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Title: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: TheTeaCat on October 16, 2008, 01:03:26 PM
TheTeaCats Concoctions

Ok been messing around with the LE recently as I find the BAT just a little too
intricate for me. Just too many things but at least I can use it so there is still hope.

As I find the LE easier to work with I thought I'd show some recent stuff I
have done. Who knows some may even get released :)

Any how on with the show

This first pic uses a model by Berto found on the stex.
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Again I used a different model by Berto to create this

North view
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South view
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East view
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West view
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And in this case I used a BAT called Long meadows by Mntoes


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So what do you think? Any hints tips etc appreciated :)

:satisfied:
TheTeaCat
Title: Re: TTC's LE Concoctions
Post by: metasmurf on October 16, 2008, 01:53:49 PM
The space in the first two lots looks a bit meagre. They need to get the cows and tractors in and out, don't they ? :P It would look better if you got rid of either the barn or the grain elevator to make it more airy. Otherwise, very good  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TTC's LE Concoctions
Post by: art128 on October 17, 2008, 08:27:12 AM
Derry , your lots are great  :thumbsup: good work my friend  &apls
Title: Re: TTC's LE Concoctions
Post by: papab2000 on October 17, 2008, 09:11:28 AM
Nice lots. :thumbsup:  I to think that the first one is a little to compact. Maybe use a larger lot or take something out to make more space.  ;)
Title: Re: TTC's LE Concoctions
Post by: Simpson on October 19, 2008, 02:10:30 AM
Really amazing lots, great work  &apls
Title: Re: TTC's LE Concoctions
Post by: TheTeaCat on October 19, 2008, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: metasmurf on October 16, 2008, 01:53:49 PM
The space in the first two lots looks a bit meagre. They need to get the cows and tractors in and out, don't they ? :P It would look better if you got rid of either the barn or the grain elevator to make it more airy. Otherwise, very good  :thumbsup:

Quote from: papab2000 on October 17, 2008, 09:11:28 AM
Nice lots. :thumbsup:  I to think that the first one is a little to compact. Maybe use a larger lot or take something out to make more space.  ;)

May be your right but then I did show only one view ::)

Then again the Chestnut trees by Simfox cover it up a bit which was intended. (I really like those trees :D :D)


Anyway how about some pics from all the angles ;)

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My intention was that the barns on the left acting as a milking shed and the grain elevator as storage.
Maybe a larger lot would be better but I quite like its compactness.

So comments,critique, suggestions all welcome

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: TTC's LE Concoctions
Post by: LP_Green on October 19, 2008, 07:32:25 PM
oh i like it. i espescially like the trees you put in. it's great and very eye-catchy. i also don't find it too compact, it's great as it is at the moment. and finally: that's some good work. :)
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: TheTeaCat on November 08, 2008, 04:42:54 AM
Cheers Folks for your comments :thumbsup:

Ok I made myself another lot last night.
This time I used a model by RP. His Spring Cottage (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/details.cfm?id=13690&v=1)   to be exact.

The props I used come are BSC MEGA Props - CP Vol01
                                                       BSC Mega Props - JMyersAgriculture01
                                                       BSC Textures Vol 01
                                                       SimFoxProps_8Chestnuts
                                                       And standard Maxis props/families.

How about some pics :)
LE shot

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The Tractors , trailers/water carriers and some flora are timed/seasonal to add some life and variety

grows with standard maxis fields:)
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queries work
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So what do you think?
What's missing, too much of? What could I do better?
All constructive criticism, helpful suggestions welcome :)

:satisfied:
TTC

Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: Geronimo on November 08, 2008, 05:03:58 AM
Wow TeaCat, those lots are looking really amazing!   &apls

I cant find much to put a finger on here, only thing is why not put in some people-props and maybe some more "trash" in the yard? (farms around here usually are kind of messy sometimes..  :P  )

Great work on these!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: papab2000 on November 08, 2008, 05:05:00 AM
I like it.  :thumbsup: Maybe you could put a dog and a couple of kids playing by the slide, and a couple of men by the barn/garage. I really like the propane tank back behind the garage. Very realistic.
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: TheTeaCat on November 09, 2008, 10:57:13 AM
Thanks for the kind words and suggestions everyone

Quote from: Geronimo on November 08, 2008, 05:03:58 AM
Wow TeaCat, those lots are looking really amazing!   &apls

I cant find much to put a finger on here, only thing is why not put in some people-props and maybe some more "trash" in the yard? (farms around here usually are kind of messy sometimes..  :P  )

Great work on these!  :thumbsup:

Quote from: papab2000 on November 08, 2008, 05:05:00 AM
I like it.  :thumbsup: Maybe you could put a dog and a couple of kids playing by the slide, and a couple of men by the barn/garage. I really like the propane tank back behind the garage. Very realistic.

Good tip thanks for that - I knew something was missing $%Grinno$%
The slide is part of a maxis prop family so is animated  ;D (that's if it is the one the game picks  ::))

Anybody else see anything that could be improved?

:satisfied:
TTC


Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: Pat on November 09, 2008, 12:05:07 PM
Looking real good there Derry!!!! I like it alot!!!!
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: art128 on November 10, 2008, 09:25:20 AM
Wow ! derry, this lot is awesome !!  &apls
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: Orange_o_ on November 12, 2008, 08:03:50 AM
I like much, but you should spread out, extend, more the farm.

The buildings are side-by-side
:)
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: TheTeaCat on November 12, 2008, 11:22:34 AM
Thanks folks for those nice comments :thumbsup:

I added some people props at points X - Thanks for the suggestion folks :thumbsup: makes all the difference.
You should also note the garden furniture is different ;D

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Quote from: Orange_o_ on November 12, 2008, 08:03:50 AM
I like much, but you should spread out, extend, more the farm.
The buildings are side-by-side

I take it you are talking about point A.

I disagree on this occasion. I was trying to simulate the fact that the buildings were added as needed and therefore
it's a mix and match of whatever the farmer had handy to build some storage space.
I think it gives the impression of a realistic farm.

Keep the suggestions coming folks - They are all noted ;)

btw I have something planned so keep your eyes peeled

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: rooker1 on November 12, 2008, 11:24:59 AM
I think you did a great job on this farm and I wouldn't change anything else.

Robin  &apls
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: Badsim on November 14, 2008, 12:46:52 PM
Great farms Derry , especially this last one  :thumbsup:... I wouldn't change anything about props except that you shouldn't use twice the same group of people  - and I Love Simfox's chestnut trees  , he's also talented for trees ...
My other suggestion is deleted base texture for grassy tiles as everybody now use a terrain Mod . It would fit better . That said and right know , I'm not sure that the dirty paths you're using are overlays or base textures ... ::)

&apls &apls
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: art128 on November 14, 2008, 12:56:35 PM
that lot is awesome Derry  :thumbsup: very great work in all the way !!
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: jacqulina on November 14, 2008, 02:07:35 PM
hiya derry hows you doing,very nice work there &apls
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: Jmouse on November 14, 2008, 02:21:35 PM
So glad you decided to give us a glimpse of your work in progress, Derry. I saw some farms you created in TaTT, and this is a stunning continuation of it. You definitely have a talent for creating rural scenes, and I'm anxious to see for far you take this newest venture.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: High5Tower on November 14, 2008, 02:27:14 PM
Beautiful layouts. Maybe some larger lot sizes since I remember farm life spread out more, after all we are out in the country. My uncle had a 600 cow dairy farm (1957) and I remember how helterskelter the whole layout was and that's what I look for when I see farms in SC4. Thank you for your great farms.
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions- Something new
Post by: TheTeaCat on July 09, 2009, 04:25:57 PM
Well I thought I'd try another farming lot and wondered what you think?
No dependencies required  $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Aside from the model file of CAL's Return to Summerton Mill.

And yes I noticed the tree growing out of the shed but only after I had posted the pic  ::)

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Or should I redo it with props other than maxis?
Shall I put it up for the scrutineers to examine?

All comments, criticism's,suggestions are more than welcome :thumbsup:

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: rooker1 on July 09, 2009, 04:38:43 PM
Derry....
Awesome lot, but double check your rotations and the placement of the trees. ;) Some of them are in the buildings.  Other than that, I love it.

Robin  &apls :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: threestooges on July 09, 2009, 04:45:12 PM
I like the greenhouses you've added in back. Lining them up like that gives a nice appearance of one fluid building. It might be all Maxis, but you make it look good. My only thought would be in regard to the mill wheel. There is no indication that there was ever water flowing through the area, nor any rocks or anything near it to suggest otherwise. Even with the paths around it presently, there's no suggestion a bridge was ever built, vehicle, foot or otherwise. Perhaps some rocks/weeds at the base of the wheel might help with that. Aside from that, I like it.
-Matt
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: Nardo69 on July 09, 2009, 04:49:49 PM
The lot itself is nice. I go with Robin according to that.

However:

The Mill. It's a water mill. There are some left around where I am so I know them rather well. If you put a water mill you need to plop water next to it. Or next to it below ground - that's possible too, saw something like that here in the Black Forest where they kanalized a creek and colse the creek with concrete slabs. Possible - but you will always see the kanal somewhere.

I don't see neither a kanal nor a creek. And a water mill without water is rathe senseless - unless water disappeared because all become desert but in the desert there's no agriculture.

I have a farming lot with kanals in my plugin folder. I never was able to connect it properly to any kanal.

Exchange the mill with another building and most probably I am fine with it ;)

Bernhard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: rooker1 on July 09, 2009, 05:11:31 PM
Bernhard.....there used to be a river there many years ago, but it is now all dried up.  ::) ;)

Robin
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: RippleJet on July 10, 2009, 06:16:09 AM
Quote from: rooker1 on July 09, 2009, 05:11:31 PM
there used to be a river there many years ago, but it is now all dried up.  ::) ;)

I agree with Matt here. It wouldn't hurt if some remains of that river still were visible... a dry river bed and maybe a bridge for the path crossing it, and a pond under the mill wheel.
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: TheTeaCat on July 10, 2009, 10:32:37 AM
Thanks for the really helpful comments. :thumbsup: Glad you like the overall effect ;D

Robin: Yes I noticed the trees after I had posted the pics but that's easily solved but I'm glad you like the overall effect :)

Matt: Thanks for the encouraging and constructive critique. Yes of course there should be some evidence of the creek.
That's something to fix and your tips about rocks, weeds, etc I like that. :thumbsup:

Bernhard: Everything you said makes sense now that I think about it. I shall go back and have a go at sorting it out. :)

Tage: Thanks also for the suggestions. they've given me some ideas.  :)

That was some great advice and constructive criticism.
Now it's back to the LE and see what I can concoct :D :D

Better put the kettle on, think I'll need a cuppa or two ;D

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: Pat on July 10, 2009, 12:31:38 PM
Derry I look forward to seeing what you do now and the revised pics... IMHO I think you should go lex most assuardly!!!
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions advice acted upon
Post by: TheTeaCat on July 10, 2009, 12:31:38 PM
How about version 2 then with some water :D

I'll let the pics do the talking ::) :D

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and using Diggis's replacement mod

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I also need to move and maybe add one or two more props but was wondering what you think of this effort?

All comments, criticism's,suggestions are more than welcome  :thumbsup:

:satisfied:
TTC




Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: Pat on July 10, 2009, 12:39:08 PM
Derry that is wow!!!!
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: threestooges on July 10, 2009, 03:34:26 PM
The mill pond looks nice, though it still looks like the pond/wheel is there for show instead of something that was there as an original building that was then repurposed into a farm, if that makes sense. As a showpiece it looks good though. I'm curious to see how it might look as a dry creek bed with just a few rocks and weeds to suggest the now-dry creek. Either way you go with it, this is some fine lotting Derry.
-Matt
Title: Re: TheTeaCats Concoctions
Post by: rooker1 on July 15, 2009, 09:18:03 AM
Derry I have to agree with Matt, it does look like a show piece now.  The only way I can think of changing it would be to put the house on the left and add the creek in and than rearrande everything else to fit after.  I do like this one alot though.  In the end it's all up to you.  What makes Derry satisfied and happy?

Robin  :thumbsup: