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Growing Empty Lots and How to Correct them

Started by RippleJet, April 02, 2007, 01:40:14 PM

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SC4BOY

RippleJet.. I'd appreciate it if you would take a look at

this thread

and see if this issue is related to the "empty lots" thing in your opinion

RippleJet

#41
I found no less than 59 53 landmarks by NOB that would grow on empty lots... &mmm
I'll add them into the relevant tables above later on.

However, for everyone using Cleanitol to remove these (and for xxdita to add to his Cleanitol file), I'm listing all SC4Lot files here:

Quote from: NOB Landmarks growing on empty lots
A-Bomb-Dome_ae119dde.SC4Lot
A_Bomb_Dome_6edf08b5.SC4Lot
Dock_01_2f8982c7.SC4Lot
Dock_02_ef942d55.SC4Lot
Dock_03_ef9bfe12.SC4Lot
Dock_04_6f9c02e6.SC4Lot
Dock_05_8f9e8a97.SC4Lot
Dock_06_0fa05a89.SC4Lot
Edo_Apartment_52100679.SC4Lot
Edo_kaisen01_f1dbfe24.SC4Lot
Edo_kaisen02_d1dbfec7.SC4Lot
Edo_kaisen_Left_b1dc0088.SC4Lot
Edo_kaisen_Right_f1dc015a.SC4Lot
Edo_Kanban01_71dc06c2.SC4Lot
Edo_Kanban_Left_31dc05be.SC4Lot
Edo_Kanban_Right_d1dc068f.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiya01_d1dc0367.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiya02_71dc03a3.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiyax2_01_91e107bb.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiyax2_02_d1e106f1.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiyax2_03_31e163e7.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiyax2_Left_f1e10544.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiyax2_Right_11e103c0.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiyax3_01_f1e16029.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiyax3_02_31e15ffd.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiyax3_Left02_d1e16346.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiyax3_Left_51e15f07.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiyax3_Right02_91e16299.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiyax3_Right_d1e1614c.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiya_Left_11dc0430.SC4Lot
Edo_Machiya_Right_91dc0316.SC4Lot
Edo_Nagaya_2x2_L_b205d8db.SC4Lot
Edo_Nagaya_2x2_R_b205e104.SC4Lot
Edo_Nagaya_2x2_S01_b205e77b.SC4Lot
Edo_Nagaya_2x2_S02_11ff9548.SC4Lot
Edo_Nagaya_2x2_S03_b205e592.SC4Lot
Edo_Nagaya_2x2_S04_3205e8e4.SC4Lot
Edo_Nagaya_2x2_S05_d205eb84.SC4Lot
Edo_Nakamura_za_31e8b75f.SC4Lot
fishing-marcket_efe5f922.SC4Lot
FujiwaraTofu-Shop_ee550bd4.SC4Lot
Gojunotou_ceec581e.SC4Lot
Hiroshima_Peace_Park_N_ced8ebe5.SC4Lot
Hiroshima_Peace_Park_South_8edbe5f2.SC4Lot
Hirsohima CityHall_ceae2bb1.SC4Lot
Itsukushima-shrine_6e3be8a1.SC4Lot
LNG_Plant_4f20e934.SC4Lot
Seaport01_6ee5fece.SC4Lot
Seaport02_2ee61c21.SC4Lot
Seaport03_2ee62a4d.SC4Lot
Seaport04_2ee63a70.SC4Lot
Seaport05_cef82ccb.SC4Lot
Yu-ya_b04e08b8.SC4Lot

Happy Hunting! ;)


EDIT:
53, not 59...
I had included some Edo_Suiro lots that are not growing on empty lots...
I hope that didn't lead SC4BOY to remove those park lots... &ops

SC4BOY

Quote from: RippleJet on February 09, 2008, 02:29:37 PM
However, for everyone using Cleanitol to remove these (and for xxdita to add to his Cleanitol file), I'm listing

YAY!! GO XXDITA!!

Quote53, not 59...
I had included some Edo_Suiro lots that are not growing on empty lots...
I hope that didn't lead SC4BOY to remove those park lots... &ops

SC4BOY!? That lazy bum is waiting for the updated cleanitol list.. ;)

RippleJet

I've added all 53 lots by NOB into the tables on the first page, even with the Japanese names visible
(which you won't see unless you've got a Japanese version of the game).


Quote from: SC4BOY on February 09, 2008, 04:26:52 PM
SC4BOY!? That lazy bum is waiting for the updated cleanitol list.. ;)

:D :D

So, now we're just waiting for xxdita to update the list! ::)

SC4BOY

Now I just need a fairie princess to come revise all those lots and release them to the public .. I USE THOSE landmarks! LOL..

xxdita

I will get the Cleanitol updated as soon as I can, no later than Monday, hopefully. I have one little project ahead in queue.  ;D

SC4BOY

Note to all: I have enlisted the support of MAS71 to maybe help in acting as an Ambassador of this activity into the Japanese community. He's an amazing guy, lots of energy and focus, and is respected on the Japanese sites (and speaks Japanese of course.. LOL ) I'm in hopes we can get some of these lots revised to better standards and re-posted..


xxdita

Of course, in the meantime, you could fix them yourself by using RippleJet's instructions at the beginning of this thread, hence the name Growing Empty Lots and How to Correct them  ::)

SC4BOY

#48


My correcting would not help out others much..nor would it help future BAT'ers of all stripes to avoid the issue. Nor would it help bridge the Japanese-English bridge (which I think is approaching a great point in time now). Its the integrity of the lots that I'm interested in.. those are probably used by thousands of users..  Of course I do appreciate your concern for my SC4 enjoyment anyways.. ;)

MAS71

#49
Hi dear my brother Ripplejet san and friends who always giving lot of warm voices for me in my thread  :)
I didn't notice this thread by now.  &mmm
sorry to too late cooperation for them.

Well,
Only about Japanes Lots,
Does problem is "No display Lot's name in UD (and in icons too)" Can I understand it so ??
NOB san and some japanese using only Japanese-LTEXT for LOTs (for names).
so It could not display LOT's name for users whom not have JPN-character in PC.
Is it a cause ??

Ok,
I know well that NOB san having very busy day in RL more than me. ;D
so I will re-make a all LOTs with english name instead with him maybe.  ;)
But, It should need original creater's confirming at last.


What should(would) I do ??   ()what()
Can I help you something ??

If you have any idea or any my helps you think, please tell me then witout reserve  ;)


I hope to be your some helps.  ;D

RippleJet

Quote from: MAS71 on February 10, 2008, 05:29:31 AM
Hi dear my brother Ripplejet san

Brother Masuda san! ()flower()


Quote from: MAS71 on February 10, 2008, 05:29:31 AM
I know well that NOB san having very busy day in RL more than me. ;D
so I will re-make a all LOTs with english name instead with him maybe.  ;)
But, It should need original creater's confirming at last.

What do you think what should(would) I do !?
If you have any idea or any my helps you think, please tell me then witout reserve  ;)

I hope to be your some helps.  ;D

In that case you should use the "X" Tool and recompute the properties of NOB's lots/buildings.
With the "X" Tool you can also make them multilingual, so that English names and descriptions would be shown to everyone not having a Japanese version of the game. :thumbsup:

xxdita

#51
The new Cleanitol is ready.

Edit - OK, NOW it's ready...

RippleJet

Quote from: xxdita on February 10, 2008, 08:32:08 AM
The new Cleanitol is ready.

And now also attached to the first post in this thread! :thumbsup:

Thanks again, xxdita!

SC4BOY

#53
Quote from: xxdita on February 10, 2008, 08:32:08 AM
The new Cleanitol is ready.

Edit - OK, NOW it's ready...

WOOOT! Respite for the lazy! Thanks XX

Waaahh.. 35 NOB lots..  :'(

High5Tower

This list is just getting longer and longer. Last March is when I first became aware of this situation thru RippleJets post about this problem and how to fix them. I slowly learned how to do it and have fixed a few myself but there are just too many and a lot of them are fantastic creations. I hope that somehow with the proper (state of the art) fix it tool that these can someday all be corrected. Thanks for all your great dedication to the game. :thumbsup:

RippleJet

Nexis Electronics Headquaters by mrbisonm has been added to the list of CS§§§ landmarks growing on empty lots.
It has also been added to the Cleanitol list by xxdita, attached to the first post of the thread.

xxdita

I've taken some screenies of the Commercial Empty Growable Lots, along with the Maxis buildings the lots are based upon, to help with idenifying these lots.
















It should also be noted that you can use the ExtraCheats.dll's Buildingplop cheat to check your plugins for any Empty Growables as well. Simply look through the plop list for a Blank_ lot.

RippleJet

You are exceptionally thorough with your reporting, xxdita! :thumbsup:


Quote from: xxdita on February 18, 2008, 05:01:45 AM
It should also be noted that you can use the ExtraCheats.dll's Buildingplop cheat to check your plugins for any Empty Growables as well. Simply look through the plop list for a Blank_ lot.

That is however valid only if the user hasn't changed the Exemplar Name in the original Functional RCI building exemplar by RalphaelNinja.
Most landmarks growing on empty lots have actually been renamed, all in accordance with RalphaelNinja's Method to Change Names on your SC4Lots.

Note however, that the information in that Omnibus tutorial contains broken links and outdated information.
For up-to-date information about naming lots, check Names and descriptions of buildings and props.

RippleJet

The Madison Square Garden by AndisArt was reported to grow on empty lots by BlackStar here:
Massive Invisible Buiding - Construction Begins

All eight versions of the Madison Square Garden grow like that:


Building Exemplar Name
Jobs
   Container file where Building Exemplar can be found
Madison Square Garden
2400
   MSG-Regular-Version_f1b87560.SC4Lot
Madison Square Garden
2400
   MSG-Regular-Version_f1b87560.sav
Madison Square Garden
2400
   MSG-Rolling-Stones_Version_f1b87560.SC4Lot
Madison Square Garden - Confessions Tour Edition - Version 2
2400
   MSG-Confessions-Tour-Edition_v2_f1b87560.SC4Lot
Madison Square Garden - Gay Pride Version
2400
   MSG-Regular-Version_f1b87560.SC4Lot
Madison Square Garden - NBA Draft Edition
2400
   MSG-NBA-Draft-Edition_f1b87560.SC4Lot
Madison Square Garden - Sumo Exhibition Version
2400
   MSG-Sumo-Exhibition-Version_f1b87560.SC4Lot
Madison Square Garden - Wrestlemania XX Edition
2400
   MSG-Wrestlemania-XX-Edition_f1b87560.SC4Lot
Madison Square Garden - Wrestling State-Championship Edition 
2400
   MSG-Wrestling-State-Championship-Edition_f1b87560.SC4Lot

RippleJet

10 landmarks by morhavoc have been added to the lists after Qualm's report here:

havoc donut n drive thro_6d74ca4c.SC4Lot
Havoc_Babychickseggs_4d9f2087.SC4Lot
Havoc_ballmanufacturers3_0dcd0bae.SC4Lot
Havoc_ballmanufacturers.dat
havoc_castleapartments_ed730934.SC4Lot
Havoc_cigarfactor_4d83f2b1.SC4Lot
Havoc_GreengrocersCS$$PLOP_0dcf9024.SC4Lot
Havoc_HQ_6x6_plop_ed9d9bb8.SC4Lot
Havoc_pubCS$$PLOP_6dd2074a.SC4Lot
Havoc_shopsCS$$PLOP_add36010.SC4Lot