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Title: Identifying missing dependencies
Post by: Sorengaard on May 10, 2010, 12:00:48 AM
In using the Lot Editor Element of the SC4PIM I wanted to edit a lot that I didnít know what Dependencies the lot used. So I didnít know what Prop Files to put in the Plugin file. When I open the Dependencies Listing in the exemplar section it identifies those props that are in the plugin file. But those that aren't in the plugin file show a number (TGI? I donít know what kind of number it is) and then says "not found".  Is there any way to determine what these missing Dependencies for a particular Lot are without loading every prop file individually.  Thanks for any help.  Steve
Title: Re: Identifying missing dependencies
Post by: tag_one on May 10, 2010, 12:19:02 AM
Have you checked the Readme that came with the lot? 
Title: Re: Identifying missing dependencies
Post by: thingfishs on May 10, 2010, 01:43:14 AM
I think you can use SC4Tool for that.
Title: Re: Identifying missing dependencies
Post by: Sorengaard on May 10, 2010, 04:24:12 AM
The SC4Tool worked fine for the Dependencies (Props).  So I can strike that off my list.  But I still cannot get the building to show up.  If I can find that in SC4Tool I couldnít figure out how.  Nor could I figure it out in iLive Reader (not the newest version, I am having problems downloading it).  So off to the Read Me file.

It happens to be CO$$8_2x3_Colbalt_Square_Birmingham_RC_35d47f36 but it could be any of the other offices.  I got it from the LEX DVD from the CAM Commercial Offices (CAM CO) listed under Commercials.  The Read Me says ďA set of 53 lots that have all been updated using the X_Tool using BATs by ks_jon, frogface, ill_tonkso and jestarr. ď  And ďAll the needed models are in the Dependencies folder.Ē  A chore if I have to do each file individually.

Since four names are listed I suppose that should give me a more manageable beginning.  Now I guess I have to figure out what Props are made by each of these four names.  Since they donít appear to match the names listed in the DVD Dependencies file I will try and do some detective work. When I load my own Dependencies File into LotEditor the building shows up (0x35d47f36--CO$$82x3ColbaltSquare) I just had hoped there would be a way to find it without going through each file.

If anyone has any other suggestions as to how I would find where the building for a lot is located it would greatly be appreciated.  Maybe I am just not seeing the forest for the trees so to speak and making something much more difficult than it should be but I donít know how else to find them.  Thanks again,  Steve
Title: Re: Identifying missing dependencies
Post by: BarbyW on May 10, 2010, 06:26:04 AM
The answer to your problem is in the CAMelots - Linking all available lots and BATs (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2039.msg59860#msg59860)

The model file you need for the building is NDEX ITS MEGA Props Vol09 which is on the DVD in Dependencies\Model and Texture Packs non BSC\NDEX ITS.

Title: Re: Identifying missing dependencies
Post by: Sorengaard on May 10, 2010, 08:47:49 AM
Thanks so much for all the help. I take it then that there is no way to get this information except by a list or a Read Me of some kind. My interest wasn't so much for this particular lot but how the tools work, in particular SC4PIM. It appears that the need to be attentive to the documentation that comes with downloads is most important. Something I probably haven't been to the degree I should. Once again thanks for all the help.  Steve
Title: Re: Identifying missing dependencies
Post by: BarbyW on May 10, 2010, 09:35:46 AM
Regarding the tools available, neither iLive's Reader nor Sc4Tool will identify the model required for a lot. SC4PIM will identify the building model but as you found out without the model file in plugins, whether in a pack or individually, it cannot help either. The problem is that running SC4PIM with too many plugins will cause it to slow down or freeze even on a high end machine.

The Readme - not the ones on the DVD - for a download is the vital piece of information normally. For the DVD the Readmes were shortened as all the Dependencies were either included or referenced on the External Dependencies page.