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Started by Badsim, January 17, 2007, 02:14:19 PM

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metarvo

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Car scaling can be kind of tricky.  Of course, it goes without saying that the Maxis cars (how did we ever make it with those) are tiny, but I still believe Girafe's cars are the gold standard out there.  Good call on the color selection, it works here too; if I just eyeball the cars going down a busy road, the vast majority will be black, white, red, or burgundy (simply a dark shade of red).  The same result is apparent on Google Maps, too; mostly black, white, and red.  Silver and grey show up a lot too, along with dark bronze/champagne.  The exceptions, for me anyway, are small cars and sports cars, which might get oranges and bright blues and the like.

Nice update, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year!  :thumbsup:
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art128

In my opinion, Jim's automata are the absolute best at the moment. Nice job resizing them! It actually looks pretty amazing with bigger cars now.

Curious to know how they look on parking lots. I assume we will have to create new textures to fit them.
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fantozzi

I'm deeply impressed how much realism this adds - everthing seems so much more right - even sims now look 'normal sized'.

Merry christmas to you too.

matias93

My only sensation now is: how is that I didn't note how underscaled automata were on all those years playing SC4?

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but it is to meet the social needs of man and the development of the society"

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mattb325

Seeing the automata correctly scaled on the Z axis certainly lends weight to the claims that the Sims (and only some of the other game elements) were scaled at the last minute just prior to the release of the game to promote the Sims Franchise.

reddonquixote

These look amazing, adds a lot more realism to the streetscape - I too never really noticed how tiny the maxis cars are.

That bumper to bumper city traffic is making me wince though  :D
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Girafe

Fabulous work Cedric  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Looks much more realistic and I am pretty sure people would love getting their hands on them.

Have a Merry Christmas my friend  ;)
The Floraler

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Themistokles

Interesting aspect and incredible work in turning that idea into reality. My worry is how they will fit in the streets, the way the roads look crammed.
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Akallan

Wow, it's really more beautiful and realistic! You should release a mod like this, using the same vehicles! &apls &apls And happy Christmas! :)
My CJ :


My european road textures project : S N T - v.2.1

Badsim

Thanks !  :thumbsup:

Two months later ( or something like 350 hours of work ... ) I'm finally ready to present you my Automata Revolution Chapter 1 : Beautiful as a truck ! ...  euro trucks replacement and additional models for Jim's trucks automata .

1  -  Classical ones ; most of them are french ( but from international transportation companies ... ) , a few others are from Quebec or other european countries .

01 E.Leclerc Fuel


02 Total


03 Dyneff


04 Asia Center


05 Brandsource


06 CrocBox


07 Déménageurs Bretons


08 WWF


09 Monster Energy Drink


10 Despi Caterer


11 Red Bull Energy Drink


12 Pomona Passion Froid


13 Norbert Dentressangle


14 Picard


15 Grand Frais


16 Toupargel


17 Miko


18 Miko Relais d'Or


19 Pasquier


20 Transpolaire


21 Ben & Jerry's


22 Geodis/Calberson


23 Metro


24 Milles


25 Hertz


26 Intermarché Rental


27 MultiRecycle


28 Chronopost International


29 Transiberica


30 TNT


31 Burn Energy Drink


32 EuroTransPharma


33 Robert


34 Interflora


35 ADM


36 Carrefour Rental


37 Sernam


38 STEF


39 Decathon


40 Le Relais


41 Lactalis ( with a personal pun in french , related to recent events ... )


42 Jammet


43 Gefco


44 FlexaTrans


45 FedEx


46 Demeco


47 Jacob Primeurs


48 Gondrand


49 Mazet


50 Europcar Rental


51 Demenager Seul


52 Rondeau Caterer


53 VIP Caterer


54 Légaré Rental


55 Street Courses


56 La Poste , regular version


57 Petit Forestier Rental


58 Fraikin Rental


59 Sud Primeurs


60 NTT 1


61 NTT 2


62 Simelio


63 Liefer Service


64 Amazon Prime


65 Promocash


66 Carrefour


67 Olano


68 Dachser


69 Delanchy


70 E.Leclerc combustibles


71 Cool Liner


72 Alloin


73 Kuehne + Nagel


74 Sylvain & Co.


75 Poissonerie Côtes Catalanes


76 Ageneau


77 Fruehauf


78 Delifresh


79 Primafrio


80 Orly Gel


81 Frais de la Ferme


82 La Poste , Star Wars livery


83 Ilios


84 Doyon


85 Bisson Experts


86 C-Roy


87 Univers Maçonnerie


88 France Express


89 Geodis


90 Intermarché


91 Danielou


92 STAFF


93 Simply Market


94 Lidl


95 Coca Cola


96 L.Kim


97 Pelforth


98 Heineken


99 Hillebrand


100 Darty


101 Jost Group


102 DHL


103 Waberer's


104 Duval


105 ASVA


106 Jacquemmoz


107 Rent And Drop


108 Thiriet


109 Trazit


110 LKW Walter


111 Chereau


112 Sofrilog


113 Enterprise Rental


114 ExpoZ


115 Food Truck


116 Fruth Group


117 Milka


118 Butagaz



119 Cledor Primeurs


120 Goessens


121 Mory Ducros




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2 - Special editions :


121 NAM Truck ...


123 Ikea , that one is fictive ( from an advertising )


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125 Pinder circus trucks , using one of Gobanboshi Japanese Art Trucks model...


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127 Truck 1


128 Truck 2


129 Samsung Safety Truck


130 ... with video screens adapted when this truck drives on an SC4 avenue ...


131 Astre Palet System , just in case you would think « Too many trucks ! »


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136 And , finally , ProBoy Nick's  Truck , a tribute to Nikita Golubev , artist ... and poet !


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Considering the amount of pictures , just 5 pics to see them in game :

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For testing purposes , all are currently Moded to be generated by commercial zoning , but of course ,  a lot of them will be at the end Moded as industrial trucks . I can spend 10 minutes - and more , just looking at my SC4 urban traffic , waiting for a particular vehicle to appear . The next chapter will be devoted to vans and revamped vehicles , again , tens of things to show ... the third chapter will be devoted to motorcycles ( Have had so good surprises with them ...) and the massive Moding coming along with these visual works to finally get  the perfect european traffic I dreamed of since always . Then , will come the discussion to define if the community is willing to switch to that new standard ; it has its inconveniences like the fact that only HD car props can be adjusted to the new sizes ( There's a resized car from Girafe car pack vol.4 parked in front of Emerald Plaza , so you can judge ... ) and , indeed , no current parking texture matches them . So you can also forget SAM-1 Parking Textures ... I can extract hundreds of perfect props from these automata ( ortho , 22°5 , 45° , 67,5° or any other angle) and I'm able to create corresponding parking textures but it's gonna take ages ( ... plus , I'll be , for RL reasons , inactive from March to October , like every year .) Well , despite all these inconveniences I personally won't come back to Maxis standard . No way  $%Grinno$% , and , to tell you the truth , I wouldn't understand that you don't want to pay the same attention to the realism of automata than to the quality of BATs , HD trees , props , terrain/highways/railways textures and so on ... but no need to speed that discussion up from now .

See you next week for chapter 2.

C.

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mattb325

Brilliant!
I am so excited to see the possibility of automata that is Z-scaled in line with the rest of the game (between 133% and 160%)

feyss

That's a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot of trucks  :D

Awesome and impressive job so far!

fantozzi

How much I did learn about geography and culture from SC4 modders! Didn't know until yet there is a star wars livery of french post - they have even r2-d2 like post boxes? And the cow on the lactalis truck - can't help, but with the slogan she looks half salmonella to me or at least little sick. Great artwork.

This is a truely amazing work. So much details and artistry quotes and variety in a single post. Amazing, amazing. Ah, and did I mention already this is amanzing?   

Girafe

Awesome job you have done there Cedric.
Indeed automatas have been quite left behind compared to the development of NAM, HD BATs, seasonal flora...
And what a surprise to see you with a tons of French liveries for different trucks, you will never stop to amaze me  &apls &apls &apls
The Floraler

This is the end, hold your breath and count to ten, feel the earth move, and then...

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Seaman

wonderful!

I really like the truck with the NAM livery! That's a nice gag nod.

oh, and the truck with the cool artist painting on it is awesome. Thanks for both: the truck and the info and pictures about Nikita Golubev.

Quote from: Badsim on February 25, 2018, 01:45:24 PM
Well , despite all these inconveniences I personally won't come back to Maxis standard . No way  $%Grinno$% , and , to tell you the truth , I wouldn't understand that you don't want to pay the same attention to the realism of automata than to the quality of BATs , HD trees , props , terrain/highways/railways textures and so on ... but no need to speed that discussion up from now .
tbh, the old scale didn't stand out to my eye (yet). But on the other hand, in my early days of SC4, I didn't care for slope mods neither (and I will definitely not go back to that time, ever!), so I will not trust my own judgement here. If you walk down the way to realism in SC4, it seems to be a one-way street.


belfastsocrates

This is incredibly exciting!! I'm also loving the obvious love lavished on Euro-style trucks and cars for the HD automata!

Fantastic work
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Quote from: mattb325 on February 25, 2018, 02:46:19 PM

I am so excited to see the possibility of automata that is Z-scaled in line with the rest of the game (between 133% and 160%)

Thanks Matt , I'm currently around 140% so , I guess , I could try an higher value ( when one of the highest sims , as  pedestrian , crosses over that intersection through a truck , I can see his head still overhanging the cabin  $%Grinno$% ... but most probably I would encounter problems of compatibility and coherence with some other stuff , so I think that's a good compromise . ;)

Quote from: feyss on February 25, 2018, 04:04:54 PM
That's a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot of trucks  :D

Awesome and impressive job so far!

Thanks , and glad you like them all ...I could create tens of more trucks that we still wouldn't be close to reality ... in fact I stopped to create new skins  when it became rare to see twice the same truck in the same picture . I hate repetitions ... ;D

Quote from: fantozzi on February 26, 2018, 12:48:29 AM

How much I did learn about geography and culture from SC4 modders! Didn't know until yet there is a star wars livery of french post - they have even r2-d2 like post boxes? And the cow on the lactalis truck - can't help, but with the slogan she looks half salmonella to me or at least little sick ...
 

Thank you , :thumbsup:  I did learn so much too ( and still learn almost daily something ) with SC4 community ... about the postal truck , Star Wars editions , I found these liveries :

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To release them all is on my to-do list . And , indeed , Lactalis' livery evokes salmonella : « Faire les malins » meaning « be a smartass » , « les » being replaced by « lait » ( having the same pronunciation ) which means « milk » ... well , haven't the feeling to be perfectly clear , but I hope that you'll get the idea !  ::)

Quote from: Girafe on February 26, 2018, 02:38:31 AM

Indeed automatas have been quite left behind compared to the development of NAM, HD BATs, seasonal flora...
And what a surprise to see you with a tons of French liveries for different trucks, you will never stop to amaze me  ...


Thank you  Antoine , glad to be still able to surprise you  ;D , and thanks for the K-point ( ... but we should stop to regularly credit each other with K-points before it looks like some cronyism for the community ...  $%Grinno$% )

Quote from: Seaman on February 26, 2018, 04:31:03 AM

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tbh, the old scale didn't stand out to my eye (yet). But on the other hand, in my early days of SC4, I didn't care for slope mods neither (and I will definitely not go back to that time, ever!), so I will not trust my own judgement here. If you walk down the way to realism in SC4, it seems to be a one-way street.


Thank you .  :thumbsup: That's a one-way indeed . But as long as we have challenges like that one , this game will stay alive . ;) ( Accordingly to that sentence , I should die first . :D )

Quote from: belfastsocrates on February 26, 2018, 04:46:52 AM
This is incredibly exciting!! I'm also loving the obvious love lavished on Euro-style trucks and cars for the HD automata!


Thanks for your enthusiasm !  :thumbsup:



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Chapter two is late but in the pipeline , I need still to edit tens of pictures and that's a veryyyyyy boring task ! And so it would be great to turn that page before , just one more post needed ... in the meanwhile , I've started to extract pops from these automata with , as usual , new ideas coming in mind to test promptly :

06 LKW Walter truck , back doors open


07 LKW Walter truck , partially cleaned


08 Express LOT editing ...



I'm always incredulous in front of the quality of these props extracted from automata ( a true 3D model having a single FSH ) , so much possibilities , even if you're not a BATer as long as you respect the UV map of the model ( S3D file ) ... and so little time . :(

C.


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feyss

I also hate repetitions, but who doesn't? :D

Great idea with the open back doors. The last picture is very good, even if it's just a picture "for showing work in progress".

kbieniu7

Wow  :o How did you find enough time to do all of it? :D
Thank you for visiting Kolbrów, and for being for last ten years!

mattb325

Amazing - I love the extra trucks.  :thumbsup:

And you are quite right about the potential for over-scaling automata...they have to fit in under 7.5m network pieces &hlp