'Anneau, as it's called for short in Marathon (with or without the redundant English and French definite articles!), has been partitioned into four quadrants by the Marathon Department of Transportation:

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Maps/Quadrant.jpg)

In many instances, the L'Anneau runs concurrent with other streets. For postage purposes, both names are used, with the L'Anneau and quadrant preceding:

          Schmidt, Rose, and McGraw
          Attorneys at Law
          L'Anneau de Marathon NE
          1808 St. Lawrence Avenue E
          MARATHON


Special street signs have been posted to designate the L'Anneau...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2019/19005.jpg)

The top-right section of the street sign denotes in which quadrant the sign is located.

Major thoroughfares that run parallel from west to east have been names according to an alphabetical naming system from A to Z (U and V have been omitted), going south to north, and designated as Avenues: Acadia, Bathurst, Châteauguay, Daigneault, Elliot, Foxborough, Grand Banks, Halifax, Independence, Joliett, Kittery, Lampreys, Muller, Newfoundland, Oxbow, Presque Isle, Quay, Ridley, Shawinigan, Telegraph, Westmoreland.

North-south thoroughfares are not named according to any specific system.

Below is an street sign example, with directional indicator in the top-right corner.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2019/19006.jpg)

Also, a north-south street sign:

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2019/19007.jpg)

Smaller streets and non-arterial thoroughfares are usually labeled as Streets:

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2019/19004.jpg)

Directional indicators may or may not be used, depending on whether the street crosses the directional boundary of Kittery Avenue for north-south, or Moncton Avenue for east-west.

So, without any further information, I present to you the most current incarnation our the Marathon Island street map! NOTE: This map is quite large.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2019/19001.jpg) (http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Maps/Street.jpg)

It took a long while and a lot of work to put together! Here's a few samples of the process:

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2019/19003.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2019/19002.jpg)

Despite the hours, I had a lot of fun put this together, especially naming all the streets. In honor of that, I thought we could play a little game!

Below, I have listed ten street names from Marathon Island—nine based on geographical and/or cultural surroundings, with the tenth being three different streets that have a common bond. Bearing in mind the geographic location of Marathon (North America, Maine-New Brunswick (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&q=New%20Brunswick%2C%20Canada&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl)), see if you can guess the significance of the street names!

Example: Halifax Avenue — Halifax, Nova Scotia

Make sense? OK, here we go!

1. Aroostook Street
2. Grand Banks Avenue
3. Presque Isle Avenue
4. Shawinigan Avenue
5. Acadia Svenue
6. Bathurst Avenue
7. Passamaquoddy Avenue
8. Châteauguay Avenue
9. Kittery Avenue
10. Find the common bond: Daigneault Avenue, Desjardins Street, Muller Avenue
BONUS: Find a specific bond between Acadie and Bathurst!


The first person to get them all correct (including the bonus!) will get a prize perhaps an SC4D subscription?!

Good luck, and I hope you enjoyed this street-oriented expedition!

In a bit!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Alfred.Jones on January 26, 2009, 02:53:56 AM
Below, I have listed ten street names from Marathon Island—nine based on geographical and/or cultural surroundings, with the tenth being three different streets that have a common bond. Bearing in mind the geographic location of Marathon (North America, Maine-New Brunswick (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&q=New%20Brunswick%2C%20Canada&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl)), see if you can guess the significance of the street names!

Example: Halifax Avenue — Halifax, Nova Scotia

Make sense? OK, here we go!

1. Aroostook Street
2. Grand Banks Avenue
3. Presque Isle Avenue
4. Shawinigan Avenue
5. Acadia Svenue
6. Bathurst Avenue
7. Passamaquoddy Avenue
8. Châteauguay Avenue
9. Kittery Avenue
10. Find the common bond: Daigneault Avenue, Desjardins Street, Muller Avenue
BONUS: Find a specific bond between Acadie and Bathurst!


The first person to get them all correct (including the bonus!) will get a prize!

Good luck, and I hope you enjoyed this street-oriented expedition!

In a bit!

Hey Dustin,

I have been lurking your MD for a while but never posted. Sorry &mmm

But I can't not post when you have put so much work into these street names!

I hope I got the idea of the game.

Here are my answers ;)

1. Aroostook Street - Aroostook, New Brunswick
2. Grand Banks Avenue - Grand Banks of Newfoundland Plateaus
3. Presque Isle Avenue - Presque Isle, Maine
4. Shawinigan Avenue - Shawinigan, Quebec
5. Acadia Avenue - Acadia National Park, Maine
6. Bathurst Avenue - Bathurst, New Brunswick
7. Passamaquoddy Avenue - The Native American people who live in Maine and New Brunswick
8. Châteauguay Avenue - Châteauguay, Quebec
9. Kittery Avenue - Kittery, Maine
10. Find the common bond: Daigneault Avenue, Desjardins Street, Muller Avenue - I'm guessing this has something to do with retired Canadian Ice Hockey players J. J. Daigneault, Martin Desjardins and Kirk Muller?

I can't as yet find a bond between Acadia and Bathurst but i'm working on it. I will post if I find one.

Thanks,

AJ :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on January 26, 2009, 03:07:03 AM
Nice work on the street names there! And looking forward to more...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: projectadam on January 26, 2009, 03:07:20 AM
Bonus Question: The Titans???
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dedgren on January 26, 2009, 03:26:23 AM
Or the region [linkie] (http://acadie-bathurst.com/site/Municipality.aspx?lang=en-US&muni=9).

Great contest, Dustin.  And, my guess is that you've probably retired the trophy for Best SC4-based Cartography in 2009 early this year.  I scrolled around that for the better part of 10 minutes.  An absolute joy to look at.


David


Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on January 26, 2009, 03:45:12 AM
Here's my meager little attempt.

1   Aroostook is athe largest county in Maine. It is located in the northernmost area of the state.
2   Grand Banks is a group of underwater plateaus southeast of Newfoundland.
3   Presque Isle is home to the University of Maine.
4   Shawinigan is a city on the Saint Maurice River in Quebec
5   Acadia National Park is located in Hancock County, Maine.
6   Bathurst, unlike its counterpart in Australia, is a city in New Brunswick.
7   Passamaquoddy Bay is an inlet of the Bay of Fundy between Maine and New Brunswick.
8   Châteauguay County is located in the southwest corner of the Province of Quebec, Canada.
9   Kittery, Maine, has a winter parking ban!
10   Mitch Daigneault, Richard Desgardins and Pete Muller are all musicians who are either from Marathon’s general area or live near there now. Of course, they could always be hockey players though! :D

Very clever and thoughtful system for naming streets. Once again, you amaze me with your creativity and organizational skills. BTW, I have a couple of extra Big Chief tablets I can send your way if you need them. :D

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on January 26, 2009, 10:10:23 AM
Whoa! Nice map there Dustin! Very professional, even down to the copyright and serial number? along the bottom edge.

Though I think everyone else beat me to the street name game...  :D (Some of us are asleep at 2 AM  :P )

Oh, and those are some fancy street signs! 'Round here we've just got plain white-on-blue ones.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on January 26, 2009, 03:56:16 PM
Dustin,

 Not sure where to begin.  Your map turned out much more better than I had first thought it would and I really like how all the roads are named. 
 The contest is a great little additive as well, I'll have to have a look at it and see if I can figure any of it out.

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Tarkus on January 26, 2009, 04:19:33 PM
Dustin, this is an absolutely fantastic update here.  I'm in map heaven right now--that's one of the finest I've ever seen, and I intend to stare at it for some time. :D  It's also great to hear about some of the street naming practices in Marathon as well--I'm always fascinated by that sort of stuff being the big roadgeek that I am.  I've always been keen on the alphabetical naming setup, too--makes it rather easy to navigate things. 

I also couldn't help but notice Duke of Gloucester Street on there--immediately reminded me of Annapolis, Maryland.  The layout, in some ways, kind of reminds me of Washington, DC a little--particularly around Independence Avenue. ;)

Fascinating, fascinating stuff.   :thumbsup:

-Alex (Tarkus)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on January 26, 2009, 07:38:14 PM
That kind of work and commitment is what differences a MD from an excellent MD. Yours is surely a SC4 masterpiece, and I wish the best for it.

The update is very good, but I prefer the ones with ingame pics... Yet I enjoyed reading all the names of your streets... Maybe I'll try it over here in Nova Terra xD

It took a long while and a lot of work to put together! Here's a few samples of the process:
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2019/19003.jpg)

That is impressive... but yet I think I can win you in that department... I'll post some photos of my SC4 notebook sometime...

Alan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 29, 2009, 05:48:32 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Alfred.Jones: Hello, my friend, and welcome! And your first post is quite the smash! Excellent work! And don't worry about lurking either, it's OK! Hope to see you around more often!

bat: Thank you, my friend!

projectadam: Good answer, we'll see if it's correct!

David (dedgren): Wow, thank so much for that great compliment, David! I'm glad I can return the favor on the map-staring, since I've spent countless hours gazing at the many 3RR maps over the past few years!

Joan (Jmouse:): Hi, Joan! Meager attempt? I don't think so, my friend—I'd say a magnificent attempt if I've ever seen one! I'm glad you enjoyed the map, too, and at the rate I go through legal pads, I might have to take you up on your offer! Thanks for coming by, Joan!

deathtopumpkins: Thanks so much! I'm glad you like the map!

Robin (rooker1): Thanks, Robin! The map came out much better than I thought it would, too, going into it. It was a lot of fun to put together, actually! Take care, my friend!

Alex (Tarkus): Hey, Alex! Thank you, my friend! I was trying to come up with some kind of naming system for a while and couldn't come up with anything, then the alphabetical one just popped into my head when I was looking at a map of Washington, DC. As for Duke of Gloucester Street, I actually stole borrowed that, and Botetourt Street from Williamsburg, Virginia. I found a tourist map from when I was there a few years ago and the rest is history! Thanks for coming by and for your wonderful comments, my friend!

Alan (alan_vzla): Hi, my friend! Thank you so much for your very kind words! And I would certainly be interested in seeing your SC4 notebook, too! Take care!



Well, our good friend Alfred.Jones did a number on the Street Name Game, getting every one correct!

Quote
1. Aroostook Street - Aroostook, New Brunswick
2. Grand Banks Avenue - Grand Banks of Newfoundland Plateaus
3. Presque Isle Avenue - Presque Isle, Maine
4. Shawinigan Avenue - Shawinigan, Quebec
5. Acadia Avenue - Acadia National Park, Maine
6. Bathurst Avenue - Bathurst, New Brunswick
7. Passamaquoddy Avenue - The Native American people who live in Maine and New Brunswick
8. Châteauguay Avenue - Châteauguay, Quebec
9. Kittery Avenue - Kittery, Maine
10. Find the common bond: Daigneault Avenue, Desjardins Street, Muller Avenue - I'm guessing this has something to do with retired Canadian Ice Hockey players J. J. Daigneault, Martin Desjardins and Kirk Muller?

The only slight differences in what I was thinking was Aroostook County, Maine, rather than Aroostook, New Brunswick for #1, and Eric Desjardins instead of Martin Desjardins for #10. Excellent work, Alfred.Jones!

And for the bonus, our good friend projectadam struck home with what I was thinking—the Acadie-Bathurst Titan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acadie-Bathurst_Titan) of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League!

Thank you all so much for playing! I hope you had fun!

Now, on to what I've been working on lately...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/027.jpg)

It's a low income neighboorhood in southwest Marathon, down around Lowe Street. Perhaps we'll be exploring this area in finer detail? We'll see!

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on January 29, 2009, 06:05:35 PM
Nice work Dustin. I think that's one of the most realistic Chicago-type (for lack of a better word... El Rail over street always makes me think of it) I've seen. The BAT selection is great, and everything just fits. Not sure what you secret is for it, but it's working.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Haljackey on January 29, 2009, 06:16:47 PM
Wow awesome job with that teaser pic Dustin!  The el-rail over road looks excellent, and you've definitely created a low-income scene.  Nice photoshopping effects too, its interested to see SC4 on an angle we don't see in-game!

Best,
-Haljackey
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metasmurf on January 29, 2009, 06:36:53 PM
God job on the rowhouse development. I've never been to the states but if I would imagine parts of new york some of them would definetly look like that pic.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on January 30, 2009, 06:23:30 AM
Dustin,

 Great picture.  I really jope we can see more of this area.  Especially, more of the el rail and how it goes through the city and maybe even where it ends and begins.  ;)
 Congrats to AJ on your little contest.  &apls

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on January 30, 2009, 07:54:35 AM
You certainly have a way with urban areas, Dustin.  I don't see the El-rail over Road used very often in MDs, but it fits quite nicely here.  I must say that it is interesting to see your planning notes, and it seems like you have a talent in that department as well.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on January 31, 2009, 03:33:24 AM
Welcome to page 33!

Great new picture there! That's a nice part of your city! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sciurus on January 31, 2009, 06:16:16 AM
It's just beautiful, and you do your transport map on paper, and then, you do this on SC4?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on January 31, 2009, 10:42:08 AM
This is a fantastic picture there Dustin ! &apls
great work with these row house my friend. :thumbsup: I like the EL-line in the middle  ;)

Arthur.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: warconstruct on January 31, 2009, 11:39:09 AM
Splendid picture ! I like the EL-line in the middle  !
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on January 31, 2009, 12:26:09 PM
I see that you are putting marcszar's residential buildings to good use  :thumbsup:

The el-rail over road pieces are rarely used, so it is quite refreshing to see them here in Marathon. I hope you show more of this area; it looks great!

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on January 31, 2009, 11:40:22 PM
Dustin, you're using elements that are outside my visual experience - like the el-rail - so Marathon is turning into a marathon educational experience! As for the low-income housing, it exists in every city, town and settlement known to man, but you do a good job of presenting it.

Congratulations to A.J. for acing the quiz! :thumbsup: There are a million ways to name quads, and yours is very interesting.

Later...

Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Tarkus on February 02, 2009, 08:20:27 PM
Dustin, another great pic there--looks like a very realistic inner-city East Coast neighborhood.  You've got an amazing eye for this stuff, and it's always a treat to see what's going on in Marathon.

-Alex (Tarkus)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 03, 2009, 11:18:27 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Matt (threestooges): Hi, Matt! Thanks a lot, my friend! There's no secret, either, I'm just plopping and bulldozing until I get something that looks OK to me. Thanks for coming by!

Haljackey: Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

metasmurf: Thanks! There's parts of just about every major city here in the northeastern United States. In fact the BATs, by marcszar are based on Baltimore, Maryland, and Troy, New York, I believe, so that explains it! Thanks for stopping in!

Robin (rooker1): Hey, Robin! We'll certainly be looking into this area in more detail, as well as the elevated rail line in the midst. It's always great to see you here, my friend!

metarvo: Thank you so much, my friend!

bat: Thanks, bat!

Sciurus: Thank you! As for the transport map, it's a little bit of both. I'll get some rough ideas on paper beforehand, but I've learned you never know what's going to work until you get into the game. Take care!

Arthur (art128): Thank you, Arthur!

warconstruct: Merci beaucoup!

Dan (dsrwhat316): Thanks, Dan! I've seen the pieces used other places and have always wanted to put them to use. I'm glad I found a good spot for them!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! I'm glad you able to provide some insight as to some of the area up here in the gritty northeast, and I glad you're enjoying it! Thanks, as always, for your continued support, my friend!

Alex (Tarkus): Thank you, Alex! The area was actually inspired by the neighborhood in Philadelphia were Rocky Balboa lived in Rocky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky). Now if I could find the pet shop where Adrian worked! Thanks for coming by, my friend!



I'm still plugging away at different areas of Marathon, but I still had some time to work on this!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/028.jpg)

Many thanks to Robin (rooker1), whose keen eye helped with some color and style issues!

Not sure where we'll head next. You'll know as soon as I do!

In a bit!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Alfred.Jones on February 04, 2009, 12:45:48 AM
That looks excellent Dustin!! Looks like a real newspaper &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 04, 2009, 06:41:47 AM
What a nice newspaper there Dustin !  &apls$
Great work on it !!  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on February 04, 2009, 07:30:22 AM
Dustin,
Great work on the newspaper article.
"CCM Centre"....good work on the PSing.  You are becoming a Pro!

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sciurus on February 04, 2009, 08:27:19 AM
Great, and I really like your daily, wich is really good realized!
Congratulations Robin and Thundercrack &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 04, 2009, 08:40:03 AM
Nice newspaper, Dustin! One of the best I've ever seen done!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 04, 2009, 12:15:09 PM
Wonderful work there on that newspaper! Nice articles with nice photos! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: MandelSoft on February 04, 2009, 12:20:00 PM
Nice newspaper! Looks realistic to me.

Best,
Maarten
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [02/06/09]: UPDATE XX: A Complex From a Complex...
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 06, 2009, 02:58:36 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Alfred.Jones: Thank you so much, my friend!

Arthur (art128): Thanks, Arthur!

Robin (rooker1): Hey, Robin! Thanks for your help with the newspaper, too! It's much more newspaper-like that magazine now, thanks to you, my friend! Take care!

Sciurus: Thanks so much!

deathtpumpkins: Thank you! I'm glad you like it!

bat: Thanks, bat! Very much appreciated, my friend!

Maarten (mrtnrln): Thank you so much, Maarten!





UPDATE XX
A Complex From a Complex
Part I: Envisioning and Delving

6 February 2009

Well, it's probably no secret, but in addition to being a big fan of cities, I'm also a fairly large sports fan. And what is the perfect melding of two of my primary interests...?

Sports complexes!

My favorite thing to do when I go to a new city is to check out the sports venues—baseball stadiums, football stadiums, basketball and hockey arenas, any and all of them. After thinking about all the different venues I've been to and thinking about how and where cities situate these facilities, since their not small by any means, I thought I would take a look at how this would be applied in Marathon.

But first, I'd a bit of examination and investigation. I like the idea of a sports complex—an area where all the sports venues are located together. For example...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20001.jpg)

...this is the sports complex in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. As you can see, both the baseball and football stadiums, as well as the basketball/hockey arena (Wachovia Center) and the former arena (the Spectrum) are all together in one big complex in South Philadelphia.

However, one issue that I've always had with this area is the fact that it is not all that convenient to get to from Central Philadelphia...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20002.jpg)

...as we've illustrated.

Another prime example is my favorite sports complex in the world—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20003.jpg)

The Meadowlands Sports Complex in East Rutherford, New Jersey! While being in the Garden State, the Meadowlands is home to both New York City NFL teams, the Giants and the Jets. However...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20004.jpg)

...at a distance of six miles, it is even further from Manhattan than the Philadelphia Sports Complex is from Central Philadelphia. And this is before you factor in time for traffic.

So, I would like to meld the idea of a sports complex with the idea of keeping the venues within the city and more accessible to alternative forms of transportation. A good example is...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20005.jpg)

...Baltimore, Maryland, where both the baseball and the football stadiums are in close proximity not only to each other...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20006.jpg)

...but also to Downtown Baltimore.

Another non-sports venue related idea I thought of to incorporate are the wharves of Boston, Massachusetts (an idea that will be implemented much more in Marathon, I can imagine)—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20007.jpg)

The concept of a sports complex jutting into the water on a wharf popped into my head, and so I thought, why not run with it?

First step, pick a spot...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20008.jpg)

I've chosen Tile O, more specifically at the eastern end of Châteauguay Avenue.

Now, we begin construction of our wharf, or as they will be known in Marathon, our quay...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20009.jpg)

Using a road...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20010.jpg)

...we mark off where the avenue ran (since the the avenue is two-tiles and the road only one, I just chose on of them arbitrarily), and then...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20011.jpg)

...start terraforming!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20012.jpg)

One tile at a time, we trace the edge to meet up with the rest of the island circumference...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20013.jpg)

...and we have our finished quay!

But that's probably not big enough for a complex! So...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20014.jpg)

...we tack on another section...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2020/20015.jpg)

...and do some terraforming clean-up.

The terraformed quay is where we'll stop for now, but next time we'll look at adding more to the area.

Thanks for coming by!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on February 06, 2009, 04:15:24 AM
Nice start on the complex Dustin. I'm curious why the different levels for the different areas, but I'm sure it'll become clear soon enough. Perhaps one for parking and one for the arenas, or different fields on different levels? Will there be a mass transit station available as well? it'd be a good way to get people to the games as well as relieve congestion on the surrounding streets, especially after the games. Any idea yet which teams will represent Marathon yet?
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: sebes on February 06, 2009, 05:12:16 AM
He Dustin - interesting concept! I like the idea of having the sports venues on a wharf/quay in the downtown area.  I think however that it would be a waste of precious reclaimed land to fill it with parkings... a giant parking garage seems more realistic in that case! And indeed a large mass-transit connection. Wow- what a concept!  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JoeST on February 06, 2009, 05:22:05 AM
Im feeling pretty ashamed of myself.... *hangs head*

this place is pretty gawd dang awesome, where were you hiding? :D

cant wait for more

Joe
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on February 06, 2009, 06:49:09 AM
Hey Dustin,

 Great start on Sports Complex.  Love the RL pics as well, but lets see how you put them to use compared to what you are building in game.  I'm looking forward to the end results of this area and I'll have some more stuff ready for you tonight.

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on February 06, 2009, 07:17:27 AM
Having a sports complex is a great idea, Dustin.  One can only wonder what kind of teams Marathon will have, though.  Will they be good teams, or will they leave something to be desired?  $%Grinno$%  I'm looking forward to seeing that quay when you're finished with it.

 &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Ennedi on February 06, 2009, 07:51:04 AM
An idea of making a sport complex on the wharf is excellent! :thumbsup: I am very curious how will you perform it.

It was a while when I visited you last time, so I must say that your map is fantastic!  &apls I also like very much your explanations, much to learn form them  :thumbsup:

Adam
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 06, 2009, 09:29:22 AM
Wow, that's a neat idea! I love doing land reclamation projects in my cities, similar to your quay, so of course this is an interest to me. And I cannot wait to see how you finish it!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 06, 2009, 09:54:12 AM
Looking forward to (more of) the sport complex and nice update... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 06, 2009, 10:01:24 AM
Wow ! excellent terraforming Dustin, it promises to be a fantastic complex!  &apls
I agree that the Meadowlands Sports Complex is beautiful. ;)
Can't wait to see more with the sports equipment. :thumbsup:

Arthur.  ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Alfred.Jones on February 06, 2009, 09:19:57 PM
Great idea Dustin! I too am a big sports fan and I can't wait to see the complex once it is finished!

Awesome work on the terraforming so far,

Keep it up!

AJ :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on February 08, 2009, 12:36:08 AM
Hi Dustin!

I've been a little lax in my responses lately, but I have been lurking when I get the chance.  You've been doing so many different things here, I hardly know where to begin.  Your maps turned out very well and your notepad looks very similar to mine!  (I actually have two legal pads on my desk... one for Covington and one for BATting... both are a scribbled mess of notes, numbers, sketches, etc... :D )  The newspaper looks great and I'm really interested in your latest venture!  I also enjoy a good stadium complex (Ford Field and Comerica Park in Detroit are a nice downtown pairing) and your idea to put them on a pier looks most promising.  Like Matt, I'm also itching to see how the different levels will come into play.

See you then!
JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 08, 2009, 12:48:33 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Matt (threestooges): Hi, Matt! I'm glad you like the sports complex, so far! The different levels was a way of breaking things up a bit. As for the mass transit, I plan to have some kind of hub around the area, since it would be a high-traffic area on game and event days. As for the teams in Marathon? That may be an update down the line, perhaps! I'll have to give it some thought!

sebes: Hi, my friend! You are definitely correct, there will not be many different parking lots as per the norm with sports complexes. Since it's in a downtown urban area, it will have parking garages and perhaps a few smaller lots further away from the facilities to serve both event traffic and normal day-to-day city traffic. Thanks for coming by!

Joe (JoeST): Hi, Joe! Welcome to Marathon! Thanks so much, my friend!

Robin (rooker1): Hello, there, Robin! Actually, the real life pictures were meant to illustrate what I'm trying to avoid doing in Marathon, at least the Philadelphia and Meadowlands ones anyway! The Baltimore stadiums are closer to what I'm going for, though! I hope I can get it all figured out, but with your help, I'm sure we'll get there! It's gotten me this far! Thanks again, and we'll see you back soon!

metarvo: Thanks so much! As I said to Matt (threestooges), I have to do some thinking on the sports teams of Marathon once the venues are in place! As for how good or bad they are, well, that's always up for grabs!

Adam (Ennedi): Hi, Adam! So glad to see you here again, my friend! I'm glad you're enjoying the maps and the latest update! Hope to see you here again!

deathtopumpkins: Thanks, my friend! I'm with you on land reclamation. As I said in the update, I think this will be the first in many quays in the city, all different sizes, to give it that "on the water" feel that Boston has, and even Philadelphia has on the Delaware River. Thanks for coming y!

bat: Thank you, bat! I'm glad you enjoyed it, my friend!

Arthur (art128): Thanks, Arthur!

Alfred.Jones: Hey, there! It's always great to hear from another sports fan! I'm glad you like the complex area so far. I hope to see you back again soon!

Jon (JBSimio): Hi, Jon! First let me say...HAPPY BIRTHDAY! It's after midnight here in Pennsylvania, so I had to do it! I'm glad you're finding things to your liking here lately. I'm a big fan of Ford Field and Comerica, too—though, I have to admit, I've always had a very soft spot in my heart for the Pontiac Silverdome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Silverdome), ever since I was a kid and watch Hulk Hogan bodyslam Andre the Giant at WrestleMania III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WrestleMania_III). That was a big moment in my life as a six-year-old in 1987! Thanks for sopping in, and I hope your birthday is a blast, my friend!



I'm still working and planning, planning and working on our sports complex, so in the meantime, I thought we could venture back to southwestern Marathon, and our Rocky-inspired neighborhood...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/029.jpg)

As the picture shows, there's a new section of highway—the Docklands Extension—that's been added since our last map edition, as well as where the elevated rail heads back underground before leaving the island. Of course, there's also some more low-income housing in there, too. Somewhere, a no-name boxer is training for a fight against Apollo Creed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Creed)!

Back to the sports complex grindstone!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 08, 2009, 02:41:45 AM
Ooh... nice R$ housing... and I like that bridge abutment!

Very nice and dirty!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 08, 2009, 05:02:16 AM
That's a really great picture there, nice work on it! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Nexis4Jersey on February 08, 2009, 10:15:28 AM
Wow that Highway Setup is giving me ideas  :thumbsup: ::)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pikatchoum on February 08, 2009, 01:19:24 PM
Very nice and interesting pics. I like the way you show all the steps of the city building. It's very hypnotizing IMO. I especially liked the tutorial you've made some pages ago about how making a "real-like" transportation map. It was very well explainded, I must do one now ! Thanks and keep it up.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on February 08, 2009, 08:31:49 PM
Hey Dustin looking great in here!!! The last pic here is just awe dropping wicked!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 10, 2009, 12:08:43 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

deathtopumpkins: Thanks! The dirty look was what I was going for. I'm glad I've achieved it! I'm happy you like the bridge, too!

bat: Thanks so much, my friend!

Corey (Nexis): Thanks, Corey! I can't wait to see your ideas!

Pikatchoum: Hello! Welcome to Marathon! I'm so happy that you're enjoying things here and that you've found some of the tutorials informative. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask me, and I hope to see you back, my friend!

Pat: Hey, Pat! It's great to see you! Thanks for stopping by!



Well, the work on the quay is still underway. Always planning and re-planning, and trying to put the plans into action!

I thought I'd put together something to illustrate the current plan:

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/030.jpg)

The red "Plaza Areas" sections will be large open areas various stuff around. The one on the upper section of the quay where the arena will be located will stretch up to the diagonal avenue that's been bulldozed in the picture, surrounding and including the subway station.

For now, it's back to the old drawing board!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on February 10, 2009, 12:24:20 AM
Hey Dustin its always great to see what you are cooking up here in Commonwealth!!! So you are planning for a big area there and I cant wait to see the plans in action!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on February 10, 2009, 02:10:34 AM
I like what I'm seeing so far, but there is one thing I don't see: parking. I'm sure you have it planned for, but I'm curious to see where it'll go, and what form it will take (lot, garage, above ground, below ground (wouldn't expect that what with the water but the island is elevated a bit after all)). Nice plan though and I'll look forward to seeing the first bits of development.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on February 10, 2009, 06:32:25 AM
Hey Dustin,
 Very interesting setup.  I, too can't wait to see what goes in these area.  ;)

Robin  :P
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Ennedi on February 10, 2009, 08:34:26 AM
Hello Dustin,

The bridge head (Docklands Extension) looks very good! Marrast waterfront pieces and Japan walls along highway harmonize very well. Great picture! :thumbsup:
I also like your sports area setup. I suppose you will provide a parking here (as Matt said), but I have another question: I'm curious how will you lead a road to the Stadium Area?

Adam
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 10, 2009, 08:39:33 AM
Dustin, this plan looks promised my friend ! &apls
Can't wait to see the development of the docks.

Arthur. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 10, 2009, 02:35:49 PM
That plan looks great so far, but I think you forgot one thing! Parking!  :P
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on February 10, 2009, 04:19:19 PM
Interesting plan for the sports complex, Dustin, but I have to second - or third_ the question of parking. I'm anxious to see how you deal with this issue considering a man takes his car to a sporting venue more often than he takes his wife! $%Grinno$%

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Nexis4Jersey on February 10, 2009, 07:37:35 PM
Nice idea for the Complex , i'll be waiting for the awesome results  :thumbsup: ::)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [02/10/09: UPDATE XXI: A Complex from a Complex...
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 10, 2009, 09:38:47 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Pat: Thanks, my friend!

Matt (threestooges): Hey, Matt! I'm glad you like the set up! As for parking, well...we'll see what we can come up with! Thanks for coming by!

Robin (rooker1): Thanks, Robin! Though, something tells me you have a "bit" of an idea as to what's going to be going on, my friend!

Adam (Ennedi): Hi, Adam! Thank you so much, my friend! And actually, your question about access is something that I haven't thought of! Thanks for bringing it up! Hope to see you back again soon!

Arthur (art128): Thanks, Arthur!

deathtopumpkins: Thanks! And don't worry, I didn't forget! Just forgot to mention it!

Joan (Jmouse): Hello, there, Joan! I can't believe I completely forgot to mention my parking plans! But, we'll rectify that mistake posthaste! Thanks for stopping by!

Corey (Nexis): Hey, Corey! Thanks a lot, my friend!




UPDATE XXI
A Complex From a Complex
Part II: The Perils of Parking and Access (And an Aside...)

10 February 2009

OK! Several of you have asked the question, "Where will people heading to the sports complex park?" So, in honor of one the second birthday of my good friend's daughter, and the 46th birthday of my favorite baseball player of all-time, former Philadelphia Phillies centerfielder Lenny Dykstra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Dykstra), we'll attempt to answer this question.

First, let me say that I have planned for parking, however I should have explained it up front. But instead of an up-front "here's how parking will work" statement, I've decided to handle it with an update! I apologize for my oversight with this from the beginning, and I am so glad that you all brought it up!

While the sports complexes in Philadelphia and the Meadowlands in New Jersey that I used as examples in our last update have huge sprawling parking lots, that type of set-up will not work in the downtown urban environment that this quay is in. So, to illustrate my inspiration for parking, where better to go than New York City, and the "Mecca" of all sporting venues, Madison Square Garden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Square_Garden)—site of prizefights, concerts, Stanley Cup hockey games, NBA Championship games, and the inaugural WrestleMania, too!

Located right in the middle of Manhattan...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2021/21001.jpg)

...the Garden is not really in a position to be best equipped for parking.

According to the venue's official website (http://www.thegarden.com/about/directions-parking.html), there are nine indoor and outdoor parking facilities in proximity to the arena...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2021/21002.jpg)

1. West 34th Street between 8th and 9th Avenues
2. West 33rd Street between 8th and 9th Avenues
3. West 31st Street between 6th and 7th Avenues
4. West 31st Street between 7th and 8th Avenues
5. West 31st Street between 8th and 9th Avenues
6. West 31st Street between 6th and 7th Avenues
7. West 35th Street between 5th and 6th Avenues
8. West 33rd Street between 7th and 8th Avenues
9. West 31st Street between 8th and 9th Avenues

In addition, connected to Madison Square Garden is Pennsylvania Station (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Station_(New_York_City)), a major railway hub in New York, providing rail transportation, as well as four subway stations (marked on the map with blue "M's").

As it shows, because of its location, the Garden is situated in a prime location for mass transit systems more than car traffic. In keeping with this theme, parking for the sports complex will be housed off of the quay itself, and overall traffic funneled more towards mass transit.

Here's an overview—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2021/21003.jpg)

To accommodate traffic...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2021/21004.jpg)

parking facilities (P) will be placed in various places, in concert with metro stations (M). Also, left-center is the Châteauguay Station to handle rail traffic not only for the sports complex, but for southern Marathon Island as a whole.

Of course, the placement of parking lots and garages is not static and will be dependent on where city development allows. The areas shown on the map are rough estimates.

A contingency that I did not plan for, however, was vehicle access to the stadium on the bottom end of the "L" quay section, brought up by our good friend Adam (Ennedi). It is a reality that different types of vehicles—emergency vehicles, vehicles for different events, etc.—will need to reach the stadium for a myriad of reasons. Since the entire area will be primarily pedestrian plazas the vehicles could conceivably use the open-area plaza areas to negotiate the top of the quay. Where the problem lies is...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2021/21005.jpg)

here—where the elevation differences meet. So, my solution!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2021/21006.jpg)

We start by leveling one tile out onto the lower end by plopping single road tiles...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2021/21007.jpg)

...then we use roads to make gentle slopes on both sides to accommodate the vehicle traffic.

Here's the finished product with the grid on to see the elevation change:

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2021/21008.jpg)

How the slopes will be handled in reference to the upper and lower sections...well, that's the next step! Robin, are you thinking about this one...?

Finally, we come to the "Aside" section of our title, completely unrelated to the quay and the sports complex.

I was playing around with the Gobal Telecom Building by bixel...

 (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=18348)
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2021/21009.jpg)

...and then things just got ridiculous!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2021/21010.jpg)

And actually, I kind of like it! Here's the other angles:

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2021/21011.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2021/21012.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2021/21013.jpg)

Of course, there's the repetition of the rooves to contend with, but I like the idea of having that triangular section as one big building. Not sure if I'll keep this concept or not, but it's definitely something to think about. What do you guys think?

For now, it's back to the complex. Of course, if anyonehas any suggestions on the parking or access situations, please don't hesitate to let me know! I'm open to everything!

In a bit!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: projectadam on February 10, 2009, 10:09:45 PM
Since you are posting rather early tonight and not your 1 - 3 am posts that I usually catch in the late night hours, I thought this was a good time to post a reply. Interested to see how the complexes turn out and believe that road access would be a must. Like you said, the emergency vehicles could drive on the open paved areas but I am sure your all-star athletes would prefer to park directly at the stadiums and when Mayor Dustin roles in to catch an event, surely his limo can pull up at the front door :D

The mass triangle building reminds me of a building for bureaucracy. I think it works but it might be neat to have some of the European W2W themed buildings to culture the place up. Either way, I am sure you will pull something great off.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on February 10, 2009, 10:12:27 PM
Your planning skills are wonderful, this area will surely end great!
As for the building... I'll suggest another diagonal one.... It's just that I didn't like how the bunch of buildings look together, maybe you could use something parisian style... Again i'ts only me, you do what you want

Awesome update (as always)
Alan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on February 11, 2009, 12:52:12 AM
Well that makes perfect sense Dustin. I figured the transit hub would certainly play a role in getting people there too. It may be a bit of a walk from some of the lots (more of an incentive to take the train) but from the looks of things, it'll certainly be a scenic stroll. Nice update, and the comparison with Madison Square Garden really helped.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 11, 2009, 12:58:24 AM
Wow. it's an huge use of this building there Dustin !
I never know that that building could looks great used by 21 time wall by wall... but your result is truly great my friend. &apls

Arthur. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on February 11, 2009, 03:25:21 AM
Hey there Dustin about the parking situation what about having a sorta combo lot with above ground parking lot with garages and then underground entrances and exit too of course...

Here is a rough thought using paint

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5903/parkingoptionideapx6.jpg)

Also I like the reuse of the Global Telcom like you did it there!!! It would be nice to see a flat roof on that but hey it still works in my honest opion...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 11, 2009, 07:36:47 AM
Nice work and plan on that area there! Looking forward to more of it... ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sciurus on February 11, 2009, 09:05:30 AM
Good work, but I don't like the accumulation of bats in the 6th pic ()sad()
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sheep49 on February 11, 2009, 10:45:35 AM
Hmm, it's been a while since I have commented here, hasn't it? Well, from what I've seen, I have missed so much fun and awesome planning. I think I'm gonna cry :'( ;)

But back to the thread - the last update. It was great, awesome, outstanding! I'm pretty jealous of your ability to convert the real life ideas to SC4. It makes your city so realistic, I mean... Just one big WOW.

In addition, I love the choice of the railway station. It will be very fitting for the rest of development (Judging by the previous updates, of course ;)) And I just love how you play with Bixel's Global Telecom building! It looks so fun to do, and it's so inspirating. I'm extremely anxious to see what will you do with that w2w.

To sum up, update is great, I can't wait for more. Keep up the good work :thumbsup:
Piotr
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on February 11, 2009, 11:31:19 AM
It's great to see that you are paying attention to every detail as usual, Dustin.  Up until now, I usually just built a stadium without considering the parking.  Other than the in-game Park and Ride, Maxis didn't include many parking options in the default game.  Now, so many good parking options have been released, making realistic parking facilities possible.  I look forward to seeing your parking system completed.  Good work, Dustin!

 &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on February 11, 2009, 06:59:17 PM
Watching this whole complex develop - including the parking facilities - is very interesting. Your sense of pre-planning is better than most.

In addition to the obvious, a large sports complex suggests a need for luxury hotels, haute cuisine and various not-sporting nightlife such as live theatre, etc. If The new Cowboy's Stadium in Dallas is any indication, there's a plethora of well-heeled fans ready to part with fistfuls of cash - it's just a matter of being there to take it. It will be fascinating to see how all this shapes up over time.

Marathon has been a pleasure to follow and continues to astound and delight...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JBSimio on February 12, 2009, 12:11:43 AM
Hi Dustin,

You're obviously putting a lot of thought and planning into this sports complex.  I'm really excited to see how it all comes out, but at the same time, I appreciate the level of realism you're trying to emulate.  I'm sure all the attention to detail will make this a stunning area when finished.  I like the idea with the Global Telecom Building, but I have to admit that the repeating roof sections kind of ruin it for me.  It would be nice if there was a way to cover that up somehow.  Hmm... I just gave myself an idea... I'll PM you about it shortly.

See you next time, my friend!
JB
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 12, 2009, 03:08:15 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

projectadam: Hi, there! It's just after 4:00 in the morning here, now, so I think I'm back on schedule! I'm glad you enjoy the complex so far, and I hope you like it even more once it's finished...though, I'm not quite sure how long that's going to take! Thanks for coming by!

Alan (alan_vzla): Thank you, Alan! The diagonal building thing was just playing around for fun. I stumbled upon it and decided to share. I will definitely be looking into the Parisian buildings that you've suggested, though perhaps for a different area of the city. Take care!

Matt (threestooges): Hi, Matt! I'm glad it makes more sense now. I wish I would have thought to include the parking setup in the original introduction of all of this. But, hey! The silver lining is that I got to do an update out of it! Thanks, of course, to you and everyone else who pointed out the parking situation! Thanks again and take care, my friend!

Arthur (art128): Thanks, Arthur! See what happens when you start messing around with stuff! Though, sometimes, you do break something. Thanks for coming by!

Pat: Hey, my friend! That's a wonderful idea you've got there for the parking set-up! I think I'll be looking into putting it to good use. Thanks again!

bat: Thank you, bat!

Sciurus: Thanks! Though, as I said, the big diagonal building was more for a joke than a serious idea. Thanks for coming by!

Piotr (Sheep49): Hi, Piotr—long time, no see, my friend! Thank you so much for all your wonderful comments, I am so glad that you are finding things here inspiring! Hope to see you around again soon!

metarvo: Hello! I used to do the same thing with stadiums—just plop'em down and not even think twice about anything that goes along with it. When I started to really examine how they're set up in real life, I realized that if a city put a stadium how I did, there would be big problems! You're right, too, about all the great parking options available now. Where would we be with out all this great stuff? Thanks for your kind words, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): Hey, there, Joan! Great idea with the variety of amenities in the area. Once again, another thing about this project that I hadn't thought of! Now that you mention it, though, in every city I've been to, there is always bars, restaurants, hotels, etc., around the venues. So, of course, Marathon will have the same! Oh, and when I was in Texas last spring, we went to a Texas Rangers game, so I was able to see the new Cowboys Stadium, too. It's going to be quite a monster! Thanks for dropping in, Joan!

Jon (JBSimio): Thank you so much, Jon! For as much work as the sports complex has been so far (and has yet to go), it has been a lot of fun planning and working to get it all to come together. As for the Telecom Building, I'm with you on the roof situation—I wish there was a way to cover it up somehow, too...I look forward to hearing from you, my friend! Take care!



Still in sports complex mode! Remember this...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2021/21007.jpg)

...our rather hastily-strewn-together answer to the stadium access conundrum? Well...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/031.jpg)

...scratch that! Here's a much easier solution—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/032.jpg)

We eliminate any need for vehicles to need access to the top section in order to reach the bottom one. Of course, a simple street isn't going to cut it in there, though, is it? No, we've a solution in mind that should be more æstethically pleasing.

Back to work!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JoeST on February 12, 2009, 03:58:49 AM
I agree, that is a much nicer way of doing it, maybe SAM?

Joe
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Alfred.Jones on February 12, 2009, 04:19:46 AM
Can't wait for more Dustin!

The suspense is killing me :D
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 12, 2009, 05:38:39 AM
You've done the great choice there Dutsin !
Can't wait to see what stadium you place here,

Arthur.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sciurus on February 12, 2009, 05:40:53 AM
Nice, and ok for the BATs, I thought it was final! :D

Guillaume :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on February 12, 2009, 05:59:34 AM
 &apls  Much better.  ;) How do you come up with all these great ideas?  ::)
BTW.... Gobal Telecom Building by bixel... ::) Funny idea, but I think everyone has tried it at one time or another.  I am interested in Jon's idea.
Anyways, see ya later,
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 12, 2009, 07:24:50 AM
Looks better now!
But again looking forward to more of that area! ;)


Btw, Congrats on 700 replies in your MD...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 12, 2009, 07:37:34 PM
Heheh, leave it to you Dustin to design something elaborate for a simple problem such as this!  :D Can't wait to see what you do with the street!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on February 12, 2009, 10:56:18 PM
It will be interesting to see how this complex turns out - it's already growing by leaps and bounds with scarcely a structure placed yet! :D

My first reaction to the last photo
wasn't aesthetics, it was the sight of too many intersections too close together. That's going to be a busy place during an event, so successful mobility could be tricky to achieve. This makes me even more anxious to see the plan you haven't unveiled yet.

Later...

Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: sebes on February 13, 2009, 09:04:10 AM
Excellent choice Dustin - and a great idea  &idea

Looking forward to see how you will finish the mobility aspect of the complex!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: CasperVg on February 13, 2009, 12:43:05 PM
Hello again,

I'm just checking in to one of my favourite Mayor Diaries, since it's been ages since I last visited and posted a message. Tho I'm used to writing somewhat large messages here, I am desperately in need of time, and thus I will keep this one plain and simple.

Splendid.

I wish you all the best, Dustin! I hope I'll be able to check in later on, and have more time for a more thorough message.  :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Nexis4Jersey on February 14, 2009, 01:38:57 AM
oh no , the Global Telecom Building is taking over the entire city, lol  :-\
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 15, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Joe (JoeST): Thanks, Joe! The SAM is definitely an option we'll be looking into!

Alfred.Jones: Hey, my friend! The suspense is killing me, too, actually—but don't fret, any and all progress will be documented here! As soon as I know, you'll know!

Arthur (art128): Thank you, Arthur!

Guillaume (Sciurus): Thanks, my friend!

Robin (rooker1): Hey, Robin! Thank you! How do I come up with these ideas? Well, as Joe Cocker sang in the opening of The Wonder Yearswith a little help from my friends (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/With_a_Little_Help_from_My_Friends#Joe_Cocker_version)! As for Jon's idea, I'm very interested to see what he comes up with, too! Take care!

bat: Danke!

deathtopumpkins: You're very correct! It looks like I forgot Occam's Razor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_Razor#Variations) there for a moment! Thanks for coming by!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! Your point about the intersections is definitely a good one, I hadn't thought of that! Though, the way I envision the area come gametime or event-time, most people would be coming to the area via mass transit, so traffic wouldn't be as heavy as one would think. Maybe Marathon would even go so far as Pittsburgh does when there are Pirates games at PNC Park, shutting down the Roberto Clemente Bridge and Federal Street (http://maps.google.com/maps?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=Pittsburgh,+PA&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=ZdCXSdvYE6KBtwfGicSwCw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=title) to accommodate those going to the games. There's definitely going to be tie-ups in the area, though, no doubt about it! Thanks, as always, for your input and support, my friend!

sebes: Thank you so much! Hopefully, we'll have more development soon!

Casper (caspervg): Hi, Casper! Good to see you again, my friend! Thank you so much for your wonderful comments! Hope all is well with you!

Corey (Nexis): Ha! Not the entire city, just a significant portion!



We've been in sports complex mode for quite some time now, so I thought to myself...What is would be considered the "anti"-sports complex...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/033.jpg)

Perhaps a ball-field in the middle of nowhere?

If you build it...he will come... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_of_Dreams)

Still working and working! Hopefully, there will be more development to show very soon!

In a bit!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sheep49 on February 15, 2009, 02:48:45 AM
Hehe... A field in the middle of nowhere? I see why have you made that 'Field of Dreams' reference. :D

Nice work with that area there! Not your best (If I were you, I would build it even further from the road. That would be a real nowhere! And the trees in this area look a little bit too high IMHO) , but still very good. I'm wondering where does the dirt street go... Perhaps the middle of the field and the house of the farm's owner. ::)

Good work! Can't wait for more ;)
Piotr
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 15, 2009, 03:07:40 AM
That's a nice place for that field! Nice work! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 15, 2009, 05:48:32 AM
it's quite calm to play baseball !
The threes you use looks fantastic in this environment Dustin.  &apls

Arthur.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on February 15, 2009, 06:42:28 AM
Hi Dustin!! :)
I'm so sorry that I missed so wonderful update.
The last updates of your complex (in the last page) are really fine, as well  &apls
The last picture look super :thumbsup:. I'm looking forward to the next update my friend.
Take care,

David
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sciurus on February 15, 2009, 07:23:08 AM
Oh, It must feel so alone ::)
I know, it hasn't feelings! :P I would like spend my day here, it's so calm, I've got the impression to hear bird's songs... it's very peaceful :)

Salut, Guillaume, et j'attends la prochaine update ;)
(Good bye, and I wait the next update)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 15, 2009, 11:41:27 AM
Oh wow... pretty shot, but I can't see why on earth they would build one there?  :P
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on February 15, 2009, 02:53:54 PM
What the hey - why not! Everybody needs a field of dreams. This time I won't even complain about parking - The side of that dirt road will work just fine. :) That photo speaks a thousand words, and every one of them is good.

Later...

Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on February 15, 2009, 02:57:53 PM
Hey Dustin I love that ball diamond there!! Looks so realistic in the setting you placed it!! God picture perfect!!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: nova vesfalo on February 15, 2009, 06:39:37 PM
I feel soo sooo sorry never posting a comment in your MD !!! I means , THIS is a KILLER MD ! love the tutorial !! and can't wait to see how the sport complex will look like !!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Emperor Stormont on February 15, 2009, 08:24:56 PM
Not been here before,  &mmm

I'm very impressed, some fantastic work Dustin, very impressive. I shall seek to stop it more often :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 16, 2009, 03:08:22 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Piotr (Sheep49): Hi, Piotr! Thanks for your great comments! I threw that picture together on a whim, since I thought of the anti-sports complex idea, though if I were to put more thought into it, your suggestions would be at the top of my list! Thanks again, my friend, and I hope to see you back soon!

bat: Thanks so much! It's always great to see you here, my friend!

Arthur (art128): Hi, Arthur! Thank you very much!

David (Simpson): Hi, there! No problem about missing things, it happens sometimes! It's OK! I'm glad you're liking things, too. Thanks for coming by!

Guillaume (Sciurus): You're probably right—poor field out there all by it's lonesome! Who would it talk to, the corn? Thank you so much, my friend, for stopping by! À bientôt, j'espère!

deathtopumpkins: Ha! I don't know, we should probably ask Kevin Costner that question! Thanks for dropping in, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! You're right about the dirt road, fields like these remind me of my little league days! I'm so glad you like it! Take care, Joan!

Pat: Much appreciated, my friend! Much appreciated!

nova vesfalo: Hello! Thank you for stopping in and leaving a comment! It's so wonderful to have you here, my friend! Hope to see you here again!

Emperor Stormont: Hey, another newcomer! Welcome to Marathon! I'm glad you enjoy things here, and I look forward to seeing you again soon!



Messing about in Photoshop this early Monday morning (in the eastern United States, that is!)...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/034.jpg)

Just a nondescript shot of a highway tunnel...Off to the right, though, you can see Marathon's first instance of the Rookery Building (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1950)—another wonderful creation by our good friend and BATter extraordinaire Jon (JBSimio). Yet another outstanding building there, another in a very long line of them!

Oh, and I've stumbled upon a bit of a strange occurrence...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/035.jpg)

Using a splendid tutorial (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=3495.0) by Dan (dsrwhat316)—one of many I might add—I attempted to create some 1x1, non-conforming lots (please disregard the horribly off-centered tree!). The above it what I got for my efforts. I won't lie, I haven't the foggiest idea what happened! If anyone could give some insight on how to rectify it, I would be eternally grateful!

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JoeST on February 16, 2009, 03:26:45 AM
heh, that does seem a bit odd, but I guess that the building is sticking to the slope... and thus is "under" the pavement. good luck

its looking great tho :)

Joe
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on February 16, 2009, 03:28:50 AM
Hey Dustin!  :)
Nice update my friend, the first picture is looking super, as well. I really love the highway  :thumbsup:
The last picture is fine, amazing work on the LE
I'm looking forward to the next update
Take care,

David

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sheep49 on February 16, 2009, 04:32:47 AM
Great picture there, Dustin! The sunken highway area looks very realistic and awesome. And yeah, you're right: Jon's BATs are really great! :)

Also, regarding your problems... To be honest, it's the first time I see something like this in my entire life &mmm If I were you, though, I'd open that lot again and try different options in 'Lot Foundation' here. But that's strange nonethless.

Well, I can't wait to see more! :thumbsup:
Piotr
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sciurus on February 16, 2009, 04:37:22 AM
The photoshopping on the latest image is very good, black and white are two colours (if we can name that coulours :D) which look beautiful &apls &apls

Good bye, bonne chance pour la suite Guillaume :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 16, 2009, 08:29:47 AM
Looks like the building has a foundation AND the lot... though I wouldn't think that would cause any problems...

Nice highway shot... old picture maybe?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on February 16, 2009, 10:04:08 AM
that picture looks great mate, looking forward to more!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 16, 2009, 10:25:36 AM
Nice shot there Dustin !  &apls
As for the strange thing, I think like piotr !  :thumbsup:

Arthur.  ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on February 16, 2009, 10:54:42 AM
 &apls &aplsHey mate another great work that you have done  on the last pic. I really like the layout over the tunnel. very well done. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on February 16, 2009, 02:50:26 PM
Dustin that pic that is by the tunnel is fantastic sir!!! Love the shot with the Rookery!!!! Now far as your problem I think you might have to get ahold of Dan on that one as I have no clue what so ever, sorry...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 16, 2009, 09:28:40 PM
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Joe (JoeST): It's quite odd, isn't it? I've never encountered anything like it before! Thanks for coming by!

David (Simpson): Thanks so much!

Piotr (Sheep49): "Lot Foundation," eh? I think you may be on to something there... Thanks, Piotr!

Guillaume (Sciurus): Thank you, my friend!

deathtopumpkins: Hi, there! It is definitely a strange one, I must say! And I'm glad you the highway, too! Take care!

Alan (alan_vzla): Thank you, Alan!

Arthur (art128): Thank you! And you're right, I think Piotr's onto something!

kimcar: Thank you very much! Hope to see you again soon!

Pat: Hi, my friend! I don't have a clue what caused it either, it's not something I've seen before. Thanks for your help, though!



Thanks to Piotr (Sheep49)...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/036.jpg)

...problem solved!

I thought I selected one in the Lot Foundation, but I guess not! Thanks again, Piotr! I owe you one!

Now to deal with those terribly off-centered trees...oh, and flip the lot, too. We wouldn't want people to wander off the edge and onto the tracks, would we?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 16, 2009, 09:30:05 PM
Glad you got it working Dustin!

And I would add some kind of a fence or something too!  :D
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metasmurf on February 16, 2009, 09:40:49 PM
Hey Dustin. I made some lots some time ago, looking like this

(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6021/sunkenavenuehj2.jpg)

I used these props: http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/details.cfm?id=11773&v=1

There are some similar props in one of the CSX megaprop packs as well (can't remember which one).

Guess it would solve your problems with people jumping out on the tracks :P
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: sithlrd98 on February 16, 2009, 09:48:25 PM
Dustin , I just looked through here  (gonna start from the beginning) ...Great job! Love the tutorials and I see some awesome work!

Jayson
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on February 16, 2009, 11:15:47 PM
Nice lots, Dustin. The trees already add a lot of interest and will look even better with a few minor adjustments. Hope you'll give us a step-by-step on this technique too!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sheep49 on February 17, 2009, 02:13:24 AM
Glad to see that I actually helped ;D Now I can say, those lots are really great! :thumbsup:

Misplaced trees problems, huh? I know what you feel. Most of the time I can't get them to 'work' either... And also I'd like to recommend you the props that metasmurf linked to in his post. They would not only keep people from wandering off the edge, but also will made the lot even more visually impressive ;)

Anyway, can't wait for the next update! :thumbsup:
Piotr
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Simpson on February 17, 2009, 02:36:20 AM
Hi Dustin
Incredible work on these lots, they look super  :thumbsup:. I'm loking forward to the next update my friend
Take care,

David
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 17, 2009, 03:08:42 AM
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deathtopumpkins: Thanks, my friend! And you're right on the fence, too! I don't think it would be up to safety standards without it!

metasmurf: Thank you so much for that link, my friend! I've downloaded them, now it's just a matter of trudging through the texture ID numbers to figure out what's what! Oh, and by the way, the picture you posted—phenomenal! Thanks again!

Jayson (sithlrd98): Welcome to Marathon, Jayson! I'm so happy that you're finding things to your liking here, and I hope to hear from you again! Take care!

Joan (Jmouse): Thanks, Joan! Though, I think the trees need more than just "minor" adjustments...they're way off! I cannot, for the life of me, get them to center on the dirt mounds. When I center them at one angle, I rotate and their completely off again! I simply do not understand! But anyway, thanks for stopping in, my friend!

Piotr (Sheep49): Hi, Piotr! Let me thank you again for solving that problem, and also thank you for your wonderful comments! As for the tree-centering, like I said to Joan, it's really starting to frustrate me! If I don't get it soon, I may be in trouble! Hope to see you again, my friend!

David (Simpson): Thank you so very much, my friend!



We're on the right track I think—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/037.jpg)

I don't care for the walls that I've used right now, though I'm having a bit of a time finding the right ones, since it means opening LE, changing them, closing, opening the game, plopping, closing...well, you get the point! If someone knows an easier way, I would be in your debt!

More to come, folks! Thanks for visiting!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sciurus on February 17, 2009, 03:20:16 AM
I'm happy for you you resolved your problem, and I prefer the first texture than the second ;)

Guillaume.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 17, 2009, 04:34:35 AM
Dustin, Glad you resolved the problem my friend. :thumbsup:
Good luck with these lots !

Ah and where you get these fences ? (and if it's possible they name in the LE)
thanks in advance,

Arthur.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on February 17, 2009, 08:33:34 AM
It seems like you're really starting to get the hang of non-slope conforming lots, Dustin.  The people in Marathon have a nice place to take a walk now, and I'm sure the fence makes it safer for them.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sheep49 on February 17, 2009, 09:03:24 AM
Eh... Looking at your custom lots I'm pretty jelous of the people living in Marathon. That boulevard along the railroads is sure going to be one of the favourite places for Sims to spend time there ;)

And about those misplaced trees... Take your time. Only calmness can save us! :D But seriously, when I'm starting to be irritated by them I just think of all those lotters, who once in a while have similiar problems. Because, as we all now, making custom lots is relatively easy once you lot a lot. (;)) So, cheer up! You're going to get them right sooner or later (preferably sooner, I think...)

Oh, and that whole closing LE, opening SC4 etc. thing, I'm afraid that there's no other way to check those foundation textures in actiion. ()sad() At least no to my knowledge.

Can't wait for next update :thumbsup:
Piotr
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 17, 2009, 01:05:09 PM
That's looking really nice there, Dustin! :thumbsup: Nice work on that railway and the walls....
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on February 17, 2009, 04:51:00 PM
Excellent "comeback," Dustin! And don't forget, you can always plant some trees on the unfenced side that don't have to be centered. ;)

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 17, 2009, 05:31:57 PM
heeheehee... now THAT's a fence!  :D

The lots are looking great, Dustin!  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on February 18, 2009, 01:00:41 AM
Dustin looking real sweet there with those walls!!! Hey btw did you figure out your parking problem yet? If not I did excute that drawing into actual lot form and its about 13x8 in size and based off of this lot here [linkie] (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=21113) on the stex... You can see it in action over in Waterfalls if you want to check it out (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=722.msg223040#msg223040)...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 18, 2009, 04:58:28 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Guillaume (Sciurus): Thank you, my friend! I prefer the first texture, too!

Arthur (art128): Thank you, Arthur! As for the fences, they are part of the Gare du Nord, but I'm not sure of their name exactly off the top of my head. I'll find out and get back to you on it, though!

metarvo: Thank you so much! Now that I know what I'm doing a bit more, things to seem as daunting. Thanks for stopping by!

Piotr (Sheep49): Thank you for your wonderful comments, Piotr! And also for your very helpful advice. I do have a tendency to get irritated rather quickly, but when you put into the perspective that you have, it makes me feel much better! Thanks again!

bat: Thanks so much!

Joan (Jmouse): Thank you, Joan! And you're right about the trees, too—I'll have to try that!

deathtopumpkins: Ha! Yes it is! Thanks, my friend!

Pat: Hi, there! I haven't gotten around to the parking situation yet...I've got about three things going on in Marathon simultaneously! But, I will definitely be checking out your ideas, though. From the sketch you posted, it looks like it will work splendidly! Thanks again, my friend, for your help and support!



I think I'm getting the hang of this "no-slope-conforming" lot stuff. Here's the Grand Banks Tunnel on Grand Banks Avenue East...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/038.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/039.jpg)

There are crowds of people that should be on the lots, but I haven't quite figured when exactly they pop up!

In the meantime, though, I'm still plugging away at a few different things. Where will we end up next? For now, it's 6:00 AM here in Pennsylvania, I need to get some sleep!

Until then!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 18, 2009, 05:06:11 AM
These two pictures are splendid Dustin, excellent work with these lots , they looks exactly what I was thinking !
The trees you used looks wonderful there my friend and the same for the buildings !  &apls
Excellent attention to details.  :thumbsup:
( I saw that it's your 5555th post !  $%Grinno$% :D )

Arthur.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on February 18, 2009, 06:24:25 AM
Hello Dustin,

 wow....
Great work one this one.  It really looks like you have figured out your way around LE.
 I'm sure I have said this many times before but I am really amazed at how far SC4 has come and it's players.  You can no longer just grab the game and play, but now you need a full custom filled plugins.  The NAM is now essential along with a few others.  It aslo looks like the player needs and know how to use the LE.  Not only is the custom look needed and wanted for that matter but your own personel touch here and there.
 Anyways, Dustin, I like this one.  &apls

See you later,
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 18, 2009, 08:54:06 AM
Nice tunnel entrance there!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on February 18, 2009, 10:02:38 AM
HI Dustin that is looking real sweet how it turned out there with the tunnel area!!! I like that plaza area alot!!!  Just let me know when you can take a looksie over yonder  ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: nova vesfalo on February 18, 2009, 10:38:31 AM
That's something I loke a lot here, you show us every part of the development, LE problems, explain a lot of things, it's very very instructive. Despite I'm way too lazy for LE, LE is more and more important.

Anyway, this tunnel entrance is really great ! even if I didn't understood this non-slope conforming things :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sheep49 on February 18, 2009, 10:50:03 AM
...You know what? This update has just made me to change my sidewalk textures back to the Meaxis' ones. Seriosly, I've seen those two pics and started to miss its flexibility and, of course, the option to use SFBT's diagonal fillers. ;)

Anyway, back to the update itself... What can I say, great as always. The choice of buildings is extremly good, everythhing seems just to be right. Good work with those lots, too! I really like trees on them. The billboard is also a nice touch I have to admit. That said, I can also tell you another thing. You've definitely improved your lotting skills. Big applause for you! &apls

Hmmm... When will those people show up? Well, that's the question for 1,000,000$! I have never figured it out, it seems like it's entirely random. But if I were you, I wouldn't believe me, since me and LOTting is like a fist and a nose: doesn't fit to each other at all $%Grinno$%

Great work! Can't wait for more! :thumbsup:
Piotr
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on February 18, 2009, 01:34:35 PM
That tunnel entrance is looking really good, Dustin.  I think that your latest choice of walls looks even better than the last one.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on February 18, 2009, 01:45:24 PM
You are, indeed, getting the hang of it, Dustin. The tunnel looks terrific in both photos. The billboard in the second pic is a nice touch, and the whole scene has a very realistic look.

Later...

Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 18, 2009, 04:37:58 PM
Wow, that is a nice lot!  &apls I might try a few of these out myself...

And guess what I did today? I used a technique from your map-making tutorial a few pages back when doing a map for my GIS clas.  ;D Thanks again for that...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: LE0 on February 18, 2009, 04:55:38 PM
Wow, excellent retaining walls. :thumbsup:
Are you planning to make transit enabled ones like Marrast M-TEL in the future?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: alan_vzla on February 18, 2009, 05:19:10 PM
great work as always! looking forward to more
Alan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 18, 2009, 05:58:24 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Arthur (art128): Thank you, Arthur! And yes, it was my 5555th, wasn't it? I didn't notice that! Thanks so much for catching it! Oh, and those fences props on those first lots are: JENXProp_Gare_du_Nord_Wall_v4d, Prop ID number 0x70b6bb4. There are four different versions—A, B, C, D—but they only vary in length, and they are all together in the list. Hope that helps, my friend!

Robin (rooker1): Hi, Robin! Thanks so much, my friend! I'm glad you like the lots—I have a pretty good teacher! And you are certainly right, the game and its players have come so far in the past few years! I couldn't even imagine what it would be like to play the game as it is, right out of the box and freshly installed!

bat: Thank you, bat!

Pat: Thanks so much, my friend! And don't worry I'll be visiting very shortly!

nova vesfalo: Hi, my friend! I'm so glad you like it! I was the same way about the LE at first, too, but once you get the hang of it, it's not too bad!

Piotr (Sheep49): Thank you so very much, Piotr! You've been so supportive while I've been toiling in the LE these past couple of days, I appreciate so much, my friend! I can definitely see my skills improving, too, as I get the hang of the program and how to get things to work the way I want them to, and I couldn't have done it without your help! Thanks again and take care!

metarvo: Thank you, my friend! I like these walls better, too, actually. Though, the two lots that I've been showing are for two different places, and you have to switch it up a bit, right? Thanks for stopping by!

Joan (Jmouse): Thank you, Joan! I think things are starting to come together!

deathtopumpkins: Hey, thanks! It makes me so happy to hear that you've gotten some use out of the map tutorial, too, especially since you were able to use it in school! Please feel free to post your finished product here, if you're comfortable doing so, of course! Thanks!

LE0: Hi! Thank you so much! As for transit-enabled ones, that's certainly something I can looking to—it's a bit above my pay grade right now, though! Thanks for coming by and I hope to see you again here soon!

Alan (alan_vzla): Thank you, Alan! It's always great to see you here!



Our good friend nova vesfalo—author of Tientsin - Fort Bayart (http://)—said the following above:

Quote
Anyway, this tunnel entrance is really great ! even if I didn't understood this non-slope conforming things Smiley

Actually, it's a very easy thing to take care of, and I learned it thanks to a wonderful tutorial by Dan (dsrwhat316), How to Build a Sloped Underpass (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=3495.0). Dan's tutorial covered a more in-depth process of which the non-slope conforming process is just a section, so in an effort to make it a bit easier—since it is only a two-step process—I thought I'd post it here for quick reference. But before we start, let m extend my many thanks to Dan for this and his other great tutorials he's posted for us. You're a wealth of great information, my friend!

Here we go!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/040.jpg)

All you have to do is adjust some settings under the Lot Tab:

1. "Threshold" to 0.0.
2. "Lot Max" to 90.0, "Lot Min" to 0.0 (this may be the default value for "Lot Min," I don't remember off the top of my head. Sorry!)

Also, one bit of advice, just make sure that the section of the lot you want face out is not facing the road. As shown in this picture, I wanted the billboard to face out towards the avenue, so I had it facing away from the road in the LE. Other than that, just make your lots as you would normally!

I hope this was able to help you, nova vesfalo, and anyone looking to try this out!

A proper update is on the way, though we'll be heading somewhere different, I think!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on February 18, 2009, 06:07:46 PM
Nice to see my tutorials put to good use  :thumbsup:

As pointed out by metasmurf earlier, there are props that give you a bit more choice with foundations. Lately, I've used the ones that are on Pegasus' marina lots, but there are others to use, as well. Can't remember any, though...  ::)

Just a small critique; the fences you are using do look nice, but to me they seem out of proportion compared to the people. I know there is a way to resize the props using the Reader, but I can't seem to remember that, either  :D If you need any more help with the LE, feel free to drop me a PM. I'm always willing to lend a hand  :thumbsup: Can't wait to see more lots, Dustin!

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 18, 2009, 06:13:17 PM
Now I really think I'll try that out!  :D

And sure Dustin, I don't mind posting the finished map here. It'll be at least a few weeks though. It's a map of Suffolk, VA by the way...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: jmdude1 on February 18, 2009, 07:59:25 PM
hey dustin, nice work on the sloped underpass.  i noticed last page you were looking for an easier way to check out the lot foundations. well, the only thing i know of is to edit the lot, then choose 'save as' and then edit it for a new foundation and 'save as'. then you can check them all out at once. it still time consuming but not nearly as much as exiting the LE. anyways, keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on February 18, 2009, 08:28:47 PM
Dustin simply sweet looking there with the second set there!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sheep49 on February 19, 2009, 01:27:52 AM
Heh, nice and useful tutorial based on another nice and useful tutorial. Now making non-slope conforming lots will be even easier. Oh, and don't forget to choose some lot foundation! $%Grinno$%

That said, let's move on to the lot itself. i know we've seen it in the last update, though now we can se it with people! Yay! I have to say this looks much better with all those Sims who are talking while standing around. One problem, though. One of the Amill Medium (No, I don't remeber it's name ;)) props looks like its levitating to the front of the billboard ???, and that looks strange to say the least.

'Somewhere different', huh? I wonder where... But that and the other things will be revealed in the next episode of 'Commonwealth of Marathon', only on SC4D Channel! :P

Keep up the great work ;)
Piotr
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on February 19, 2009, 02:44:57 AM
Thanks for the tute, Dustin. I always prefer the easy ones,so I'll be giving this one a try pretty soon.

It's funny how the game display can play tricks on you. The first time I glanced at the Grand Banks Tunnel, it looked like the grey iron fence divided two flat surfaces. It took a moment for my brain to wrap itself around what my eyes were seeing! Anyway, your walls are looking better and better, but my eyes are getting worse and worse I guess  &mmm!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sciurus on February 19, 2009, 04:35:14 AM
It's very nice, and finally, I prefer the latest texture than the first, it better. :thumbsup: I see all this people they're going to work, and I think it isn't financial crisis in your city :D
You're mini tutorial to help Nova Vesfalo is ver nice, I think it could help me :thumbsup:
So, I hope you're take as many pleasure as developp your city, and I wish you a good continuation,

Guillaume :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [02/19/09]: UPDATE XXII: Don't You Feel Like...
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 19, 2009, 04:58:30 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Dan (dsrwhat316): Here he is, the Man of the Hour! Thank you so very much for your wonderful tutorials, my friend! I would be lost without you! As for the resizing of props, that's way out of my league...at least at this point. I used to think the LE was out of my league, but apparently not! Thanks for the tip, though, and for everything else!

deathtopumpkins: Thank you, my friend! I can't wait to see your map of Suffolk, VA, too!

jmdude1: Thank you very much! And that's a great trick to check out the lot foundations, too. I'm definitely going to do that next time. It beats opening and closing! Take care!

Pat: Thanks, my friend!

Piotr (Sheep49): Hi, Piotr! I think it looks much better with people in it, too. Now if they would just show up when I want to take their picture! Maybe they're camera shy? Either way, thanks for your support, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): Hey, Joan! I did the same thing with the brick texture and the brick foundation when I first saw it! I had to do a double-take to make sure I wasn't hallucinating. I'm glad you like the tutorial, and I hope you can put it to good use! Take care, Joan!

Guillaume (Sciurus): Hi, my friend! Thank you so much! I hope you can get some use of the tutorial, too! Thanks for coming by!




UPDATE XXII
Don't You Feel Like You're a Rider on a Downbound Train?
Part I: Construction!

19 February 2009

We'll switch gears here a bit in Marathon and head to a part of the city that I've actually dreaded a bit because I have no logistical knowledge of them—railroads, particularly, the Central Marathon Station.

First move?

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22001.jpg)

Picking a location! I've chosen Tile G for it's central location on the island. Zooming in, we see...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22002.jpg)

...our labeled streets. I had to get some use out of the street sign graphics, I really had fun making them! Since Kittery Avenue is the north-south meridian on Marathon Island, having the central train station around that area seemed logical.

So, we begin construction!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22003.jpg)

We bulldoze everything from the tile edge to the water...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22004.jpg)

...and level the old sunken highway trench.

Next comes the big part...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22005.jpg)

...our station. And what a station it is! The best rail station ever made, in my opinion, and one of the best BATs overall—the Gare du Nord (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1420) by xannepan.

Moving on!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22007.jpg)

Our next move is to do a bit of land reclamation, extending the island out to the west.

Then...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22008.jpg)

...we level.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22009.jpg)

Connecting the rails is the next step...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22010.jpg)

...followed by some clean-up.

Now we go back to our sunken highway...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22011.jpg)

...and connected that via a tunnel beneath the station. We do the same with Chrysanthemum Avenue, only this time...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22012.jpg)

...we use the FLUPs, or Flexible Underpasses—one of the recent and fantastic additions to the 2009 NAM release! At this point, though, they are merely cosmetic, as I'm not adept with them yet! No matter, we'll get there soon enough!

Backing up for a second, if we may...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22009.jpg)

As you'll notice, the slope of the rails has cut off access to the L'Anneau de Marathon, something that I would like to avoid.

The solution?

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22013.jpg)

...a bit of "terracing"—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22014.jpg)

By leveling the section where the L'Anneau will travel, we can use...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22015.jpg)

...the NAM Puzzle Pieces to make the connection without any strange angles, slopes, or other assorted issues.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22016.jpg)

We then continue the rails to their necessary elevation.

After a bit more cleaning up and leveling of things, we get the entire station area. First the top...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22017.jpg)

...then the bottom!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22018.jpg)

But the game's not over yet. Those rails have to connect somewhere, and we'll connect with that in Part II!

Or, and before we go...

http://www.youtube.com/v/gXQYT_L4K0U&hl=en&fs=1
"Downbound Train" by Bruce Springsteen. Born in the U.S.A., 1984.

In case you were wondering where our update title came from! For those who are interested (besides me, probably no one, but that's OK!), "Downbound Train" was voted Bruce Springsteen's most melancholy song by Rolling Stone in 1999, I believe. Melancholy or no, it's one of my favorites.

In a bit...I'm off to bed! These late nights are starting to get très ennuyeux!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JoeST on February 19, 2009, 05:27:07 AM
oh WOW, I cant wait for more, that is AWESOME! :o

Joe
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Alfred.Jones on February 19, 2009, 05:27:15 AM
That is impressive Dustin! I was a bit surprised when you placed the station with the tracks facing the water $%Grinno$% But i'm liking what you have done so far! I love the avenue overpass over the rails :thumbsup: Looks fantastic! Looking forward to more

AJ :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on February 19, 2009, 06:23:00 AM
Dustin,
 Very impressive walk through....
As for your sleep, no wonder, 6 am, I'm just leaving for work and you are just going to bed and we are in the same time zone.  Well things do get exciting sometimes when playing the game. ;)
 I just have to sit back I guess to find out how you are going to work out the rail lines.  You have me a little perplexed. ()what()
 Great work again,
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 19, 2009, 06:33:18 AM
Hey Dustin, this is just awesome, I can't find other words to describe your work my friend!
You shown there that you are a genius. Colossal work here with this train line.
It's sure that the train have to connect somewhere, they can't stop here just after the station !  $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Ah and don't forget to add some centenaries !

Keep it up,

Arthur.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on February 19, 2009, 07:53:10 AM
Excellent start with your train station :thumbsup:..One things is sure , that`s is gonna have a lot of activities over there  :D Keep it up
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 19, 2009, 09:44:10 AM
Wonderful work on that train station so far! Nice pictures!
Looking forward to more... ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sciurus on February 19, 2009, 11:11:15 AM
Ypur work is awesome, but one question: will the railroads go under the water? ??? This is the only thing I reproach you ;)

Guillaume :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Heblem on February 19, 2009, 11:27:54 AM
Nice work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on February 19, 2009, 02:41:29 PM
Dustin looking great here wow!! I love the tracks there...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 19, 2009, 02:58:20 PM
Wow, that looks great! Nice solution there with the overpass...

Though could you refresh me on where the rail lines are going?  :D Off the island in a tunnel?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sheep49 on February 19, 2009, 03:12:41 PM
Hmmm... It's been a while since the last update, hasn't it? Either way, I have to say that this is a really impressive work! First of all, I have to agree about location of the station. I think it's a good idea to build it like that. Bridge(s) shall be moderately easy to build from that point. Oh, and yeah - Gare du Nord is one of the finest BATs, that's one of the ultimate SC4's custom content truths. The next part of update is one of the things that you're doing the best - laying out infrastructure. No complaints at this point neither. Though I'm wondering whether that avenue viaduct over railways could exist in RL. Its span is huge! But it may be a very long arch bridge, who knows? ;)
And thanks for that Bruce Springsteen song! I've gotta admit that I have never heard it. ??? Shame on me! :D

Can't wait for the part II! Keep up the great work :thumbsup:
Piotr
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on February 19, 2009, 10:48:55 PM
Well, if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I wouldn't believe it! That is a technique worth trying out for sure, but I might want to start out with just a couple of tracks. &mmm And do I see another tunnel in Marathon's near future?

Outstanding update this time...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on February 20, 2009, 07:39:15 AM
This may be the first time I've seen Marathon's railroads, but I must say that this is a very good way to start.  You are right about that station, as it became a must-have for me the moment I saw it here.  Keep up the good work, Dustin.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 21, 2009, 01:58:11 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Joe (JoeST): Thank you so much, Joe!

Alfred.Jones: Thanks, I'm glad you like it!

Robin (rooker1): Hi, Robin! My sleep has been quite erratic lately, hasn't it? Maybe if someone wouldn't have introduced me to the inner-workings of the LE...Just kidding, my friend! It's all worth it! Thanks for coming by!

Arthur (art128): Thanks, Arthur, for your very nice comments! I appreciate them very much! And don't worry, I'll get the catenaries in there for you!

kimcar: Thank you! I think the area will have quite a lot of activity, too. At least I hope so! Take care!

bat: Thanks!

Guillaume (Sciurus): Thank you! As for whether the rails will go underwater...well, we'll get to that very soon, don't worry!

Heblem: Thanks!

Pat: Thank you, my friend!

deathtopumpkins: Hi, there! I'm glad you enjoy it! As for the tracks, we'll see where they head quite soon, my friend! Thanks for stopping in!

Piotr (Sheep49): Hi, Piotr! I'm so happy that you like the set-up, it actually took a bit of time to find the right place for it. I even had pictures for this update with the station located elsewhere, but I ended up scrapping it because things didn't come together the want I wanted them to. As for the avenue bridge, you're definitely right about it being pretty long. That's the great thing about a game, though—the Sims can't sue if the bridge gives out! Oh, and don't worry about never hearing the Springsteen song either, it's a bit obscure. While it's on his most popular and best-selling album, it kind of gets lost amongst the seven Top 10 singles on the rest of the album. Hope to see you again, soon!

Joan (Jmouse): Hey, Joan! You may be right about the tunnel, my friend, but I'm not sure...or am I? We'll find out together! Thanks again for all your support!

metarvo: Hi! It's definitely the first time you've seen Marathon's railroads, I've only shown them here for the first time. Frankly, I'm a bit intimidated by railroads because of my lack of knowledge on how they should be laid and arranged. I guess I have to do some research before getting too deep into it! It's always great to see you here, my friend! Take care!



Well, the Marathon Telegraph (http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/028.jpg) was able to snap a picture of the sports complex that has been under construction for the past couple of weeks. There's just one slight problem, though...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/041.jpg)

It seems that the copy-boy dropped it in a puddle during the last snow-melt! Needless to say, he's been demoted to paper-carrier!

More from Marathon is on the way!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on February 21, 2009, 06:11:06 AM
Well what can you do? A little water damage isn't the end of the world. If you squint you can kind of make it out. On a brighter note, I really like what you've done with the train station, and I like the avenue overpass. I do have one critique of it though. The span design looks like it's too long to effectively support the bridge. If you consolidated a track or two in the middle and allowed for a few pieces with pillars it would help the realism in my opinion. Either way though, it's a neat idea and very well done. A good area for trainspotting. Looking forward to seeing where they connect (starting to look like a massive tunnel project might be in the works with that slope). Until then, take it easy.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 21, 2009, 10:37:46 AM
Looking forward to more from the Sports Complex! ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sciurus on February 21, 2009, 10:58:23 AM
'Love your newspaper! &apls But does the image represent? ::)
See you later, I hope,

Guillaume :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 21, 2009, 11:04:17 AM
Hehehe... nice water damage!  :D I think I can make out a few stadiums in there though...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on February 21, 2009, 04:42:00 PM
We used to have a clumsy copy boy like that - I think he's the Senior Editor now.

Looking forward to seeing the redeveloped photo!
:D
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 22, 2009, 03:56:33 AM
Dustin, the sport complex is finely done ! Wow -- can't wait to see it on a general view !
Also the newspaper is very greatly done my friend, excellent work.  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Heblem on February 22, 2009, 04:01:24 AM
Can't wait what you have prepared for us! also I do really like your train station, eager to see how you'll develop that area.

Take care  ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [02/22/09]: UPDATE XXIII: Don't You Feel Like...
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 22, 2009, 04:08:39 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Matt (threestooges): Hi, Matt! Thank you so much for your input on the bridge, my friend. And, knowing your CML, you know your bridges! I like your idea with the pillars in the middle, too, and will definitely be looking into ways to work around it so the bridge is a bit more realistic. With the slopes so close, though, it might be a tough fit. But we won't know unless we try, right? Thanks again, my friend! Take care!

bat: Thanks!

Guillaume (Sciurus): Thank you, my friend! The image was just a bit of a joke, actually. It doesn't really represent anything...yet!

deathtopumpkins: Ha! You've got some good eyes, there, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): Hi, Joan! You know those unpaid interns, they just can't seem to do much right! Thanks for stopping by, my friend!

Arthur (art128): Hi, my friend! Unfortunately, it's not finished, but development is coming along quite nicely! Thanks so much!

Heblem: Gracias, my friend!




UPDATE XXIII
Don't You Feel Like You're a Rider on a Downbound Train?
Part II: Completion...For Now, At Least!

22 February 2009

So! Where did we leave off last time? Oh, I remember—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22018.jpg)

Here! We have the rail lines from the station at the level needed for something that more than one of you guessed would be their next route, a tunnel!

Creating an underwater rail tunnel is the same as creating an underwater road tunnel, so if you are unsure how to do it, but want to make one with roads, avenues, etc., instead of rails, it's just as easy as substitution.

Here goes!

Our initial step is...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2023/23001.jpg)

...to make a land bridge across the water body that we want our tunnel to traverse. The roads on each side are placemarkers for me to know where the rails are supposed to be on the other side of our future tunnel.

Next, we...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2023/23002.jpg)

...make a trench across the land bridge so that each side of the tunnel is the same elevation, making it easier to have them connect when it's time to bore the tunnels.

With...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2023/23003.jpg)

...preparation of the other side finished, we then move on to...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2023/23004.jpg)

...building our tunnels!

There's number one, and...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2023/23005.jpg)

...there's the rest!

Now comes the part where things can go south on you if you're not careful and you have to start all the way back at square one:

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2023/23006.jpg)

Carefully—I cannot emphasize this enough—start removing your land bridge and replacing it with the water. I would recommend saving the tile before undertaking this, that way any misstep would not result in going all the way back to the pre-land bridge phase.

Do one side...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2023/23007.jpg)

...and then the other, followed by...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2023/23008.jpg)

...some clean-up and cosmetics on the island side of the tunnel.

Here's an overview of the the tunnel.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2023/23009.jpg)

I'll point out quickly now that absolutely no thought has been put into where things will go once the rails reach the other side of the tunnel. That's part of an immense, ongoing mental exercise that I have been contemplating almost constantly. It's also another show!

We'll go back to the island end of things for a second...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2023/23010.jpg)

...and examine our tunnels. What can we do here? Well, the answer is...(and I'm sure a lot of you know before I even get there!)...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2023/23011.jpg)

...the non-slope conforming lots from earlier! Above is the north side, and here's...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2023/23012.jpg)

south...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2023/23013.jpg)

...and west.

Thanks to these lots, we've opened up...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2023/23014.jpg)

...another can of LE worms!

So that's the story on the Marathon Central Station (working title, I'll probably come up with something a bit better). Rest assured, we will be visiting this area later when the surrounding sections—which will be considered another quay like our sports complex one—are out of the preliminary stages and have a bit more development!

More when we return!

Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Alfred.Jones on February 22, 2009, 04:14:37 AM
Looking very nice Dustin :thumbsup: Those lots look great
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 22, 2009, 04:30:44 AM
Nice work on these rail tunnels there! Looking forward to more... ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on February 22, 2009, 08:54:37 AM
 &apls &apls Very original all these tunnel and thats look quite good too .Have fun
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sciurus on February 22, 2009, 09:21:50 AM
It just impressive those tunnels! :o

Guillaume :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 23, 2009, 03:38:30 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Alfred.Jones: Thank you, my friend! I'm glad you think so!

bat: Thanks, bat!

kimcar: Thanks so much!

Guillaume (Sciurus): Merci beaucoup, Guillaume!



Nothing new to show right now, I've been at my girlfriend's house since Thursday night and I haven't been on my own computer. She has school at 8:00 AM (about 3½ hours from now), so I've been banished to the living room so she can get a good night's sleep.

While I was out here, though, I did notice that we are less than 150 away from...

20,000 views!

Or, for you fans of scientific notation...

2.0 x 104 views!

EDIT: Or for our hexadecimal fans, thanks to our good friend Joe (JoeST):

4E20 views!

That's approximately 181 views a day for 110 days—November 5, 2008 to February 23, 2009. We're also on the cusp of 800 comments as well.

I simply cannot believe all the support I have gotten here and I am truly and deeply indebted to each and every one you. You have made making this MD the most fun and exciting projects I've ever embarked on here. Without all of you, Marathon would be nothing.

Thank you all so very much, my great friends!

Back to the grindstone when I get home tomorrow!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 23, 2009, 03:48:06 AM
Ah.... Wow.... This is just enormous Dustin, the only few things I can say !  &apls
Oh no, not the "puissances" in french, one of the most easier chapter of the mathematics in my grad at school, but one of the most bored too !  $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
As well, congrats on less than 150 away from 20.000 views. &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: JoeST on February 23, 2009, 03:48:56 AM
hehe, thats an awesome number

and in hex: 4E20

JOe
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sheep49 on February 23, 2009, 02:50:15 PM
That's a real milestone there, Dustin! Congratulations on so many views! :thumbsup:

And for all those binary fans out there, it's (now) less than a hundred left to 100111000100000 views! :D

Sorry for not commenting on last update, Dustin. I was too busy in my RL and was too excited that the new GRV starts to comment in MDs. All I can say is that the twenty third update was really awesome! Although that building strategy is not new to me at all (first used it back in SC3K times $%Grinno$%), it's always great to see those different versions of tutorials. It gives you a clearer view on the subject in my opinion. Also, the area around the railways looks truly lovely with those non-slope conforming lots. I'm also wondering what is that lot in the preview going to look like... Probably it'll look great, as most of the things you make :thumbsup:

Keep up the great work! :thumbsup:
Piotr

Oh, and would forget... From today on, your MD is the owner of the Sheep49's Seal of Quality!* :D
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr292/Sheep49/S49Approves.jpg?t=1235418911)

*Keep in mind, this is an unofficial award given by me to the MD that stands out and impresses me very much.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Battlecat on February 23, 2009, 02:59:35 PM
This is an amazing project.  Your latest update says it all, that is a huge rail network!  Looking forward to seeing more! 
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 23, 2009, 03:58:52 PM
Nice look at making an underwater tunnel, Dustin!  &apls

And congrats on all of those views... quite a milestone.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Haljackey on February 23, 2009, 04:05:26 PM
Geesh, that is one big, wide railway.  Nice job with the terraforming and the sloping, especially with the creative undersea tunnel! 

That ave overpass must have been built with a super-strong material, it has no support beams!   :P

Anyways take care, and an early congrats on the milestone you are about to reach! (19,948 at the time of this reply)

Best,
-Haljackey
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on February 23, 2009, 04:16:36 PM
Well Dustin I would say your trucking along here but that wouldnt be right at all  $%Grinno$%  I think it would be better to say your tracking along here lol.... Looking good and I like those stats and how you broke it down!!!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Alfred.Jones on February 23, 2009, 11:23:09 PM
Congrats on over 20,000 or 2.0 x 104 or 4E20 views!!

 &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 24, 2009, 12:18:20 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Arthur (art128): Thank you so much, my friend! Without you, we wouldn't have made it this far!

Joe (JoeST): Hi, Joe! I added the hex number in for you! Thanks for stopping by!

Piotr (Sheep49): Wow! I got the big stamp! Thanks so much, Piotr! You never have to worry about missing an update or being to busy to comment, my friend—I understand completely, I'm pretty excited to see how GRV goes, too! Thanks so much for all your support, Piotr. It's very much appreciated and means a great deal to me.

Battlecat: Welcome to Marathon! Thank you so very much, my friend! I hope to see more of you here!

deathtopumpkins: Thank you!

Haljackey: Hi, there! Thank you for your great comment—I'll be looking to find a solution to the bridge situation, it is quite long, isn't it! Hopefully I can come up with something that's not only realistic, but satisfies my need for order! Thanks for stopping in!

Pat: Thank you so much, my friend!

Alfred.Jones: Thank you! We made it!



Yes, we made it, indeed! In what ever language or notation you say, Marathon has made it to 20,000 views!

I'm back home now, and with a brand new computer (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9166323&type=product&id=1218041149114) in tow! Whilst transitioning some things from my old one to the new one, I've had some time to play around in the LE...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/042.jpg)

Getting started on filling in the area around where our rail tunnels are located.

In addition to the 20,000+ views, we're also dangerously close to 800 comments, as well—I believe this post is the 798th? Well, whichever post it is, I am deeply grateful for posts 1 - 799 (excluding mine, of course!), and here's to 800 more!

Thank you all again, so very much, friends!

In a bit!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Alfred.Jones on February 24, 2009, 12:26:27 AM
Congrats again Dustin :thumbsup:

I really like that Lot! Will look great once you have it amongst the rails!
Nice computer as well ;)

Well done on receiving 800 comments as well :)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Heblem on February 24, 2009, 01:21:49 AM
Dustin thats a nice work in LE, where did you got that overlay base for tree, that would come handly on my MD  :)

Also like how youre developing that area. Sorry for my last PM yesterday
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 24, 2009, 04:37:58 AM
Hey Dustin, that's a pretty great lot there my friend, good work on it.
It looks splendid with these tables in a center piece.
Congrats on 800 (+) posts &apls
Arthur. ()stsfd() :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on February 24, 2009, 07:28:02 AM
Your LE work keeps getting better and better, Dustin.  You have also done a nice job on the rail tunnel.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: paroch on February 24, 2009, 10:36:34 AM
Hi Dustin,

I know I've not been as active as before, so thought I'd pop in to check out what's been happening recently.  Great work on the raliway station there - that surely is the mother of all tunnels!  Nice to see your LE work as well, there is certainly something quite theraputic about fiddling around with props and textures to produce something that's just right for your own city.

Big congrats on 800 posts and here's to the next 800.

All the best

Paul
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 24, 2009, 12:25:54 PM
Congrats on 800 replies and over 20000 views... &apls &apls &apls
That lot looks beautiful! ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sheep49 on February 24, 2009, 01:39:44 PM
Yay! The dual celebration: 20,000 views and 8,000 comments! :party:

Seriously though, congratulations on those two big milestones! It's not easy to achieve them, especially in less than five months. That must mean something. I know what: that your MD is awesome! :D

Now, first of all, hope you're happy with your new computer. It's awful to work on the one which just doesn't seem to be OK for you. But it seems everything's good, hence the look of the newest custom lot of yours. It looks really nice with all those tables and people around them. Good choice of trees, too! Not too short, not too tall. I'm pretty sure it will be fitting in the area it's supposed to be plopped (around the railway's tunnel entrance) :thumbsup:

Keep up the great work, Dustin! &apls
Piotr

PS. Glad you liked the Seal of Quality stamp ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 24, 2009, 05:23:52 PM
Congrats on 800 posts, and that is a nice lot there!

Oh, and that's cool that you got a new computer, what are the specs?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on February 24, 2009, 05:48:03 PM
Congratulations, Dustin. You've managed to set astounding records that may never be broken - somebody needs to notify Guinness at once!

Appreciate the tutorial on underwater tunnels. As a child, I rode through the Washburn Tunnel under the Houston Ship Channel a few times, and the eerie color of the lights in that tile structure is my strongest memory.

Later...
Joan
.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 25, 2009, 02:08:30 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Alfred.Jones: Hello, my friend! Thanks so much for ringing the bell on #800! I'm glad you like the lot, too! Thanks for stopping in!

Heblem: Thanks! The overlay texture ID number is 0xf0b0621a. Unfortunately, I'm unsure which pack it's in, though. Hope that helps!

Arthur (art128): Thank you so very much, Arthur!

metarvo: Thanks! I'm really starting to get comfortable in there now, thanks to some help from Robin (rooker1), who's been teaching me tricks here and there. Thanks for coming by!

Paul (paroch): Hi, Paul! It's great to see you again, my friend! Your definitely right about the therapeutic nature of a finished product in the LE. For as much toiling as there is over a lot, the satisfaction of getting it done and looking how you want it to far outweighs it. Hope to see you again soon!

bat: Thanks!

Piotr (Sheep49): Thanks so much, Piotr! I'm glad you like the lot so far, my friend! I don't want to lose that "seal of approval!"

deathtopumpkins: Thanks a bunch, my friend! As for the computer specs—2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor, 500GB HD, 6GB DDR2 SDRAM, nVidia GeForce 9600M GT with 512 MB DDR2 dedicated graphics memory, 17" widescreen, high-definition display...oh, and a webcam! I won't lie to you, I'm not really sure what a lot of that means, I just copied it off the box. But judging by the fact that I can get from start-up and into a game tile in less than a minute with a 2.0 GB plug-ins folder, I think I'm in decent shape for now!

Joan (Jmouse): Thank you so much, Joan! I've always been quite fond of bridges and tunnels. I remember the first time I went through the Lincoln Tunnel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Tunnel) as a child—coming up into New York City left me pretty awestruck as a kindergartener. It's always a pleasure to have you here, my friend!



We're still chugging along on the train station lots. I've got the north side of the tunnel finished for the most part. Here's how she looks in the LE—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/043.jpg)

It's a 5x21 lot. I was going to break it up into sections, but then I figured that I could maintain a bit more continuity if a made it one big one. It was rather tricky navigating in the LE, though, I have to admit!

Here it is in place...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/044.jpg)

...by the tunnel. You can see the restaurant section to the right from the earlier pictures, as well as a fountain area in the center, and a small marketplace at the left.

Here's the restaurant...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/045.jpg)

...and the area around the fountains.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/046.jpg)

I'm not entirely sure if I want to keep all those lampposts in the line on each end of the lot. I have to play around there, I think. Finally...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/047.jpg)

...the marketplace.

All that's left to do is add in some kind of fence/divider on the side next to the embankment and it should be finished!

Oh, and the Telegraph sent another photographer out to the sports complex construction site again...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/048.jpg)

...and wouldn't you know it? Again, that blasted unpaid intern copy-boy struck again! This time it looks like he tried to turn it into a kaleidoscope or something!

More from the train station, the sports complex, and other points Marathon when we return!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Alfred.Jones on February 25, 2009, 02:17:04 AM
Those lots are fantastic! Much better than any attempt I can make :D

I love all the people and props such as toilets, lamp posts and kiosks! Makes it look much more busy :thumbsup:

And that blasted unpaid intern copy-boy!! I think i can make out the Toyota Center from Houston though :P
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dedgren on February 25, 2009, 02:43:37 AM
Center the "kaleidoscope" pic on your screen and run the mouse wheel up and down, Dustin.  The effect is mesmerizing provided you don't throw up on your keyboard.

Can this man LOT or what?  And the Sheep49 Seal of Approval to boot.  I want one of those!

I'm about ready to send the girlfriend a sympathy card, 'cos I can't imagine she sees that much of you.


David
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 25, 2009, 03:34:52 AM
Dustin, These lots are just excellent my friend, the props used looks wonderful there.
One only thing, It's that :

(http://nsa05.casimages.com/img/2009/02/25/090225103948480287.jpg)
I think you should turn the toilets by 90° to look better (I think people can't use it cause the door is just too close...  Or even if they can go in, I think they cant exit... $%Grinno$% )

Also, Where you get the triangle shaped things in the same pic ?

Arthur.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on February 25, 2009, 06:15:32 AM
Dustin,
Awesome work on the LOTs.  And blast that copy-boy.
From what I can see, I think the Stadium area is going to look great.

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Battlecat on February 25, 2009, 11:56:28 AM
Nice looking custom lot there!  You've put a lot of work into the details throughout it.  Can't blame you for doing a huge lot like that, you're absolutely right about the benefits of continuity throughout the lot.  Looking forward to seeing what's the rest of the station will look like!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 25, 2009, 12:48:06 PM
Nice restaurant there! The fountains are also really great! Also wonderful pictures of your lots!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 25, 2009, 03:09:25 PM
Wow, sounds like a nice new PC!  :thumbsup: I don't know what some of that means either, but that load time is impressive on its own.

And that is some nice lotting! I can't wait to see the area finished, I have a feeling I'll be impressed.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on February 25, 2009, 04:09:55 PM
Your lotting skills are coming along quite nicely, Dustin. As always, I do have a few suggestions/critiques  ::)

I suggest you use some more overlay textures. Some grass strips would break up the monotony of the base textures. Also, a "walkway" texture will give the lot more depth. Since you are making such a large lot, be careful not to use too many props, base and overlay textures. There is a limit, a lesson I learned (Click Me!) (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6862.0).

A great source of inspiration for my lots came from Badsim's amazing MD, Antigone (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=217.0). Whenever I'm stuck creative-wise, I check out his MD and draw from the pics. Of course, if you want to use me as a source of inspiration, you could do that, too  :P

Remember, if you are ever stuck or need advice, I'm just a PM away (this goes for anyone else, too!).

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 26, 2009, 03:38:31 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Alfred.Jones: Thanks! You have to have those toilets, otherwise the masses are in a bit of a spot! Oh, and no...you...don't see...the Toyota Center...at...all. It was an...illusion... Thanks for coming by!

David (dedgren): Hi, David! I did your kaleidoscope trick—you're right, my stomach's not doing to hot now! It's always a wonderful day in Marathon when you drop in, my friend! Hope to see you again soon!

Arthur (art128): Oops! Thanks for catching that one, Arthur! I didn't realize where the doors were. That could have gotten somewhat messy, eh? Take care!

Robin (rooker1): Thanks, Robin! That intern is in a whole heap of trouble this time!

Battlecat: Thank you so much, my friend!

bat: Thanks!

deathtopumpkins: Yes, I am so happy I don't have to sit and wait for three days just to open the game up, then another two to get into a tile!

Dan (dsrwhat316): Hi, Dan! Thank you so much for all you hints and tips, my friend, especially the one about having too many props and things. I never would have guessed that were an issue, but now I know! I will be heading back into the LE to play around with your other suggestions, too. If I can get them to look half as good as your work, I'll be mighty happy! And, of course I use "The Source" as a source! It wouldn't be right if I didn't, right? Take care my friend!



Well, that miscreant unpaid intern was sent on assignment to Albuquerque, NM, to wait for a thunderstorm—he can't even get pictures right, how will he know that Albuquerque is in an arid climate! Anyway, with the intern away, the Marathon Telegraph was able to get back to work as scheduled. Here's today's issue...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/049.jpg)

More to come!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Alfred.Jones on February 26, 2009, 03:42:22 AM
Very professional looking newspaper Dustin :thumbsup:

Love the image for the Prizefight article :P
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 26, 2009, 03:50:33 AM
Oh, I forgot : /!\ Welcome to page 42 of this incredible MD /!\


Hey Dustin, this newspaper looks wonderful my friend. &apls
I really love that design, it look very professional  like AJ said.
Bad news for the Blizzard...  ()sad()

Arthur.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 26, 2009, 07:19:25 AM
Nice work on that newspaper! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on February 26, 2009, 09:08:19 AM
Dustin,
 Great work on the newspaper, that's what I would like mine to turn out like.  You need to give me some pointers on PS, please.

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on February 26, 2009, 04:32:41 PM
Wonderful work on the newspaper, Dustin. I've seen plenty in RL that don't look half that good! The Daily Fish Wrapper comes to mind.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 26, 2009, 07:23:58 PM
Nice newspaper, Dustin! &apls That snow sounds pretty nice, as it has already gotten hot again here...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 27, 2009, 05:08:25 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Alfred.Jones: Thanks, my friend! I don't know why the idea to use that popped into my head, but I'm glad it did! Take care!

Arthur (art128): Hi, Arthur! Thanks so much! I'm glad you like it!

bat: Danke schön!

Robin (rooker1): Thanks, Robin! Anytime you want or need help in Photoshop, you know where to find me! After all, it's the least I could do to return the favor for all your help, my friend. Thanks for coming by!

Joan (Jmouse): Thank you, Joan! Our local paper around here is pretty much only good for lining bird and rabbit cages.

deathtopumpkins: Thanks! It was warm here for a while, but now it's starting to get a bit colder again. I hope we get more snow soon, though—I'm a winter person.



Well, it seems that the Telegraph was able to get a real photographer out to the sports complex area to get the up-close scoop. The only problem? Well...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/050.jpg)

...he got a bit too up-close! One of these days, they'll get it right!

In other news, though, more development has been taking place over at the train station. Here's the initial texturing and set-up of another section in the LE...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/051.jpg)

...currently sans props. I took it into the game to make sure I had the dimensions right...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/052.jpg)

...Whew—I did!

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/053.jpg)

Here's a view from the opposite angle. One other thing I have to take care of, too...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/054.jpg)

...is matching up these textures on the billboard lot for continuity in the entire section.

Back to work, actually I should probably try to go to sleep, it's after 6:00 AM here in Pennsylvania. Comments, criticisms, suggestions, etc., are more than welcome, friends!

In a bit!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 27, 2009, 05:42:17 AM
Dustin,

 That progress here looks very promising my friend.
 The CNIT lot looks excellent, even without any props, but It looks to be a great lot, like all your others work !
 I think you will put some fences around the big grass area, no ?

Take care,
Arthur.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: homefryes on February 27, 2009, 09:57:59 AM
Dustin, haven't commented here in awhile, but I've been lurking regularly, my friend. Just had to say what an awesome station you have there. Looking forward to seeing more......

— Don
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Battlecat on February 27, 2009, 11:30:45 AM
This is continuing to look excellent!  I like the model you're using for that train station, it's going to look great when you add all the details. 
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: guurgkud on February 27, 2009, 12:49:05 PM
Hey there, pal.

You have quite a gem going on! This CJ is really beautiful. I really love the little tutorials you give with your updates, and I really appreciate the one you gave on the first page on how to make an island! That's something I will try.
Your custom lots are also really beautiful. Taking time to do custom lots really puts you miles ahead.

Looking forward to more!  :thumbsup: I'm intrigued.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 27, 2009, 01:10:00 PM
Nice work on that train station! Nice LE-work! Looking forward to more... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on February 27, 2009, 02:21:11 PM
Nice lot Dustin!  I can imagine it's going to look real good with props! And I can't wait to see that sports complex once the photographer gets it right! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 27, 2009, 07:08:43 PM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Arthur (art128): Thank you, Arthur! I'm glad you like the lot, so far! I'm still working on the props now, but you might be on to something with the fences! Thanks for stopping in!

Don (homefryes): Hi, Don! Glad to see you back, my friend! I'm happy you like the station!

Battlecat: Thanks, my friend!

guurgkud: Hi, there! Welcome to Marathon! I'm so glad that you're enjoying things here and I hope to see you here again soon!

bat: Thank you so much, my friend!

deathtopumpkins: Thank you! I'm still working on the props now, but hopefully I have something to show soon! Take care!



I've been spending an awful in the LE lately, only heading into the game to check things out. So this evening, I thought I'd get back to basics a bit with just a random neighborhood shot...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/055.jpg)

Nothing special, just one of those pictures that I enjoy putting together. It was a bit tougher this time around, though, since I didn't have my full plug-ins folder.

More from Marathon to come, thanks for coming by!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: rooker1 on February 27, 2009, 07:44:50 PM
Dustin,

 Great picture, maybe one of my favourites so far.  The W2W fits in perfect with jestarr's industrial stuff in the back ground.
 &apls
Hey, how long are you going to be working on the Sports Complex area?  ::)
Hope we can get some more pictures real soon.
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on February 27, 2009, 07:45:06 PM
Excellent photo, Dustin. Very realistic - everything fits together really well. Plus there's some traffic on the streets and some pedestrians. Very well done!

Later...

Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on February 27, 2009, 11:03:53 PM
Dustin awesome stuff here wow!!! Love what you did with the CNIT and I know Borealis would love it  ;)
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 28, 2009, 04:54:02 AM
Hey Dustin, even if Robin have already said what I was thinking, I will say it,
The W2W are really greatly done my friend, and fit perfectly with the industrial building.

Arthur.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 28, 2009, 06:08:24 AM
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Replies.jpg)

Robin (rooker1): Thanks so much, Robin! I'm glad you like the picture, my friend! As for how long the sports complex will take...well, your guess is as good as mine!

Joan (Jmouse): Thank you, Joan! I have fun putting areas like this together, and I always try to make sure that I get some traffic on the streets, too! Glad you stopped by!

Pat: Thanks, my friend!

Arthur (art128): Merci, Arthur! I glad you enjoyed the picture, my friend!



I've been slowly adding some more to the CNIT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNIT) section of the train station. Adding, subtracting, re-adding, subtracting again, etc., etc., etc...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/057.jpg)

That's where we stand as of right now!

And a bit more from the sports complex...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/056.jpg)

We've been working pretty hard on it tonight—I even drove Robin to drink!

In a bit!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: metarvo on February 28, 2009, 07:45:07 AM
That's some good LE work that you've done on the train station, Dustin.  It looks like the sports complex is starting to shape up, and I know it will be first-class when it is done.  The truth is, from what I've seen, that it may practically be there already.

 &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Scarton on February 28, 2009, 08:19:37 AM
You're really trying to make everything detailed and you're doing a far better job of it than I could. ;D :thumbsup: &apls Incredible work! Great job with the Lot Editor.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on February 28, 2009, 09:15:30 AM
 &apls &apls Yep , great work with the LE . you put some great detail that i never think of it . Looking forward
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on February 28, 2009, 10:27:07 AM
Nice teaser there! And again wonderful pictures of your great LE-work! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on February 28, 2009, 11:55:15 AM
Dustin, this picture is Wow -- The trees used are going perfectly with the others ones.
Great use of fillers lots my friend.
As for the CNIT, It looks very promising !

Arthur.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Battlecat on February 28, 2009, 10:19:32 PM
Looking good!  Nice selection of trees you're using!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on February 28, 2009, 10:23:35 PM
Dustin you are sooo soo bad driving Robin to drink lol geeezzs  ;D  But the picture wow!!! AMAZING!!! The progress on the cnit is also looking very good...
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on March 01, 2009, 12:09:31 AM
Excellent pic of the sports area, Dustin. Overall, the plaza is a successful combination of elements that work well together. The trees look really good - natural in both style and placement. As for lot editing, it's still on the "To-Do" list, but I just might take tomorrow off and fire it up!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: CasperVg on March 01, 2009, 12:17:17 AM
Hello again,

I always get a great feeling when I take a look at Marathon again. I must say I'm delighted seeing those lots, they look great. They seem to be very lively, and yet not crowded, and you have managed to get a nice set of colours together. I'm looking forward to see the culmination of all your work.

Casper
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [03/01/09]: UPDATE XXIV: A Bridge is Only as...
Post by: thundercrack83 on March 01, 2009, 01:58:36 AM
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metarvo: Thanks, my friend! I'm glad you like the train station, so far. It's starting to come together a bit better, and I'm as of now, I'm quite pleased. As for the sports complex, well, that's coming along, too!

citycapitalizer: Thank you so much!

kimcar: Hi, there! Thank you for your kind words!

bat: Thanks!

Arthur (art128): Thank you, Arthur! Your comments are always appreciated!

Battlecat: Thank you so much!

Pat: Ha! Yes, poor Robin! He was having a great night, though, so I can't blame him! I haven't heard from him at all today, so I hope he didn't have too bad of a hangover! Thanks for stopping by, my friend!

Joan (Jmouse): Thank you, Joan! One forewarning on opening up the LE, though—it's pretty addictive, once you get the hang of it! Good luck!

Casper (caspervg): Hi, Casper! Great to see you again! I'm glad you like the lots, too. Hope all is well with you, and I hope to see you again soon! Take care!




UPDATE XXIV
A Bridge is Only as Strong as its Supports
1 March 2009

Way back on Page 39, our very good friend Matt (threestooges) said...

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I do have one critique of it though. The span design looks like it's too long to effectively support the bridge. If you consolidated a track or two in the middle and allowed for a few pieces with pillars it would help the realism in my opinion.


...when referring to...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2022/22018.jpg)

...the bridge that allows the L'Anneau de Marathon to cross the rail lines heading to the station.

Well, Matt—your critique is dead-on, my friend, and once again, thanks to you folks here, something that I never even thought about was brought to my attention and we're able to correct it! It's not a hard fix by any means, but I thought I'd document it for posterity.

Our first step...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2024/24001.jpg)

...is to bulldoze the old set-up!

Then...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2024/24002.jpg)

...I must flatten...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2024/24003.jpg)

...the older slopes, since the current grade of the slope is insufficient for our needs. I've used the mountain setting of the NHP Ennedi Slope Mod (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1512) in order to balance the need for a bit of a steeper grade against the concept of realism.

Now, like the first time...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2024/24004.jpg)

...we connect the rails to the station, creating the slope, doing so...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2024/24005.jpg)

...with the rest of the rail lines.

With the first slope in place, we move on to the next slope, but first...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2024/24006.jpg)

...we extend the level section a bit to accommodate the next slope. And...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2024/24007.jpg)

...there it is!

But we're no further than we were before we started, we just have the same result with a bit of a steeper grade. So...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2024/24008.jpg)

...we delete the middle two sections of the track. We then...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2024/24009.jpg)

...connect the rails coming out of the two tunnels with the adjacent rail lines that head to the station. We do it at the tunnel, as shown above, as well as...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2024/24010.jpg)

...at the station.

This gets us to the heart of this exercise...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2024/24011.jpg)

...the avenue bridge! Now, it has support sections in the middle where the two rail lines formerly ran, giving support to the rather lengthy bridge.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2024/24012.jpg)

Above is the finished bridge. Note that there is a slight tip on the top section of the avenue bridge, since the station-side tile is technically the first tile of the slope. Oh, well—price you pay!

Finally, we...

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2024/24013.jpg)

...add a few rail pillars to spice things up!

Here's a zoomed-out view:

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Update%2024/24014.jpg)

Well, there it is! Now I have to figure out what to do with the strip of land where the rail lines used to be on the slopes, but that's another day, I suppose.

Oh, and staying in the area, more development on the surrounding lots for the train station—

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/thundercrack83/MARATHON/Random/058.jpg)

Haven't added any people yet, but I'm feeling better about the area, the more I work on it.

I extend special thanks to Matt (threestooges) for posing the question for this update, as well as Piotr (Sheep49), who asked a similar question. Without these kinds of critiques and ideas, who knows where we'd be, right!

More from Marathon in a bit!
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Sheep49 on March 01, 2009, 03:31:06 AM
Hmmm, I've just realised that this station reminds me of something that I would build in another classic game... Transport Tycoon Deluxe, anyone? :D

Anyways, glad to see that ours (visitors of your MD) comments and propositions are so well received and that they're helpful ;) Good work with those supports, Dustin. Oh, and also have I just realised those trees at the sides of Station on the second picture. They look really nice, too! :thumbsup:

And the lot at the end of the update is no less than totally awesome! If it's that great now, I'm wondering how WOW-astic is it going to be with people! &apls

What more can I say? Keep up the great work!
Piotr
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: art128 on March 01, 2009, 05:09:20 AM
Hey Dustin, this new version looks excellent my friend, excellent work.
The bridge looks more realistic with those pillars there.
And the CNIT looks promisingly great !  :thumbsup:

Arthur.  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: threestooges on March 01, 2009, 05:23:13 AM
Well, if you fancy a go at slope conforming props, I'd say add a few billboards facing the tracks. Seems like an interesting place to advertise. Also, I'm not sure of their slope conforming capabilities, but could David's long parallel switches smooth out the transition? Or, if you wanted to, you could extend the track from the station to the bridge and have it switch in just before the pillars (even just havng the outer ones (facing us) remain. They would essentially 'vault' over and support both roads in theory. Or you could leave it as is, it looks pretty good like that. Been a while since I commented here, but rest assured, I'm usually lurking. Great work as always my friend.
-Matt
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: bat on March 01, 2009, 08:00:25 AM
Nice work on that railway and the train station looks nice, too! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: kimcar on March 01, 2009, 08:35:12 AM
Right Matt had a good point about the bridge, and you fixed very well :thumbsup:. As your layout on the last screen  &apls &apls Excellent look.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Scarton on March 01, 2009, 08:41:39 AM
Nice work! I would never have putted the extra support in the bridge just for realism. Way to go the extra mile! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: ;D &apls ;).
I guess I need to focus more on realism in my cities. (and I thought I was being realistic.) $%Grinno$% Thanks for showing me.
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Battlecat on March 01, 2009, 09:58:51 AM
Nice touch putting in that extra support for the bridge.  It really does improve the appearance. 
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: sim-al2 on March 01, 2009, 10:09:29 AM
Howabout a plaza between the tracks for train-watchers? ;)

BTW, your station lot at the end is the best yet. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: dsrwhat316 on March 01, 2009, 10:53:55 AM
I'm pretty amazed at how far your lotting skills have come in such a short time, Dustin. The gardens surrounding the CNIT give the area a very high-wealth feel to it. The only critique I have (sorry!) is that the transition from the tile texture to the cobblestone texture is not gradual enough. A border overlay texture would make the transition a bit easier on the eyes :thumbsup:.

It seems I have been posting here more than my own MD! I think it is time for me to get back to work...  :-\

~ Dan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: deathtopumpkins on March 01, 2009, 02:30:49 PM
That looks much more realistic, Dustin.  :thumbsup: Glad you did that, and as for the question of what to do with the strip of land in the middle, I'd just fill it in with plain grass.

And that lot is looking REALLY nice!  &apls
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Pat on March 01, 2009, 04:43:53 PM
dang Dustin that is way better what you did to give a support to the bridge there!!!  Now far as the empty land what about having maybe a park area to match up with the CNIT?  Speaking of the CNIT have you thought about having a release?
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Haljackey on March 01, 2009, 10:02:39 PM
Looking good!   That's a much more realistic overpass with the central support, and that triangle-shaped stadium is looking rad too!  Nice work!

Best,
-Haljackey
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon
Post by: Jmouse on March 01, 2009, 10:50:34 PM
Hey Dustin, I agree completely with Matt who continues "Bridging the Gap" for us. :) The bridge does look 100% better with the extra support. The parting of the rails looks a bit unnatural to me, though, although I hate to even mention it since I'm in no position to propose a better arrangement. But maybe Matt's idea of using a less-abrupt transition would work.

One of the things I like best about Marathon is your ability - and willingness - to accept ideas, add a twist of your own and find workable solutions. So keep on truckin'! :thumbsup:

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Commonwealth of Marathon [03/02/09]: UPDATE XXV: Deep in the Heart...
Post by: thundercrack83 on March 02, 2009, 03:58:42 AM
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Piotr (Sheep49): Hi, Piotr! For me, input from everyone is the backbone of Marathon! If it weren't for you and everyone who visits here, I'm sure that things would not be where they are now. Thank you so much for all your support and your suggestions, my friend!

Arthur (art128): Thank you, Arthur! I'm glad you liked it!

Matt (threestooges): Hey, Matt! Thanks so much for your suggestions, my friend! I definitely like your idea with putting billboards in between the rails! Excellent idea, my friend! And I will further investigate your other ideas and see what I can come up with. Take care!

bat: Thanks!

kimcar: Thank you very much!

citycapitalizer: Thank you! Realism is one of those things that is hard to get away from, it seems. I don't go out of my way to make things more realistic, I just try to find a balance between something that is realistic, but also something that looks "right" or good in the game. Sometimes, you run into a stalemate, and other times, with the help of great friends like I have here, you can make a few adjustments and get somewhere you hadn't even thought of going! Thanks for stopping by!

Battlecat: Thank you so much, my friend!

sim-al2: Thank you! I like your idea with a plaza between the tracks, but there's just one thing: How will the people get down there? Take care!

Dan (dsrwhat316): Thank you, Dan! You are right about the abrupt transition between the two textures. I was searching for a solution, but I didn't come up with anything. Maybe I'll just have to search harder! Hope to see you again soon!

deathtopumpkins: Thanks! I'm leaning towards grass with a few trees and perhaps the billboards suggested by Matt above, but ultimately, we'll see what happens! Take care!

Pat: Thank you, my friend! As for releasing the CNIT, I don't think it's in any shape to pass through the scrutiny that our wonderful LEX demands. It's certainly something to look into, though. Good to see you!

Haljackey: Thanks!

Joan (Jmouse): Thank you, Joan! I tend to agree with you on the parting of the rails, too, but due to the land constraints that I'm working with—between the trench and slope—there's not much room to work with. I will say, though, that I'm not done investigating things there. Who knows how it will turn out in the end! It's always great to see you here, my friend! Take care!




UPDATE XXV
Deep in the Heart of Textures...
2 March 2009

Another update so soon?

What can I say? Those creative juices are flowing! OK, maybe not "creative," but there's definitely something flowing, just not sure what. Anyway, let's move on!

While it's been classified as an official "update," the following is more of a poll. I've been playing around with the textures for the train station lots and I said to myself, "Self—why don't we see