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Offline mgb204

Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #440 on: July 26, 2018, 11:47:56 AM »
Honestly I've absolutely no idea why a bunch of people think it's worthwhile to download the ID ranges assigned to others. But, a quick look back and you'll see this happens to every one I post?!?

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« Reply #440 on: July 26, 2018, 11:47:56 AM »

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Offline evarburg

Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #441 on: July 26, 2018, 09:20:38 PM »
Yes, I noticed.  Will that be a problem for my future uploads if other people have the same ID range  ?

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« Reply #441 on: July 26, 2018, 09:20:38 PM »

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Offline twalsh102

Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #442 on: July 26, 2018, 11:19:51 PM »
I would suggest that there is no bad intent here (although the possibility does exist), but rather various people download the complete listing for the purpose of research / troubleshooting (I have considered doing this myself).

While the issue is much less prevalent today, with some of the earlier downloads, some custom content creators for a number of reasons failed to provide an accurate list of needed dependencies for their creations.  If one has created a "database" of the ID ranges given out and who those ranges belong to, one has a tool to help at least narrow down where to look for what's missing.  However, this is somewhat more difficult if one only has the range itself and not the individual IDs within those ranges.  However, since mgb204 started providing a complete listing of available IDs for each range, the search has become much simpler (if one has his own copy of the "database") as one only needs to insert a Family ID in a search box, and hit search to find who that ID belongs to.

I guess some people figure it's easier/quicker for them to use a search capability they have compiled for their own use (apparently not taking into consideration the time and effort involved in keeping their own "database" up to date), rather than query the keeper of the master "database" about the owner of a particular Family ID, no matter how quickly he is able to respond (maybe this is part of an "I want an answer right this second!" mentality).  To each his own, I guess!

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« Reply #442 on: July 26, 2018, 11:19:51 PM »

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Offline mgb204

Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #443 on: July 27, 2018, 04:31:53 AM »
Yes, I noticed.  Will that be a problem for my future uploads if other people have the same ID range  ?

Nope, you have been assigned the range, if someone else uses your IDs, you have the right to force them to change them. The whole point of ID reservation is to prevent such conflicts, it would be frowned upon if others used your IDs.

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« Reply #443 on: July 27, 2018, 04:31:53 AM »

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Offline evarburg

Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #444 on: July 27, 2018, 09:37:41 AM »
Well, I'm certainly not going to go on the ID Police patrol. I'll just use my ID range and we'll see down the line if there are any problems.

While I have you here :-), a question : I must ask author's permission to use their props. What if they've left the game and are impossible to contact ? (I'm thinking of those whose props I use more often, like D66 or MJB, or SG...)

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« Reply #444 on: July 27, 2018, 09:37:41 AM »

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Offline mgb204

Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #445 on: July 27, 2018, 09:52:44 AM »
You are free to re-use and modify Prop Exemplars as you wish. Provided you don't redistribute the actual models themselves, but instead link to them as dependencies.

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« Reply #445 on: July 27, 2018, 09:52:44 AM »

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Offline jodavis15

Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #446 on: October 01, 2018, 12:14:25 PM »
Could I get a range assignment please?

Thank you, Jo

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Offline mgb204

Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #447 on: October 01, 2018, 01:12:27 PM »
jodavis15's Prop Family ID Range:
0x5F85FC00 --> 0x5F85FCFF

Find a complete ID listing attached (zip file) for reference.

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« Reply #447 on: October 01, 2018, 01:12:27 PM »

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Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #448 on: October 02, 2018, 06:17:12 PM »
Robin I sincerely appreciate you keeping things up and running around here  :thumbsup:

I'm going to go ahead and ask for a range, presumably we're at D00 through DFF now.

Thanks again  :)

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« Reply #448 on: October 02, 2018, 06:17:12 PM »

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Offline mgb204

Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #449 on: October 02, 2018, 07:14:16 PM »
Indiana Joe's Prop Family ID Range:
0x5F85FD00 --> 0x5F85FDFF

Find a complete ID listing attached (zip file) for reference.

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« Reply #449 on: October 02, 2018, 07:14:16 PM »

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Offline Tyberius06

Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #450 on: October 15, 2018, 02:36:32 PM »
Hi!

I'm probably at the wrong place with this, but I didn't want it to be forgotten or overlapped. Could any of you tell me (maybe who has the given prop family range list), that the following prop families are belonging to whoms range?
0x6cc41000
0x6cc41001
0x6cc41004

They showed up as missing dependencies on Aldara6166 - Intermodal Shipping Depot by RJM Designs lot, and giving those numbers are way too organized I assume they belong to prop families. This lot is old, it was made at the end of 2005.

Thanks in advance!

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« Reply #450 on: October 15, 2018, 02:36:32 PM »

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Offline Kitsune

Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #451 on: October 15, 2018, 04:36:44 PM »
Hi!

I'm probably at the wrong place with this, but I didn't want it to be forgotten or overlapped. Could any of you tell me (maybe who has the given prop family range list), that the following prop families are belonging to whoms range?
0x6cc41000
0x6cc41001
0x6cc41004

They showed up as missing dependencies on Aldara6166 - Intermodal Shipping Depot by RJM Designs lot, and giving those numbers are way too organized I assume they belong to prop families. This lot is old, it was made at the end of 2005.

Thanks in advance!

- Tyberius

Such a weird range as it does not start with a 5. If you go by the old index at simtrop - https://community.simtropolis.com/forums/topic/13510-bsc-prop-family-index/ ... its likely that one was never indexed and/or the user picked it out of thin air.. which is always possible too when a file is that old.

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« Reply #451 on: October 15, 2018, 04:36:44 PM »

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Offline lazaroumonkeyterror

Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #452 on: November 07, 2018, 03:16:27 PM »
Hello, I've been modding for years but now only getting round to setting up Prop Families.
Can I get a range please?

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« Reply #452 on: November 07, 2018, 03:16:27 PM »

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Online CT14

Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #453 on: November 08, 2018, 08:51:11 AM »

0x6cc41000
0x6cc41001
0x6cc41004

Such a weird range as it does not start with a 5.

These look like Cohort file IIDs, which are made by adding 1 to the first character of the prop family IID. So the prop families would be 0x5cc41000, 0x5cc41001 and 0x5cc41004 if this is what's going on. And the error would relate simply to missing cohort files (containing prop family names to show in Lot Editor).

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« Reply #453 on: November 08, 2018, 08:51:11 AM »

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Offline mgb204

Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #454 on: November 10, 2018, 09:36:14 AM »
Lazaroumonkeyterror's Prop Family ID Range:
0x5F85FE00 --> 0x5F85FEFF


Please note, due to the insane number of people downloading the Prop Family attachments, I will no longer be making them publicly available. You might argue there are legitimate reasons for 200+ members to download such a listing, but that's poppycock! If you just wanted to know the range, all that information is provided in the two line response. I don't know what people are doing with them, but I am going to put a stop to it.

Instead from now on, I'll be sending a separate PM to those applying for ranges, with a non-public link to said file on Google Drive. So thanks to all those people for the extra work, when all I was trying to do, was to provide something that made understanding the ID allocation easier.

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Re: BSC Prop Family Index
« Reply #454 on: November 10, 2018, 09:36:14 AM »

 


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