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Come and Convince us and Yourself........

We are about to start the next GRV challenge the second generation (if you don't know what this is, have a look HERE first),  http://www.simtropolis.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=36&threadid=96453&STARTPAGE=1   , and I, mrb, am a bit confused where to home-post it this year. It is just a matter of pleasing the majority of you all that I ask this on Simtropolis and on SC4Devotion.
My wife Lynncanox and I have been asked to create another multiplayerstyle CJ Challenge like the GRV(Grand River Valley Challenge) ever since we stopped the first challenge on ST, but the problem is that several members from both sites have been asking us to post it on their site. This tears us up a little since we equally like both sites and it is hard to decide which.
Anyways, here is what I'll do, I will count the positive polls on both sites and whichever has the most in the next 10 days *will get the contract*. (one vote per member only please) I think that this will be fair enough and we hope, even if the GRV II  Challenge will not be on your favourite site, that you come and enjoy it with us all, it will be as much fun here or there.

This will be posted on both sites, SC4Devotion and Simtropolis.

Thanks.

Lynncanox and mrbisonm

Stupid question, but why not host it on both sites, pleasing everyone ?
Yes it might take you a bit more of work, but I know you're happily visiting both :)
Moreover, it will require banning from both sites to have the challenge halted, such a case ( the banning from both sites ) will only happen if you actively look for it IMO ( and I doubt you'll do that :) )

That would mean every entrant posting on both sites which, owing to the difference in forum software, is not straightforward, especially with lots of images to display. 

Edit: stickied the topic for ya  :thumbsup:

I am pretty sure you are going to get 99% "on [insert site here]" votes on that particular site tbh.

Why not set up a middle ground?

Joe

Yeah, I vote here, we are a lovely bunch.  But honestly, I'm just glad to see you doing this again.  :thumbsup:

Quote from: callagrafx on February 03, 2009, 01:18:50 AM
That would mean every entrant posting on both sites which, owing to the difference in forum software, is not straightforward, especially with lots of images to display. 

Edit: stickied the topic for ya  :thumbsup:

What I meant, is running on both, allowing people to post where they want
But well, you know my vote :)

It sounds like fun. I would like to participate, especially if its up on SC4D. Either way you choose, it's a great idea.

If it is here I would consider playing this time.  If it's at the other place, forget about it.  Takes too long to load.

Robin  :)

Quote from: wouanagaine on February 03, 2009, 02:18:26 AM
What I meant, is running on both, allowing people to post where they want
But well, you know my vote :)

That's right, give Fred an even bigger logistical challenge  :D :D

I'd be rather interested in participating in this. It looks fun, and since I didn't take part in the original GRV, it will be a pretty nice and interesting challenge for me. Oh, and I prefer it to be in the SC4D to be honest, since ST works far too slow. But the idea to host it on both sides is also good, I guess.

So yeah, I'm interested in this, especially if this will be on SC4D, or both sites.
Piotr

BTW, my first post since 26th Dec 2008 XD

Hello MrB,

I made my vote.... I am sure you can guess what I voted....  ::) ... but regardless of the final result of the poll, I felt the need to say you thanks for keeping the game and the community alive and fresh after so much time  :thumbsup:

Always nice to hear from you ;)

Mrbisonm,

You probably don't know me, but I know and appreciate your work. The GRV challenge is very interesting event, it's first edition was performed very good. It would be a pleasure for many of SC4D members to be able to take part in it here at SC4D.

But I have a suggestion: I understand you like both sites. I like them too, and a few others in addition  :) But counting votes is a bit... from another story  ;)
Maybe you could simply think, where your activity will be more pleasant and comfortable for you, and then decide?

Adam

Thanks for the comments, it'll surely help me to decide where to post this challenge. I see that there is a slight competitional problem with the two sites for some, which shouldn't be. I can understand it though. But that aside.......
....I would like to make something straight here for you all to understand. I don't know if you had a good look at the first GRV Challenge on ST, but this is a lot of work to handle, organize, create the statistics, see the errors and control. My wife, Lynn, and I have spent sometimes up to 3 hrs a day just to judge, look at and think of the next challenge. Imagine doing this on both sites?
I hope that you weren't serious wouanagaine when you said that it was a stupid question. I am sure you don't realize the work involved in doing such a multiplayer challenge. La question n'est pas stupide du tout!
We do this for fun and as soon as stress will be involved , it will simply be stopped from our behalf. I have 3 buissnesses to take of in real life and my wife one, which is enough stress for us. This challenge is supposed to be fun for everyone, nothing else but PURe FUN, and that includes both of us also.
For those who I don't know, don't worry, I'll get to know you quick enough... ;)
And hey jeronij, thank you for the kind works, the encouragment and the welcome.
callagrafx , thanks for making it a sticky.

Thanks again for participating.

mrb

I think most of us understand you very well. RL is very demanding for many of us, and preparing MD updates, tutorials or new custom content is sometimes very stressfull and extremely time consuming - although we do it with pleasure, because we make it for others.

One thing you can be sure: if you will decide to organize GRV here at SC4D, you will have no problem with finding people to help you if you will need it  :thumbsup:

Adam

Quote from: Ennedi on February 03, 2009, 11:50:52 AM
One thing you can be sure: if you will decide to organize GRV here at SC4D, you will have no problem with finding people to help you if you will need it  :thumbsup:

Not to mention the backing of the staff  :thumbsup:

SC4D, period.

Edit : Removed non needed comments ~wouanagaine~

GRV, you say?  Having this on both sites probably would be good in the long run, although I did use my judgment to make a vote.  I would participate on either site, though.

OK I must confess here something what in the world is GRV???  I know Ive been around but I have no clue what you are all talking about here honestly but it sounds great though!!!

Hi MrB ..

GRV was one of the Simtropolis bright spots last year. Hmmm. Should I play? I do ok with rural country side regions but if I build a large city? You'll see I can't play worth a darn.   :D   :'(    :o

I wish you the best this year and look forward to the results.

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@ Pat. GRV is short for Grand River Valley. It is a competition (more or less) where several people play the same region. Are given goals and MrB and his wife are the judges. Follow the link in the first post. And by the way - I think you should play. I'd be very interested to see how one of our more (or less) famous members plays the game.

Thank you Jim and I just might put Waterfalls on the back burner to work on GRV if it was to be done again... Might being the keyword here as I would have to really work on building Villages and Towns... I am more nature lol... BTW me more or less famous naw  $%Grinno$% I cant be that.... 

OK so Fred after reviewing the GRV thread @ ST I have to say I am impressed by it and I think it would be great to have it run on both sites... I would suggest however common judges to assist you and Lynn at both sites. I mean like say example of say 2 per site... Then have a neutral meeting area where you all can get together and compare notes for the weeks judgement or however you work it from there...

my thoughts,

Patrick

Having this on both sites is impossible. Lynn won't participate for one and I cannot keep up with it. It took all my energy to convince my wife to help me out on one site.....lol. Taking another one or two with help could be a good idea, but then the judging will not be equal and just for all, because everyone has a different view on things and see things differently. Just have a look at the rating on the STEX, not one there that has the same idea of so called *excellent* uploads.

Anyways, it looks good for SC4D to have GRV II this year, maybe next year it will be ST again.

Ennedi and callagrafx , I am sure I will find more help here than anywhere else, and it probably can happen that I will ask for it.
Pat, glad you found the GRV thread and had a serious look at it. Nature is my favourite too, but this year there will be a small City challenge included, all depending on the size of map you all will choose.( Yeah, you read it right, *you will choose*)
GRV II will be a little different (maybe a little more than little.... &Thk/( ) and also easier (well.....kinda....), but most of all, it will be more fun and more participation will be needed (part of the challenge) It will not always be us (lynncanox/ mrb) who give the *commands*....huh? Oh yeah....I got some aces and surprizes up my sleeve this year.



jmyers2043 , well, I got a Trixie for the last GRV. I would like to see you in this.....could be interesting....... for all of us  ;)

Anyways, this site being faster loading, less *out of order* and offline for *we're doing things*, and with more people interested could make this Challenge quite amusing.


mrb

Edit : removed non nedeed comment

here please!

I'm looking forward to the GRVII, mrbisonm. And I'll already cast a vote for a massive map, the scale lets you build truly realistic towns and cities (not 3RR big, I'm not that crazy).

Cheers,
Kevin

I'm sure most of the votes you get here will be for SC4D, and ST for ST.

Since I'm active at both sites, I have given some thought into this.  I would say SC4D this time, mainly because of the site's performance in relation to ST.  It will be faster and more organized here, and you won't have to worry about the page flip bug.  Posters will be notified of developments when they check their unread replies so they won't miss a thing.  Perhaps you will get your own project thread similar to 3RR, RRP, or Buddybud's new project thread.

Until ST makes the jump to 6.0, SC4D is clearly the better choice.  It would get harder when ST does go to 6.0, depending on what is improved.

Just my two cents.  Good luck making a decision!

BigSlark , the choice maps will be only two different sizes this year, one larger 3x7 Medium tiles and a smaller version of 2x3 Medium tiles. I don't want to get larger than this, because many will find it too large to play on for a short period of time, nor will we find enough challenges to fill the region. Medium tiles were preferred by most of the players last year also, not everyone's computer can handle large tiles (blue). If this challenge lasts too long then we'll loose too many players with time, like last year, so we figured that the challenge will be finished by late spring/ early summer.
Also the regionplay this time will taken into consideration, but I cannot tell you right now why exactly. It will be GRV II'  s Theme for 2009.


Haljackey, I know you're active on both sites and most of us are, but voting on ST's Poll turned out to be three times more in favour for SC4D too......hm....not as you said ST will vote for ST and SC4D for SC4D.
Yes, I have been offered to get my own thread and also the moderating powers for that thread. It would be just perfect!
Although I have come almost everyday to SC4D for a few minutes since its beginnings, I still have to get used to this site in terms of posting and modifying etc. I'll learn and then I have to teach my wife....lol.  ;) I also have to get to know most of the members which do not come to ST regularily or under a different name. Most of you I remember from the good ol' days from ST.

mrb

UPDATE..........

The total Votes from both sites so far at this exact moment are:

Simtropolis.....................13
SC4Devotion..................72


...then again, the polls are not working at this time at ST, they say....

That is 13/73 now then.... I'd love to see that challenge here on SC4D, and might even consider participating in the contest in that case!

I've heard quite a bit of buzz about this competition. I don't get over to ST too often now, but I've seen your work there. I may be biased (heh heh), but I'd certainly love to see the second round here.
-Matt

Well, the way it goes on ST,(more votes for SC4D there also) this is going to be here. I said that I will take ten days for this poll, so I have no choice to wait.
Now, Where do I post this upcoming MD (CJ) Competition? With all the threads on SC4D and not used to navigate around here freely, I would like to have some help on this. Many questions will be asked until I fully understand how all these forums work.

Thanks

mrb

When you are ready to start, we will set up a special forum for you in the SC4D Projects Board - where 3RR and the Rural Renewal Project are to be found. If you send a PM to one or all of the Admins with the title you would like we will do the rest and make you Moderator for your project.

Thanks BarbyW, when this is over I'll send you a PM. Much appreciated.

mrb  ;)

Quote from: mrbisonm on February 09, 2009, 09:20:30 AM
Well, the way it goes on ST,(more votes for SC4D there also) this is going to be here.

Well.....The Final Results are in:


Simtropolis:...............14
SC4Devotion:.............88

Thank you all for the vote participation and hope to see you all in the CJ/MD section to participate with the challenge.
I will contact a Moderator later this week to open the new thread.

Thank you again and let's all enjoy this challenge now on SC4Devotion this year. Good luck.

mrbisonm and lynncanox ;)

Excellent news  :thumbsup:

I am sure we all will enjoy your game mastering here at SC4D. Impatiently waiting for the project to start...  :-\  :-\  :-\  ;)

This is good news, and welcome to your new home. 

Just sign here  "$Deal"$  here  "$Deal"$ and this big fat cheque here.  "$Deal"$

Quote from: Diggis on February 16, 2009, 09:18:12 AM
This is good news, and welcome to your new home. 

Just sign here  "$Deal"$  here  "$Deal"$ and this big fat cheque here.  "$Deal"$

Once you've signed... there is a PO Box in Occidental, CA where you should kindly mail the check.   :D

Not sure how much time I'll have to participate, but I did enjoy watching the last one develop.  I'm glad to hear it will be held here this time and I look forward to at least watching again!   :thumbsup:

JB

oh no, all that signing again........ ???

Thanks for the welcome.

mrb ;)

Quote from: JBSimio on February 16, 2009, 02:48:56 PM
Once you've signed... there is a PO Box in Occidental, CA where you should kindly mail the check.   :D

Not sure how much time I'll have to participate, but I did enjoy watching the last one develop.  I'm glad to hear it will be held here this time and I look forward to at least watching again!   :thumbsup:

JB

Did you just steal my bribe his voluntary donation?!?  :angrymore:

Quote from: Diggis on February 16, 2009, 09:18:12 AM
This is good news, and welcome to your new home. 

Just sign here  "$Deal"$  here  "$Deal"$ and this big fat cheque here.  "$Deal"$

The first one is signing over all your IP rights, the second gives him permission to repossess your house, and all your belongings in the period of the competition. The cheque, as stated above, was a bribe. :D

Shaun I hate to say it but I due surly think Jon did that  ;)  :D

BTW MrB when you get ready to start GRV II Let me know and I will make sure to do a special podcast just for you!!!!  I will verbalize all the rules and instructions and introduce all or who ever will be helping you and lynncanox...  Just give me the details and I will put it together!!!

Quote from: Diggis on February 17, 2009, 01:13:02 AM
Did you just steal my bribe his voluntary donation?!?  :angrymore:

No... no... not at all!  I was just going to invest and keep it safe on your behalf... :D

Thanks Pat, I'll do that. Now I am terribly sick with a Cold, nothing's moving, all I do is sleep....lol.


mrb

MrB you get better OK and yes that is a order lol....  Then once your better lets get the ball rolling OK!!!

@ Jon yea sure I believe that as much as well you know it enovles a bull hehheehe

Please get well quickly, Fred. I am anxiously awaiting the start of GRV 2.

Thanks, I am starting to feel a bit better. Darn cold, haven't had a severe one like this for many years........

Ok, I will be ready this weekend to start the thread , mostly an introduction, preparation and also we need some ideas. So I will pm BarbyW with the details and if she could please open a thread for me. See ya all there.....  :thumbsup:

mrb

Great news mrb.
Still not too sure if I will join in, but I am anxiously waiting to see how everyone else plays along.

Robin  :thumbsup:

Robin what do you say to a friendly wager???

Ok....it has started. You can see the introduction below.

http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=7035.0

I will show the maps in a day or two and you may choose. See ya all there.


mrb

When is the next GVR going to start and has this one finished?

Nope the current GRV II challenge is still going on... Far as when is the next one well hmm???