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Growing Empty Lots and How to Correct them

Started by RippleJet, April 02, 2007, 01:40:14 PM

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RippleJet

Quote from: SC4BOY on July 22, 2008, 05:56:45 AM
There's a report on ST that THIS FILE may be a problem.. though the "research" isn't complete yet

At least the fixed version of Richensia Jungdong Gold that altuditu uploaded the same day as the original one does not grow on empty lots.
It contains two growable residential lots and one static landmark.

The ploppable R§§§ landmark that was included in his original upload might very well have grown on empty lots though.
If anyone has got that one, I'd love to take a look at it.

xxdita

I think I can safely report that my problem lot is indeed one of the original lots for the Velascoma. Actually both the CO$$ and CO$$$ are Blank RCI's.

Here's the info:
Blank_CO$$                        Velacosma Associates CO$$_5139b2df.SC4Lot    jobs CO$$ 37721 
Velascoma Associates HQ     Velacosma Associates HQ_5139b078.SC4Lot        jobs CO$$$ 26383

jestarr

The Sunshine60 lot by Mozukuss (link is on the Japanese page) is made on a blank CS$$$ lot and has the building/prop family property set.

MAS71

#143
Hello RippleJet, xxdita and all.  :)
Just to make sure, I write Japanese Name here about each works when you need. ;)


サンシャイン60
Lot name  :  SUN SHINE60_d590ee8f.SC4Lot




大阪マルビル
Lot name  :  CS$$$_OsakaMarubiru_d5748cd0.SC4Lot
Quote from: Rayden on July 07, 2008, 12:26:00 PM
This is the one, linked above by SC4BOY







By the way.....

When we make a LOT "Landmark with Job", we(a lot of Japanese BATer) still using a "Corrected - RCI Blank Lot Set" which sharing on Ragtarou san's site "HIDE and Seek!!".
however, I found that it was not corrected for perfectly. :-[
(They were not yet deleted a property "Building/prop Family")
and I talked with him about this problem today, and he already re-update latest version "RCI-Blank Lot Set" now. ;)
Perhaps the works from Japan which had this problem will decrease in future.  :) (I hope it well !!)

and I sent PM to RippleJet san about that Lot-Set,
If you have free time, Please check them and tell me your advice, opinions or suggestions for them please. ;)


Thank you.

RippleJet

#144
Two recent STEX uploads by darknono35 have been added to the CO§§ list.
Note that, due to the included SAV file, the CNA Plaza might grow empty as Sears Tower. ::)

EDIT: One more upload by darknono35 was added today, the American International...

Quote from: RippleJet on April 02, 2007, 01:41:30 PM
CO$$


Building Exemplar Name
Jobs
   Container file where Building Exemplar can be found   Uploaded byCorrected /
Revisited by
40th Wall Street
5209
   LM7x4_40thWallStreet_7587b7e9.SC4Lotdarknono35
40th Wall Street
18754
   LM7x4_40thWallStreet_7587b7e9.savdarknono35
American International Building   
6423
   LM6x4_AmericanInternationalBuilding_15d014a8.SC4Lotdarknono35
American International Building
17854
   LM6x4_AmericanInternationalBuilding_15d014a8.savdarknono35
CNA Palza
8566
   LM6x5_ChicagoCNAplaza_95801c2e.SC4Lotdarknono35
Sears Tower
22314
   LM6x5_ChicagoCNAplaza_95801c2e.savdarknono35

RippleJet

Quote from: jestarr on July 23, 2008, 06:42:58 AM
The Sunshine60 lot by Mozukuss (link is on the Japanese page) is made on a blank CS$$$ lot and has the building/prop family property set.

Jestarr and MAS71-san, your report was made while I was on vacation,
and I never got back to adding the Sunshine 60 by mozukuss until today,
when Jayson (sithlrd98) informed me that his latest, the Shibuya 109, also grows on empty lots.

Thank you all for your help! Highly appreciated! &apls

bap

RippleJet, I found three lots that might grow on empty lots. They are part of the Pegasus-CDK-Industrial package (PEG_CDK-IND_205.dat):

    Examplar name                       IID
PEG-CDK Industrial (IC)            0D72EF3E
PEG-CDK Industrial Waterfront   6D746A0D
PEG-CDK Industrial Port            8D78B669

These lots have the following cohort property:

ParentCohort   0x05342861,0xA7BDDF17,0x80000023   

This makes those lots part of a Maxis industrial manufacturing building family (0x70000023). In order to avoid having them growing in empty industrial lots, I just filled the cohorts with zeros. No relevant property is lost with this. The other lots in the package are fine as they reference a basic park cohort file, which attaches to no building family.


Andreas

In "PEG-CDK_Warehouse-3x4_105.dat", the building exemplar file has this parent cohort as well. I had empty industrial lots growing now and then, quite likely that they were caused by the PEG-CDK lots. Thanks for the hint!
Andreas

SC4BOY

#148
Appears to be another one... don't see it mentioned elsewhere on a search

Ex. of the problem


According to my records the dl is titled MeijiLifeBuildingV2.zip with an internal date of 7/22/08  I dl'd it in Feb '09.

I was surprised it wasn't from the "Japan" thread, but I don't see it there, so I'm not sure when I got it. At any rate I have the zip if you want to look at it, but I'm sure it would be better if we had the download link. Here's a pic that comes packed with it for an image



If I can do anything further, let me know

sithlrd98

#149
APTX updated that one back in march dated (Sunday, ‎March ‎01, ‎2009, ‏‎5:57:04 AM) mainly to offer a grayish one...but the original does not show signs of a possible Empty Growable in reader that I remember.




http://www.maroon.dti.ne.jp/aptx/BAT/meiji_2.zip

Jayson

RippleJet

Quote from: SC4BOY on August 11, 2009, 04:49:02 PM
At any rate I have the zip if you want to look at it

Yes, please! I would like to take a look at MeijiLifeBuildingV2.zip as well.


Quote from: sithlrd98 on August 11, 2009, 06:03:28 PM
APTX updated that one back in march dated (Sunday, ‎March ‎01, ‎2009, ‏‎5:57:04 AM) mainly to offer a grayish one...but the original does not show signs of a possible Empty Growable in reader that I remember.

At least the grayish version you linked us to does grow on empty lots...
The file 8590_CO$$$_MeijiLifeBuilding_f619a984.SC4Lot contains a building exemplar belonging to the ingame building family 0x400000AB.

sithlrd98

#151
I must have been drinking when I posted that ;D The original does also reference 0x400000AB. This is one of those cases where I admit that I was wrong...it dose happen from time to time ;D

Jayson

I went ahead and sent it to you Tage.

BarbyW

Inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened. TP



Barbypedia: More alive than the original

sithlrd98

I appreciate that Barby...hopefully this won't happen again!  :-[

Jayson

RippleJet

Quote from: sithlrd98 on August 15, 2009, 01:15:29 PM
I went ahead and sent it to you Tage.

Thanks, Jayson! Added them both to the CO§§§ list. ;)
Now I should return to the other ones you told me about some time ago... :-[


Quote from: sithlrd98 on August 15, 2009, 01:27:12 PM
hopefully this won't happen again!  :-[

I wouldn't count on that... $%Grinno$% ...based on personal experience... ::)

SC4BOY

hmmm.. I may just be confused. I have the NOB lot (I 573 jobs) Seaport01_6ee5fece.SC4Lot which continues to pop up "empty growable"

I have downloaded the NOB Mega Packs 1,2 & 3 files on the LEX. I was under the impression that those files corrected this problem. Have I overlooked something?

I reran the "remove files" for all 3 and they say "not present" for all. Was this lot possibly overlooked in some way?

RippleJet

Quote from: SC4BOY on August 16, 2009, 01:27:34 AM
I have downloaded the NOB Mega Packs 1,2 & 3 files on the LEX. I was under the impression that those files corrected this problem. Have I overlooked something?

Those MEGA Packs only contain models and props.
The old lots by NOB have not been updated yet... we're still waiting for Nate to finally return from the car crash he had, and continue the valuable work he started.

SC4BOY

Thanks for the reply.. I had not heard about Nate.. I have been away from SC4 for about a year.. I certainly wish him a speedy recovery! The lot isn't really that big a deal.. just wanted to be sure I had not missed anything.

RippleJet

#158
Thanks to xxdita, bap, Andreas and (especially) Jayson, I've caught up on all reports so far...
I've also added the (hopefully) last ones made by darknono35. His newest ones do not grow on empty lots anymore. ;)

Quote from: RippleJet on April 02, 2007, 01:41:11 PM
CO$$$


Building Exemplar Name               
Jobs
   Container file where Building Exemplar can be found     Uploaded by          Corrected /
Revisited by
Hong Wang Akamanji Cybernetics
7241
   Hong Wang Akamanji Cybernetics_b32b6876.SC4Lot
Meiji Life Building
2200
   8590_CO$$$_MeijiLifeBuilding_f619a984.SC4LotAPTX
Meiji Life Building
2200
   TTRT_CO$$$_MeijiLifeBuilding_d348d273.SC4LotAPTX
Tour Antarès
1500
   Antarès_56f501d2.SC4LotBlanco_05
Velascoma Associates HQ
26383
   Velacosma Associates HQ_5139b078.SC4Lot2ch.net simplayer  CAM

Quote from: RippleJet on April 02, 2007, 01:41:30 PM
CO$$


Building Exemplar Name               
Jobs
   Container file where Building Exemplar can be found     Uploaded by          Corrected /
Revisited by
Aegon Center
3250
   LM5x7_AegonCenter_Louisville_76615f3b.SC4Lotdarknono35
Blank_CO$$
6798
   Masa_Aioi_d30af387.SC4Lot
Blank_CO$$
37721
   Velacosma Associates CO$$_5139b2df.SC4Lot2ch.net simplayer  CAM
E.ON.U.S Center
1236
   LM4x6_EONUSCenter_Louisville_3664294b.SC4Lotdarknono35
Waterfront Plaza
2874
   LM10x4_WaterFrontPlaza_Louisville_36769cb1.SC4Lotdarknono35
Waterfront Plaza
15230
   LM10x4_WaterFrontPlaza_Louisville_36769cb1.savdarknono35

Quote from: RippleJet on April 02, 2007, 01:41:40 PM
CS$$$


Building Exemplar Name               
Jobs
   Container file where Building Exemplar can be found     Uploaded by          Corrected /
Revisited by
Blank_CS$$$
983
   Acchi_SakuranoDepartmentStore_8fe05891.SC4Lot
白木屋 (Shirokiya Dept. Store)
1400
   8590_CS$$$_Shirokiya_4f826190.SC4LotAPTX

Quote from: RippleJet on April 02, 2007, 01:42:29 PM
I-HT


Building Exemplar Name               
Jobs
   Container file where Building Exemplar can be found     Uploaded by          Corrected /
Revisited by
Integriculture Subterranenan
500
   Integriculture Subterranean_f30aed6a.SC4Lot2ch.net simplayer

Quote from: RippleJet on April 02, 2007, 01:42:39 PM
I-M


Building Exemplar Name               
Jobs
   Container file where Building Exemplar can be found     Uploaded by          Corrected /
Revisited by
PEG-CDK Industrial (IC)
34
   PEG_CDK--IND_205.datPegasus
PEG-CDK Industrial Port
78
   PEG_CDK--IND_205.datPegasus
PEG-CDK Industrial Waterfront
48
   PEG_CDK--IND_205.datPegasus
PEG-CDK Waterfront Warehouse
51
   PEG-CDK_Warehouse-3x4_105.datPegasus


Now, if Masuda さん comes across this, I would ask him to give the complete in-game Japanese name for the Shirokiya Department Store.

If possible, I would also appreciate if anybody would know who made the following bats:

  • Hong Wang Akamanji Cybernetics
  • Masa Aioi
  • Acchi SakuranoDepartmentStore
  • Osaka Marubiru

High5Tower

Thanks for the updates. I have corrected about 60 lots so far using your great how to instructions. Have fixed all of NOB"s lots that I have.
My project now is how to add English names in the queries. I have read the tutorials but have not mastered the method yet. My brain fights learning new tricks.