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Marrast M-TEL lots: how to use?

Started by tomvsotis, August 29, 2017, 12:36:08 PM

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tomvsotis

A weirdly specific and perhaps somewhat obscure question, but here goes...

Does anyone know how to use Marrast's M-TEL lots properly? Specifically, does anyone know how to get them to align to slopes?

In the (tiny) picture from the readme, the lot rises nicely up a slope:


But whenever I try to plop it, it refuses to do anything of the sort:


Marrast is obv long gone; is there anyone around these days who still uses these, and if so, can you tell me how to get them to work? It's kinda driving me nuts

eggman121

Marrast's M-TEL Lots only like flat surfaces.

So I would start with a flat surface and dig in the middle.

I think the preview arrow has to point outwards as well.

-eggman121

tomvsotis

hmmm, ok. i'll see how that goes. so you reckon the upward slope in the preview pic is a property of the lot itself...?

woodb3kmaster

There is no upward slope on the lot; the avenue slopes down toward the tunnel entrance.  The M-TEL lots are designed to be plopped on the slopes next to this ramp, so that they hide the slopes.

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tomvsotis

Quote from: woodb3kmaster on August 29, 2017, 04:15:51 PM
There is no upward slope on the lot; the avenue slopes down toward the tunnel entrance.  The M-TEL lots are designed to be plopped on the slopes next to this ramp, so that they hide the slopes.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i see what you mean!!! sorry, it all makes sense now. it's super hard to tell from that tiny picture. i figured the avenue was flat and the lots were sloping up :-/

thanks both for your help!

woodb3kmaster

No problem; it's hard to tell which way anything slopes in SC4 screenshots, so your misunderstanding is perfectly reasonable. Have fun with the lots!

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brick_mortimer

Quote from: eggman121 on August 29, 2017, 02:04:10 PM
Marrast's M-TEL Lots only like flat surfaces.

So I would start with a flat surface and dig in the middle.

I think the preview arrow has to point outwards as well.

-eggman121

So, if I understand correctly, you place the M-TEL lots first and than dig for the tunnel?
And I can place pultiple M-TEL lots in line if I want a longer approach for my tunnel?

I tried using them in the past, but gave up because I coulnd't get them to work and they weren't 'essential' in the city I was building.

@tomvsotis: thanks for asking!
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matias93

Quote from: brick_mortimer on August 30, 2017, 04:00:51 AM
Quote from: eggman121 on August 29, 2017, 02:04:10 PM
Marrast's M-TEL Lots only like flat surfaces.

So I would start with a flat surface and dig in the middle.

I think the preview arrow has to point outwards as well.

-eggman121

So, if I understand correctly, you place the M-TEL lots first and than dig for the tunnel?
And I can place pultiple M-TEL lots in line if I want a longer approach for my tunnel?

I tried using them in the past, but gave up because I coulnd't get them to work and they weren't 'essential' in the city I was building.

@tomvsotis: thanks for asking!

You cannot put them in line because they are transit enabled lots, they cannot transfer traffic from themselves to another lot directly; they need a compatible network going between them.
I tried it too, and it didn't work.

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woodb3kmaster

Quote from: brick_mortimer on August 30, 2017, 04:00:51 AM
So, if I understand correctly, you place the M-TEL lots first and than dig for the tunnel?
And I can place pultiple M-TEL lots in line if I want a longer approach for my tunnel?

No, that method would destroy the M-TEL lots. You'd have to dig the tunnel approach first, then plop the M-TEL lots on top of the slopes next to it. matias93 is also correct; because M-TELs are transit-enabled lots, they can't be plopped in line without at least one cell between them.

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brick_mortimer

Ok, I see.
I don't remember exactly what I tried in the past, but I don't think I've tried putting them on the 'sloped' / diagonal part of the slope
(what a sentence  :))

Too bad you can't link them because 13 tiles (210m) is pretty short if you want to descend 15m.
Although I can imagine such steep slopes in an inner-city environment with limited space.

Thanks for the help, I'll start experimenting tonight :thumbsup:
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